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DarkLordMelkor

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Hello peeps!

I decided to grow my own girls and this is gonna be outdoor soil (ground) grow. I know it is better to wait 2 more months to catch good summer weather and grow them but to be honest I can't wait lol. I found a good place to put seeds and grow them. Safe and open area for direct sunlight all day long. But there is a problem! It is winter time here! Snow never comes here but it is a little bit cold now (at least this week).

February weather forecast like 9-14Celcius (days) - 2-8Celcius (nights). Some days rainy, some days cloudly, some days sunny. March also like February. Then April is much better like 10+ Celcius night times.

And 11 hours 20 minutes to 11 hours 30 minutes daylight in February.

Frost rarely comes here. Altitude: 2 meters.

I know you guys going to ask about strain but i have no good answer for this. I have collected 40 different seeds from 40 different weeds i smoked. So there is a lot of genetics.

Is it possible to grow marijuana plants in this conditions?

Thanks.
 
too larry

too larry

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The light hours is going to impact you more than the cold, but yes cold weather does slow growth down a lot.

If you put sexually mature plants {4-6 weeks} out now, they will flower. You can run lights for two hours at midnight to trick them into thinking it's summer. Right now is an in between period. We have all got spring fever and planted too soon. We've all said we wouldn't do it again. Yet many of us have continued to do it.

What you should have done is vegged up a few indoors and put them out in January. They don't give a big return, but it is fun growing in the winter if your local weather allows it.
 
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DarkLordMelkor

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too larry said:
The light hours is going to impact you more than the cold, but yes cold weather does slow growth down a lot.

If you put sexually mature plants {4-6 weeks} out now, they will flower. You can run lights for two hours at midnight to trick them into thinking it's summer. Right now is an in between period. We have all got spring fever and planted too soon. We've all said we wouldn't do it again. Yet many of us have continued to do it.

What you should have done is vegged up a few indoors and put them out in January. They don't give a big return, but it is fun growing in the winter if your local weather allows it.
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Thanks for answer but it is not possible for me to veg them indoors. Because location is too far away. It is 100% risky.
What do you mean with light hours is going to impact me more than cold? I mean, i realize that plants will be smaller and yield will be less. I am not expecting kilos. Seeds are not feminized and I am expecting minimum 15 females from 40 seeds. If i can get 2 kilograms dry from 15-20 females, i will be happy. That's enough amount of weed for my yearly stock.
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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DarkLordMelkor said:
Thanks for answer but it is not possible for me to veg them indoors. Because location is too far away. It is 100% risky.
What do you mean with light hours is going to impact me more than cold? I mean, i realize that plants will be smaller and yield will be less. I am not expecting kilos. Seeds are not feminized and I am expecting minimum 15 females from 40 seeds. If i can get 2 kilograms dry from 15-20 females, i will be happy. That's enough amount of weed for my yearly stock.
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Plants need a certain amount of light to stay in veg. You risk them going into flower then revegging then going back into flower when you put them out this soon.
You can start them from seed earlier if you add supplemental lighting (which in your case doesnt sound like you can)
Or start them from seed later then now so that when they are sexually mature, daylight hours will be longer.
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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P.s. that is why most who start their plants indoors dont usually plant them outside until late may or early june. That is when the outdoor light is long enough to keep them in veg.
 
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DarkLordMelkor

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ganga gurl420 said:
Plants need a certain amount of light to stay in veg. You risk them going into flower then revegging then going back into flower when you put them out this soon.
You can start them from seed earlier if you add supplemental lighting (which in your case doesnt sound like you can)
Or start them from seed later then now so that when they are sexually mature, daylight hours will be longer.
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Well, i did check sunlight times where i am living at.

13 hours 30 minutes in April,
15 hours in May,
16 Hours in Jun,
15 hours in July,
13 hours 30 minutes in Augst,
12 hours 20 minutes in September,
11 hours 10 minutes in October.

That's average sunlight times. As you know it's keeps changing day by day.

So if i start at April, i will able to harvest them end of October or mid of November. That's total 7-8 months. Isn't that a bit long? More than half year.

I am really confused lol.

Edit: Btw that's gonna be my first weed grow. So no experience. I am trying to realize things.
 
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ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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DarkLordMelkor said:
Well, i did check sunlight times where i am living at.

13 hours 30 minutes in April,
15 hours in May,
16 Hours in Jun,
15 hours in July,
13 hours 30 minutes in Augst,
12 hours 20 minutes in September,
11 hours 10 minutes in October.

That's average sunlight times. As you know it's keeps changing day by day.

So if i start at April, i will able to harvest them end of October or mid of November. That's total 7-8 months. Isn't that a bit long? More than half year.

I am really confused lol.

Edit: Btw that's gonna be my first weed grow. So no experience. I am trying to realize things.
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Harvest times depend on the strain. Some are early and get done end of Sept. Average for indices is roughly around mid oct....and sativas can go as long as December. Yes it takes that long.
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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Okay so since you are confused ... I will try to put it simply. As the plant senses the amount of darkness it triggers the hormones that tell it that its fall time and time to produce buds (that is why you need at least 15 hours of daylight to prevent budding)

However the plant has to be sexually mature for the hormone change to happen (usually around 4 to 6 weeks old)

That is why if you plant now with very little light out ... it will start to bud, but by may it will sense the days getting longer and it will actually go back into veg and stay that way until fall. It's very hard on an outdoor plant to do that outdoors and still get a good yield because all of its energy is being focused on that instead of growing.

This site is full of Amazing growers... I'd start reading in the outdoor section and learn everything you can get your hands on.

Are you planning on adding good soil or just planting right in the ground?
 
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DarkLordMelkor

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ganga gurl420 said:
Okay so since you are confused ... I will try to put it simply. As the plant senses the amount of darkness it triggers the hormones that tell it that its fall time and time to produce buds (that is why you need at least 15 hours of daylight to prevent budding)

However the plant has to be sexually mature for the hormone change to happen (usually around 4 to 6 weeks old)

That is why if you plant now with very little light out ... it will start to bud, but by may it will sense the days getting longer and it will actually go back into veg and stay that way until fall. It's very hard on an outdoor plant to do that outdoors and still get a good yield because all of its energy is being focused on that instead of growing.

This site is full of Amazing growers... I'd start reading in the outdoor section and learn everything you can get your hands on.

Are you planning on adding good soil or just planting right in the ground?
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Thanks for reply.
Right in the ground. No nutrients, no torf soil or anything. Full organic lol.
I already read tons of things about outdoor growing but there is a lot of inconsistency.
Some experienced growers says; you can grow it if you have good weather conditions. Light is important but if you don't planning to get best yields like 500 grams to 1 kilos for per plant, you can grow them whenever you want. But some experienced growers says; no, this is wasting your time. It won't grow if you put them under this light conditions. That's what makes me confused.

I think best outdoor time for my country is like first weeks of May (14 hours 40 minutes daylight). Jun (16 hours of daylight) and July (15 hours daylight) good for vegative stage. Then Augst (13 hours 30 minutes daylight), September (12 hours 30 minutes daylight), October (11 hours 20 minutes daylight) good choice for flowering stage. But it is still takes 6 months. Yeah yields would roll my eyes but reason of asking about this months is i would be happy to get less yield but still get some weed lol.

But yeah, forcing them between veg and flowering stages would hurt them.

I think i should try or wait lol. Still confused.
 
ganga gurl420

ganga gurl420

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DarkLordMelkor said:
Thanks for reply.
Right in the ground. No nutrients, no torf soil or anything. Full organic lol.
I already read tons of things about outdoor growing but there is a lot of inconsistency.
Some experienced growers says; you can grow it if you have good weather conditions. Light is important but if you don't planning to get best yields like 500 grams to 1 kilos for per plant, you can grow them whenever you want. But some experienced growers says; no, this is wasting your time. It won't grow if you put them under this light conditions. That's what makes me confused.

I think best outdoor time for my country is like first weeks of May (14 hours 40 minutes daylight). Jun (16 hours of daylight) and July (15 hours daylight) good for vegative stage. Then Augst (13 hours 30 minutes daylight), September (12 hours 30 minutes daylight), October (11 hours 20 minutes daylight) good choice for flowering stage. But it is still takes 6 months. Yeah yields would roll my eyes but reason of asking about this months is i would be happy to get less yield but still get some weed lol.

But yeah, forcing them between veg and flowering stages would hurt them.

I think i should try or wait lol. Still confused.
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There are many grows I see in here deep in the woods... it can be done. That isnt the problem as long as they get some direct light or they wont much to anything at all.
However ....just sticking them in the ground with no nutes or better soil... eeek.... I wouldn't hold your breath. I've seen some that do an oz plus and I've seen them where they only get a few grams a plant. Marijuana requires a lot of nutrients.... that is why so many people spend the amount of money they do on their grows.
Since this is your first time you will learn a lot I hope anyways.
Only thing I can suggest is dont start them too early and just let them go... if you do have good natural fertil soil they can easily snap because they can get soo tall. Good luck to you.
 
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DarkLordMelkor

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ganga gurl420 said:
There are many grows I see in here deep in the woods... it can be done. That isnt the problem as long as they get some direct light or they wont much to anything at all.
However ....just sticking them in the ground with no nutes or better soil... eeek.... I wouldn't hold your breath. I've seen some that do an oz plus and I've seen them where they only get a few grams a plant. Marijuana requires a lot of nutrients.... that is why so many people spend the amount of money they do on their grows.
Since this is your first time you will learn a lot I hope anyways.
Only thing I can suggest is dont start them too early and just let them go... if you do have good natural fertil soil they can easily snap because they can get soo tall. Good luck to you.
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Thanks for all the effort you spent to illuminate me.

I did some calculations for last 3 hours and decided to start like end of April. If my calculations are right and girls starts flowering stage at 11 hours of night time (and increased day by day), it is gonna be 140 days of vegetative stage and 74 days (2 weeks before rainy weathers come) of flowering stage would be enough to make me satisfied.

Actually i can use chicken fertilizer. As you know it is really strong fertilizer. I know if you overdose it will instantly burn plants but i have experience about chicken fertilizer for long time, no worries.

But it is still long time than i thought. Gonna be long way to beat!

Good luck for everyone!
 
too larry

too larry

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DarkLordMelkor said:
Thanks for answer but it is not possible for me to veg them indoors. Because location is too far away. It is 100% risky.
What do you mean with light hours is going to impact me more than cold? I mean, i realize that plants will be smaller and yield will be less. I am not expecting kilos. Seeds are not feminized and I am expecting minimum 15 females from 40 seeds. If i can get 2 kilograms dry from 15-20 females, i will be happy. That's enough amount of weed for my yearly stock.
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The length of the dark period is what triggers the plants to flower. If you go outdoors now, the plants will flower as soon as they reach sexual maturity, usually 4-6 weeks old. One way to keep them in veg is to run a light for two hours at midnight. This is called the gas lantern routine. It breaks the dark period into two shorter periods and fools the plants into thinking it's summertime.

If you are in the bush and unable to use lights at night, you will just have to wait or deal with early flower. When I plant in March, most will early flower just enough for you to cull the males before they reveg. This kind of early flower doesn't hurt too much, but if you are planning to grow full season plants, it's best to wait. When a plant is full on flowering for a few weeks, then revegs, it is not good.
 
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DarkLordMelkor

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too larry said:
The length of the dark period is what triggers the plants to flower. If you go outdoors now, the plants will flower as soon as they reach sexual maturity, usually 4-6 weeks old. One way to keep them in veg is to run a light for two hours at midnight. This is called the gas lantern routine. It breaks the dark period into two shorter periods and fools the plants into thinking it's summertime.

If you are in the bush and unable to use lights at night, you will just have to wait or deal with early flower. When I plant in March, most will early flower just enough for you to cull the males before they reveg. This kind of early flower doesn't hurt too much, but if you are planning to grow full season plants, it's best to wait. When a plant is full on flowering for a few weeks, then revegs, it is not good.
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Thanks for reply.
Yeah i am going to wait. No need to risk my labor and time. Better to wait until end of April and get warmer weather conditions then more sunlight and full season grow. Gonna be long but i am sure it's worths.
 
too larry

too larry

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DarkLordMelkor said:
Thanks for reply.
Yeah i am going to wait. No need to risk my labor and time. Better to wait until end of April and get warmer weather conditions then more sunlight and full season grow. Gonna be long but i am sure it's worths.
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Next winter try a spring crop. Start your seeds in December. The longer you can keep them in veg, the better for yield. But I've found you need to get them out by the end of January if you want them to finish before they re-veg. Yield is small when you don't veg with lights, but seeds are free and soil is cheap. Most cops and rippers don't think about growing in winter, so I feel safer about my spring crop than any other.
 
Corso312

Corso312

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DarkLordMelkor said:
Well, i did check sunlight times where i am living at.

13 hours 30 minutes in April,
15 hours in May,
16 Hours in Jun,
15 hours in July,
13 hours 30 minutes in Augst,
12 hours 20 minutes in September,
11 hours 10 minutes in October.

That's average sunlight times. As you know it's keeps changing day by day.

So if i start at April, i will able to harvest them end of October or mid of November. That's total 7-8 months. Isn't that a bit long? More than half year.

I am really confused lol.

Edit: Btw that's gonna be my first weed grow. So no experience. I am trying to realize things.
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Don't look at sunrise- sunset times, what state do you live in? North, South or Central part of the state?
 
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DarkLordMelkor

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Corso312 said:
Don't look at sunrise- sunset times, what state do you live in? North, South or Central part of the state?
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Oh you mean part of state. Well, south part of the state. Now weather is like 20-22 degree (celcius) day times and 10 degree (celcius) night times. Very very warm weather conditions between March and end of November. Don't have any issues about weather now but now i have problem with sunlight times.
 
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