aero/fogponics/dwc. need answers please.

dripdrew

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Ok ive tried a few things before and never had a full grow so before i go buying anythn expensive i figured id try one then clone. So i have a 5 gallon bucket with a netpot that covers the bucket i put cardboard around the top to raise the net 6 inches. I got a small pump to keep nut. Circulation. I have a floating fogger running nonstop. A airstone in the bottom running nonstop. And a waterpump w a 3 foot hose w 10 sprayers wrapped around the inside that goes on 15 off 15. I want the most yeild thats possible and im using liquid karma, sweet berry, hygrozyme, and a 2 part pureblend. Water is about two gallons. Let me kno your ideas or where im going to go wrong im using a 120 watt halogen bulb they say is equivelant to a 100 watt mh.
 

cruzer101

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Sounds like you got all the ammo but are you shootin in the dark?

What is the amount you are feeding. You need a TDS meter.
What is the ph of the water, will the plants be able to use the nutrients.

The halogen bulb has to go. If you can only afford one light get HPS.
For vegging a couple 26 watt CFL's work fine. Get daylight or 6500k
To flower you want at least a 250 watt HPS (High pressure sodium) Grow lamp.
 

captain insaneo

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i use a fogger with a float and an air stone in my cloner. i use a drip on the moms and clones then i use ebb and flow for flowering. There are other questions as where you want to grow, how many you want to grow, what method you want to use (lst sog scrog.....) and the fogger is good at making roots but once they hit the res water it is useless. with the shit you say you have i would read rosmans bubbleponic tutorial https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/234626-rosemans-diy-bubbleponics-tutorial.html or just do an easy dwc. relax and dont worry they call it weed for a reason.
 

dripdrew

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Well i actually switched it up i took the fogger out so its just my aeroponic spryers 15 on 15 off and a airstone and my new nut. solution is master a and b with hygrozyme and sweet. I also added a 150w hps to the mix and figured id keep the halogen to for the extra light spectrum. Mind you this is one plant. And i want to see large yeild. What could i expect?
 

cruzer101

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Get a 400 watt HPS and put 4 or 5 plants under a screen, as they grow train them sideways for a couple weeks so the lower buds get light too. Actually that would be minimum lighting to get 4 oz.

You could get 4oz off one plant if you could grow it large enough. The average indoor plant yeilds an oz if done right. Most people get about 1/2 oz the first time around.
 

InsaneInTheBrain

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4 ounces? You don't think he could do that with a 250 mh/hps if he did have a good setup? (current ain't going to cut it, unless you veg the shit out of it in the perfect environment). 4 ounces is ~113 grams. .45 grams/watt would get you 113 grams (4 ounces) with a 250 mh/hps.
 

dripdrew

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So the idea is half a gram for every watt? Theres a 150 watt hps and a 120 watt halogen so even with just the hps it could be 75 grams for a decent yeild? Cuz i have heard a gram a watt so 150 watts of hps its unrealistic to gett 112 would be 4 oz thats not possible even trimming low leaves and vegging 6 weeks?
 

cruzer101

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There is lots of variables in every indoor grow and things you can do to improve but one thing you just cant get around is wattage per foot. Even with LED's

I have tried lots of things, you can look at all my journals. I am the kind of person who does the research, then I try it and keep notes in a journal and compare the results with what I learned previously. Most of the time its similar. Sometimes its not.

So I speak from my experience. Not repeating what I have read.

The best I have done with a 400 watt bulb and 100 watts of CFL side lighting was 5.8 OZ in a 2x4 foot cabinet.
Actually I have two cabs. One has the 400w in it and the second is a floro grow 200 watts. (experimenting again)

My last grow. Heres a few pics right before harvest.













Depends on the strain also. See the tall one on the right, Thats White Widow. The rest are Trainwreck. Widow gets more per foot but takes a few weeks longer to grow.

And a trichome shot





Shot of the harvest the day I cut.
Trainwreck on the left, widow on the right and all lower buds lower right.





I made some modifications to the cab and I am starting my next grow with a screen and a reflector I made. I should be able to improve on yield some.

Now, figure 6 oz right?
Thats 168 grams. Now that you see some results with a higher power lamp do you really think a 250 watt would give you 250 grams? I believe a gram per watt is possible with higher power lamps like 1000w and optimal conditions.
 

cruzer101

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I wish that was possable. I dont mean to shoot you down and I may be wrong, Its just want I have experenced.
 
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