Absolutely no high

Severed Tongue

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Nutrition, growing medium, additives have zero to do with genetics, which is what the flowers potency comes from.

Nutrition is food that keeps your plant alive, and is its only purpose, th

Plants are not livestock, are not athletes on a diet, are not mammals.

I wonder how they grew potent dank 2500 years ago without all these things.....
 

drsaltzman

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I think you got some good advice here.
See what others think of the high, go easy on the nutes, find your light’s sweet spot. Try a different seed bank. All good advice. There’s no fix all.
Light, nutrients, genetics all play a role.
The dried buds look light on trichomes to me.

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Cynister

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Lots of good information offered here, don't be too quick to challenge or dismiss it. Visually, it looks like it's been harvested too early, but that's just my opinion. I use little to no nutes and breeders times rarely are correct for all conditions from what I've seen. Marketing? Probably, yeah.

Next time let some of your grow go longer and see the results. The information you receive from that alone is worth more than 5 pages of opinions being challenged and denied. Keep it simple, keep an open mind and good luck.
 

jimihendrix1

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Forget Barneys Farm. IMHO they went to crap years ago, especially when they went to all feminized seeds, and then started selling regulars again. JUNK.

Ive got a 10+ year old cut of their original G13 x Haze, and tried both their fem G13 x Haze, and their new version. Both were crap, and didnt resemble the original line. The fems were super crap. Barneys used to be a great company. I used to highly recommend them, but not anymore.

Also as far as bloom boosters like Monopotassium Phosphate, in an 8 weeks flowering strain, they should only be used from around 2.5-3 weeks after flip until week 4. Then they should be stopped. Bloom Boosters as supposed to enhance bud set. After that its useless.
Also Im not familiar with your nutrients, but if youre cutting out, or reducing Nitrogen, thats also a mistake. They need ever increasing amounts of all nutrients from seedling- flowering.
Also for an 8 weeks strain you need to cut back on all fertilizers starting in weeks 7 and 8.
Epsom Salts is also another vital nutrient, especially in weeks 5-6. Though its needed throught all stages of development. Epsom salts contains Sulfur, which is supposed to be a stimulant for Terpene production.
For chemical fertilizer, I use Calcium Nitrate/15.5-0-0 as my Nitrogen, and Calcium source, and use Epsom Salts for my Magnesium/Sulfur source. I dont use cal/mag.

Also forget the amino acid supplementation. If they get nitrogen they are getting amino acids. Nitrogen to a plant, is like Protein to a human. Protein is made up of 8-9 essential amino acids if its a complete protein.

. For a killer Sativa look into Sannies Killing Fields F6

Its not for light weights, and is a huge producer. Stretches like a mofo after flip, and doesnt require a long veg time because of the stretch.
It also finishes when the breeder says it does. 10-11 weeks. This breeder is also in Europe.
Id use 5 gallon containers minimum.

Also just keep it simple. Give them a good base nutrient. Maybe give them a bloom booster in weeks 3-4, and just let them grow. Forget all the fancy stuff. Its just a scam to get your money.
Also do not flush plants.

Buy Feminized Regular & Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds ...
 

Killaki

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Screw it, I'll throw my 2¢ in.
I think your genetics are a real possible factor. I've grown bag seed from shit that smoked good but I had no idea of strain or source and I've always copped a buzz. I've grown seeds from bunk shit and it totally grew bunk buds.
I think it's also possible that you chopped a little early and this effected potential potency. That said, I've had to harvest early because of a number of factors before and have always copped a buzz, with a good strain of course.
I think overdosing you plants could*possibly effect your potency because anything outside the most ideal conditions your setup can mimic can impact potency. I can't really speak to this because I've always believed in a light hand with nutrients and I've found decent success with that so I don't change that. I tend to focus more on initial medium these days than what I add later. Works for me.
I also think it's possible you have compounding factors. If you have sub-par genetics and your grow struggled or stunted or had any noticable problems at all, and chopped earlier than the plant had actually matured you may in fact have not that great if end product.
I suggest you make some changes because obviously keeping at the same thing and getting similar results is pretty redundant.
Good luck.
**Edit: since I didn't see what your plants looked like alive, I'd like to note that Nitrogen toxicity can totally zap your buds of potency.
 

psixerpsx

Active Member
GL on your grows … try different breeders and strains. I’m sure there are some that will get you faded.
‘Maybe some classic like Durban poison , Critical Jack , OG Kush , etc.
i now have 3 og kush from Blimburn Seeds and Shogun from Royal Queen Seeds so i am really looking forward if it is me or just shitty barneys genetics
Snip some samples as it matures?
i ve had from other plant of same strain because of mold on top it was nice smoke but no big high i thought it needed a few weeks more so i let it until three days ago chopped at week 12 now it is drying i am looking forward to see if only this one plant was total shit or all three i have from these strain
The only way any of this makes any sense is if the OP @psixerpsx is ingesting improperly prepared product instead of smoking it?
i am smoking like 0,3g bowl
 

CaliVerner420

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i tried almost every new strain from barneys most were really similiar to this harvest i think that these nutrients are not so good for buds quality just quantity

Dark bathroom for 6 or 7 days was dry enough after that now 3rd day in glass jar
That's a fast dry
 

Lenin1917

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Overfed, early harvest, dried to quickly in suboptimal conditions. Switch to soil and dry amendments or coco and base nutrients. Wait till they’re actually ready to harvest, calyxes swollen up on pistils and trichomes cloudy to amber. Then dry it properly, cool dark room 50-60%rh 60-70f (15-20celsius) hang the whole plant, leave it for 2-3 weeks

you only get out what you put in. If you cut corners and rush things you’ll only ever grow mediocre weed.
 

Killaki

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I really hope the op doesn't try to make all these changes at once because this thread is kind of all over the place. :lol:
 
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