ACInfinity Cloudline T4 & 4" Carbon Filter

V256.420

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You have the prefilter outside rather than inside the filter. This only works properly of the filter is in the tent and you're pulling air through it ... it's useless when you're pushing air through it. To protect the activated carbon from clogging, you need to put the prefilter INSIDE the filter in this configuration.
I understand what you are saying but I don't even need the pre-filter on it at all. I keep the pre-filter on so the carbon dust doesn't blow out and make a mess on my floor.

There is no dust coming inside my tent so no dust gets caught on the inside of the filter.
 

Doug Dawson

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I understand what you are saying but I don't even need the pre-filter on it at all. I keep the pre-filter on so the carbon dust doesn't blow out and make a mess on my floor.

There is no dust coming inside my tent so no dust gets caught on the inside of the filter.
Hey, I am just curious about this as I have a T4 coming Monday. So you pull air from your tent and push it out the carbon filter, what do you filter that air with on the tent side? When I look at the prefilter on my existing carbon filter it gets pretty gummed up over time. Are you not concerned about sending not filtered air through the fan? Would it not gum up over time like the pre filter does? At present I pull air through my filter so it is clean air that passes through my fan but if the other way around it is contaminated air being pulled through fan and I would worry about it gumming up the works.
 

V256.420

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Hey, I am just curious about this as I have a T4 coming Monday. So you pull air from your tent and push it out the carbon filter, what do you filter that air with on the tent side? When I look at the prefilter on my existing carbon filter it gets pretty gummed up over time. Are you not concerned about sending not filtered air through the fan? Would it not gum up over time like the pre filter does? At present I pull air through my filter so it is clean air that passes through my fan but if the other way around it is contaminated air being pulled through fan and I would worry about it gumming up the works.
The air coming inside the tent comes thru two short pieces of 6" black duct covered with a screen. My rooms are also spotless and 90% of the air coming into the grow room is filtered as well. Dust is not a problem for me. Not for a very long time anyways :blsmoke:
 

Doug Dawson

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The air coming inside the tent comes thru two short pieces of 6" black duct covered with a screen. My rooms are also spotless and 90% of the air coming into the grow room is filtered as well. Dust is not a problem for me. Not for a very long time anyways :blsmoke:
It's not the dust I worry about. When we smell something it is actual particles of that thing called odorants so when we smell our plants it is tiny particles off the plants, that's what gums up the pre filter over time. Not a big deal, just thinking over time these particles would stick to internal parts and gum up the works. Any kind of filter on the intake would fix the issue like pantyhose over intake I would think. Thanks for the reply.
 

Doug Dawson

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I change my filters every 12 to 14 months anyway.

My grow place never smells. Ever. Nice and clean :eyesmoke:
HMMM, it's not the filter I am thinking of, it's the fan unit itself. My grow space really starts to smell in flower. Not outside the tent but when I open it to feed I get a beautiful smell when the plants are flowering. No amount of cleaning the room will stop my flowers from smelling like flowers, that's why I use a carbon filter. I am happy with my carbon filter hung in my tent but many push the air out instead, just trying to logically examine what long term effect that would have on the fan unit. Don't care about the filters, they are a consumable.
 

V256.420

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Some of my Panasonics have been in use for over 10 years. They don't smell. My newer 440 cfm ones are only 3 years old and they also do not smell. Those are for flower only too. I can literally take the fan off the top of the filter, bring the fan in another area, and turn it back on with zero smell.

They never turn off. For years. No smell.

The only time one of my Panasonics filled with dust was when I first started growing and used a room that had unfiltered air coming in to it. It took a long time tho. It went thru 2 filter replacements before I noticed a dust build up inside the fan and filter. Then I started filtering the incoming air for the whole grow area and the air entering the tent. Since then it stays pretty clean. Not 100% but not bad either :blsmoke:
 

ComfortCreator

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The units aren't expensive enough to matter imo. If after a few years you need to replace the guts of a t4 or t6, no biggie. Same for the filters. They are currently about $40 to $80 depending upon the brand, and last several grows. Prefilters are not that helpful for the usual purpose but do help keep the carbon in the units.
 

Doug Dawson

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The units aren't expensive enough to matter imo. If after a few years you need to replace the guts of a t4 or t6, no biggie. Same for the filters. They are currently about $40 to $80 depending upon the brand, and last several grows. Prefilters are not that helpful for the usual purpose but do help keep the carbon in the units.
It depends, the T6 units are very expensive in Canada, not so much in the USA. Glad to know it doesn't effect them much running this way thought. My T4 with controller arrived an hour ago, it's a good day.
 

ilovereggae

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I just throw my fan on top of the filter outside the tent. Simple and ez :blsmoke:
this ^^^. wish someone suggested to me years ago. saw someone setup and tried it and never going back. saves so much space inside the tent, the fan seems to run dead silent since its not vibrating on anything, and I can't smell a thing.
 

TimBar

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Oh you want what it don't have...always one of those. I don't need to waste the energy if my humidity and temp are in range.
 

JoeBlow5823

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Oh you want what it don't have...always one of those. I don't need to waste the energy if my humidity and temp are in range.
Fans dont use shit for energy. My main fan that runs 24/7 is set to 150w when the 1000w is on which is only a few months out of the year. Thats only 50% more than what the average light bulb used 20 years ago. Costs like 15 bucks a month. Plants like constant fresh air. But that was my whole point. When lights are off, fan could be running on maybe 20-30 watts so they have just enough air movement. Lights on, 150w.
 

TimBar

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I stopped using HPS so I do not generate much heat. If I was using a 1000w lamp sure I would need to keep it cool.
When I was using HPS I had my can-fan on 25/7
 

NukaKola

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HMMM, it's not the filter I am thinking of, it's the fan unit itself. My grow space really starts to smell in flower. Not outside the tent but when I open it to feed I get a beautiful smell when the plants are flowering. No amount of cleaning the room will stop my flowers from smelling like flowers, that's why I use a carbon filter. I am happy with my carbon filter hung in my tent but many push the air out instead, just trying to logically examine what long term effect that would have on the fan unit. Don't care about the filters, they are a consumable.
Put a dust Shroom filter on the inlet side of your exhaust ducting. That way you can have the fan and bulky carbon filter placed outside the tent. This will filter the air before it hits your fan. The main thing I like about this setup besides all the space you save inside the tent is that if you ever had a pest or PM outbreak in the tent, you won’t be exhausting spores or bugs into the rest of your house.
 

Green Refuge

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I just installed a 6" version attached fan and filter with heavy duty duck tape sealed perfectly. My only grips with this AC setup is they provide the worst tubing possible for air transfer. The rough interor of the tube restrics airflow and it takes up a good chunk of the diameter of the tube. Some kinda smooth interior tubing like the semi ridged ones used on dryers would've been better option. Next time I'm buying tube elsewhere.
 

JoeBlow5823

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I just installed a 6" version attached fan and filter with heavy duty duck tape sealed perfectly. My only grips with this AC setup is they provide the worst tubing possible for air transfer. The rough interor of the tube restrics airflow and it takes up a good chunk of the diameter of the tube. Some kinda smooth interior tubing like the semi ridged ones used on dryers would've been better option.
Please use some screws or something to connect the filter and fan. That duct tape fails mid flower and cooks your tent your going to be unhappy to say the least.
 

Green Refuge

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Please use some screws or something to connect the filter and fan. That duct tape fails mid flower and cooks your tent your going to be unhappy to say the least.
I have it hanging on straps but I guess there's no harm in adding a couple screws for added security. I would've used tubing to connect filter to fan but like I said above their tubing sucks.
 
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