Afganistan Collapse
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US strikes suicide bombers in vehicle headed to Kabul airport: report
A U.S. airstrike targeted "multiple suicide bombers" in a vehicle that was headed to the airport in Kabul in the midst of the final days of a massive military evacuation effort of Americans and allies from Afghanistan, The Associated Press reported, citing a Taliban official.
Two U.S. officials called the strike successful and said it resulted in "significant secondary explosions" that suggested there were explosives inside the vehicle, according to the AP.
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Rocket attack near Kabul airport reportedly kills child
A child was killed in a rocket attack on Sunday northwest of Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, according to The Associated Press, which cited an Afghan police chief.
The attack comes as the U.S. military winds down its efforts to evacuate tens of thousands of U.S. citizens and Afghan allies following the Taliban takeover of the country in recent weeks.
Late Saturday, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul issued a security alert advising Americans near the airport to leave the area “immediately,” warning of a “specific, credible threat.”
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A U.S. airstrike targeted "multiple suicide bombers" in a vehicle that was headed to the airport in Kabul in the midst of the final days of a massive military evacuation effort of Americans and allies from Afghanistan, The Associated Press reported, citing a Taliban official.
Two U.S. officials called the strike successful and said it resulted in "significant secondary explosions" that suggested there were explosives inside the vehicle, according to the AP.
US strikes vehicle loaded with explosives headed to Kabul airport
Editor’s note: The Pentagon has since confirmed that it mistook a civilian vehicle for an ISIS-K threat when it launched the drone strike on Aug. 29 in Kabul that killed 10 civilians and has …
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Rocket attack near Kabul airport reportedly kills child
A child was killed in a rocket attack on Sunday northwest of Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, according to The Associated Press, which cited an Afghan police chief.
The attack comes as the U.S. military winds down its efforts to evacuate tens of thousands of U.S. citizens and Afghan allies following the Taliban takeover of the country in recent weeks.
Late Saturday, the U.S. Embassy in Kabul issued a security alert advising Americans near the airport to leave the area “immediately,” warning of a “specific, credible threat.”
Rocket attack near Kabul airport reportedly kills child
A child was killed in a rocket attack on Sunday northwest of Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan, according to The Associated Press, which cited an Afghan police chie…
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McConnell calls Afghanistan withdrawal 'one of the worst foreign policy decisions in American history'
“We're looking at the exit, and over the next two days, our heroic military is doing the best they can with a horrible policy decision. This is one of the worst foreign policy decisions in American history, much worse than Saigon,” McConnell told host Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.”
McConnell contended that the current situation is worse than the U.S.’s withdrawal from Vietnam because of the terror threat that will remain on the ground once American forces leave Afghanistan.
“After we left Saigon, there weren't Vietnamese terrorists who were planning on attacking us here at home. ... We leave behind exactly what we went in to solve 20 years ago, and I fear for the future and continuing the war on terror,” McConnell said.
“You know, just because we decided to quit fighting doesn't mean the terrorists go away. So they're still out there. They're invigorated. They're emboldened and excited about the success they see in bringing America to its knees in Afghanistan,” he added.
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Graham: 'The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof'
Graham, during an interview with guest host Ed O’Keefe on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” said a “parade of horribles is about to unfold” in Afghanistan as the U.S. moves into the final stage of the withdrawal process.
“We're leaving thousands of Afghan allies behind who fought bravely with us. We're gonna leave hundreds of American citizens behind. The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof. These drone attacks will not degrade ISIS. The number of ISIS fighters have doubled. We've turned our back on our allies ... and we set the conditions for another 9/11,” Graham said.
“I've never been more worried about an attack on our homeland than I am right now,” he added.
Graham also rejected President Biden’s argument that the U.S. is ending the war in Afghanistan by removing troops, instead contending that the country is entering a new “deadly chapter.”
“We did not end this war. President Biden said that he wanted to take Afghanistan off the plate for future presidents. He's turned the exact opposite. For the next 20 years, American presidents would be dealing with this catastrophe and Afghanistan. This war has not ended. We've entered into a new deadly chapter. Terrorists are now in charge of Afghanistan," he said.
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Easy to complain now that Trump is out of office.
“We're looking at the exit, and over the next two days, our heroic military is doing the best they can with a horrible policy decision. This is one of the worst foreign policy decisions in American history, much worse than Saigon,” McConnell told host Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.”
McConnell contended that the current situation is worse than the U.S.’s withdrawal from Vietnam because of the terror threat that will remain on the ground once American forces leave Afghanistan.
“After we left Saigon, there weren't Vietnamese terrorists who were planning on attacking us here at home. ... We leave behind exactly what we went in to solve 20 years ago, and I fear for the future and continuing the war on terror,” McConnell said.
“You know, just because we decided to quit fighting doesn't mean the terrorists go away. So they're still out there. They're invigorated. They're emboldened and excited about the success they see in bringing America to its knees in Afghanistan,” he added.
McConnell rips Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal decision
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Sunday slammed President Biden’s decision to pull U.S. troops from Afghanistan, calling the move “one of the worst foreign policy decisions in Amer…
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Graham: 'The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof'
Graham, during an interview with guest host Ed O’Keefe on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” said a “parade of horribles is about to unfold” in Afghanistan as the U.S. moves into the final stage of the withdrawal process.
“We're leaving thousands of Afghan allies behind who fought bravely with us. We're gonna leave hundreds of American citizens behind. The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof. These drone attacks will not degrade ISIS. The number of ISIS fighters have doubled. We've turned our back on our allies ... and we set the conditions for another 9/11,” Graham said.
“I've never been more worried about an attack on our homeland than I am right now,” he added.
Graham also rejected President Biden’s argument that the U.S. is ending the war in Afghanistan by removing troops, instead contending that the country is entering a new “deadly chapter.”
“We did not end this war. President Biden said that he wanted to take Afghanistan off the plate for future presidents. He's turned the exact opposite. For the next 20 years, American presidents would be dealing with this catastrophe and Afghanistan. This war has not ended. We've entered into a new deadly chapter. Terrorists are now in charge of Afghanistan," he said.
Graham: ‘The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday said the chances of more terrorist attacks like the ones on Sept. 11, 2001 “just went through the roof” because of the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanis…
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Easy to complain now that Trump is out of office.
HGCC
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A pretty big chunk of the racist people I know got that way in jail, even just a short stint in county.
My sciency reasoning is that jail takes away people's humanity, just leaving skin color as the way to differentiate each other. It's related to how prevalent racism is with really poor people. It's a base sort of thing that can be appealed to, summed up nicely by that LBJ quote about convincing the poor white he is better off than the poor black. Jail amplifies that, you are all equal and have the same lack of stuff...so that base instinct really comes out.
Fogdog
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oops, a 9/11 false conspiracy theory is not where I thought you'd go but OK. It's a harmless belief but not a good argument.
Yes, there is a Saudi connection that we kind of know of but not the details.
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anyone notice how this article starts off? the words?McConnell calls Afghanistan withdrawal 'one of the worst foreign policy decisions in American history'
“We're looking at the exit, and over the next two days, our heroic military is doing the best they can with a horrible policy decision. This is one of the worst foreign policy decisions in American history, much worse than Saigon,” McConnell told host Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.”
McConnell contended that the current situation is worse than the U.S.’s withdrawal from Vietnam because of the terror threat that will remain on the ground once American forces leave Afghanistan.
“After we left Saigon, there weren't Vietnamese terrorists who were planning on attacking us here at home. ... We leave behind exactly what we went in to solve 20 years ago, and I fear for the future and continuing the war on terror,” McConnell said.
“You know, just because we decided to quit fighting doesn't mean the terrorists go away. So they're still out there. They're invigorated. They're emboldened and excited about the success they see in bringing America to its knees in Afghanistan,” he added.
McConnell rips Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal decision
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Sunday slammed President Biden’s decision to pull U.S. troops from Afghanistan, calling the move “one of the worst foreign policy decisions in Amer…
Graham: 'The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof'
Graham, during an interview with guest host Ed O’Keefe on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” said a “parade of horribles is about to unfold” in Afghanistan as the U.S. moves into the final stage of the withdrawal process.
“We're leaving thousands of Afghan allies behind who fought bravely with us. We're gonna leave hundreds of American citizens behind. The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof. These drone attacks will not degrade ISIS. The number of ISIS fighters have doubled. We've turned our back on our allies ... and we set the conditions for another 9/11,” Graham said.
“I've never been more worried about an attack on our homeland than I am right now,” he added.
Graham also rejected President Biden’s argument that the U.S. is ending the war in Afghanistan by removing troops, instead contending that the country is entering a new “deadly chapter.”
“We did not end this war. President Biden said that he wanted to take Afghanistan off the plate for future presidents. He's turned the exact opposite. For the next 20 years, American presidents would be dealing with this catastrophe and Afghanistan. This war has not ended. We've entered into a new deadly chapter. Terrorists are now in charge of Afghanistan," he said.
Graham: ‘The chance of another 9/11 just went through the roof’
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) on Sunday said the chances of more terrorist attacks like the ones on Sept. 11, 2001 “just went through the roof” because of the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanis…
Easy to complain now that Trump is out of office.
Trump's Deal To End War In Afghanistan Leaves Biden With 'A Terrible Situation'
The Trump White House agreed to a May 1 troop withdrawal. New Yorker writer Dexter Filkins says Biden must now decide whether to honor a deal that included the Taliban but not the Afghan government.
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i'll help you..The Trump White House agreed..
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Most Americans believe US should stay in Afghanistan until Afghan allies evacuated: poll
About seven in 10 Americans say U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all the Afghans who assisted the U.S. have been evacuated, a ABC News/Ipsos Poll published on Sunday found.
In comparison, roughly 28 percent of those polled say the troops should not stay that long.
An even greater majority of Americans – 84 percent – say that U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all Americans are evacuated. About 15 percent disagree.
The poll, which was conducted between Aug. 27 and 28, found 38 percent of Americans approve of President Biden’s handling of Afghanistan compared to almost 60 percent who say they disapprove. The poll was conducted just after a suicide bombing near the Hamid Karzai International Airport killed 13 U.S. service members and more than 150 Afghans on Thursday.
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About seven in 10 Americans say U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all the Afghans who assisted the U.S. have been evacuated, a ABC News/Ipsos Poll published on Sunday found.
In comparison, roughly 28 percent of those polled say the troops should not stay that long.
An even greater majority of Americans – 84 percent – say that U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all Americans are evacuated. About 15 percent disagree.
The poll, which was conducted between Aug. 27 and 28, found 38 percent of Americans approve of President Biden’s handling of Afghanistan compared to almost 60 percent who say they disapprove. The poll was conducted just after a suicide bombing near the Hamid Karzai International Airport killed 13 U.S. service members and more than 150 Afghans on Thursday.
Most Americans believe US should stay in Afghanistan until Afghan allies evacuated: poll
About seven in 10 Americans say U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all the Afghans who assisted the U.S. have been evacuated, a ABC News/Ipsos Poll published on…
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Rurumo
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Getting our troops out of Afghanistan was a campaign promise for both Obama and Trump-though Republican selective memory is fuzzy on that point. Biden is the only one who had the guts to do it. It was 100% guaranteed to be an ugly mess whether it happened in 2002 or today. I find it hilarious that Republicans have ANYTHING negative to say about it since Trump and Pompeo surrendered to the Taliban last year and agreed on a 14 month pullout, which means we are RIGHT ON SCHEDULE. Trump just cowardly passed the buck to the next guy, just like every other President. Biden is only 6 months into his Presidency and he has already made a bigger impact than our last two Presidents combined. He cut $100 off my monthly insurance premium AND ended criminal American imperialism in Afghanistan. I didn't expect anything from Biden so color me pleasantly surprised. It's a sad sign of our times that Americans love Presidents who start wars but hate the ones that end them.
Budley Doright
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Amazing to me how it was handled but the damage is done. All of the allies that they were trying to get out should have been brought out before the pullout but like I said I’m just a mere mortal soooMost Americans believe US should stay in Afghanistan until Afghan allies evacuated: poll
About seven in 10 Americans say U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all the Afghans who assisted the U.S. have been evacuated, a ABC News/Ipsos Poll published on Sunday found.
In comparison, roughly 28 percent of those polled say the troops should not stay that long.
An even greater majority of Americans – 84 percent – say that U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all Americans are evacuated. About 15 percent disagree.
The poll, which was conducted between Aug. 27 and 28, found 38 percent of Americans approve of President Biden’s handling of Afghanistan compared to almost 60 percent who say they disapprove. The poll was conducted just after a suicide bombing near the Hamid Karzai International Airport killed 13 U.S. service members and more than 150 Afghans on Thursday.
Most Americans believe US should stay in Afghanistan until Afghan allies evacuated: poll
About seven in 10 Americans say U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all the Afghans who assisted the U.S. have been evacuated, a ABC News/Ipsos Poll published on…
. Do you think maybe they had no intention of trying and now can lay blame because “they tried” and were thwarted at every turn.......
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But if Trump won the election, like he said he did, then he would not be leaving it for the next guy.
That said, he did not attempt to get anyone out before then. Especially May 1, like he barganed with the Taliban (throwing the Afghan government under the bus with not including them in the talks). But that would slow down negotiations and Donald wanted a 'Win' to show his supporters.
hanimmal
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Sounds like there is less than 300 Americans still over there. And Biden can't tell them to get on a plane, but has said that if they want in the future to get home, they will make it happen.Most Americans believe US should stay in Afghanistan until Afghan allies evacuated: poll
About seven in 10 Americans say U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all the Afghans who assisted the U.S. have been evacuated, a ABC News/Ipsos Poll published on Sunday found.
In comparison, roughly 28 percent of those polled say the troops should not stay that long.
An even greater majority of Americans – 84 percent – say that U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all Americans are evacuated. About 15 percent disagree.
The poll, which was conducted between Aug. 27 and 28, found 38 percent of Americans approve of President Biden’s handling of Afghanistan compared to almost 60 percent who say they disapprove. The poll was conducted just after a suicide bombing near the Hamid Karzai International Airport killed 13 U.S. service members and more than 150 Afghans on Thursday.
Most Americans believe US should stay in Afghanistan until Afghan allies evacuated: poll
About seven in 10 Americans say U.S. troops should remain in Afghanistan until all the Afghans who assisted the U.S. have been evacuated, a ABC News/Ipsos Poll published on…
Budley Doright
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What about all of the people that allied with the “occupation” force?
hanimmal
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The over 100k that they have evacuated, and are not done yet.
One of the things that the Taliban has agreed to from what I heard reported was that they need to allow people to come and go from there. So we will see.
Lucky Luke
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Its actually been a theory since the first days. Yes, its more heavily believed in countries other than America but then that just makes it more plausible.
Fahrenheit 9/11 is an interesting watch.
CunningCanuk
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So is The Wizard of Oz if you’re into fiction.
Fogdog
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Your story broke down when "some people say" was used to justify your belief.
Regarding Moore's movie:
Fahrenheit 9/11 is a 2004 American documentary film directed, written by, and starring filmmaker, director and political commentator Michael Moore. The film takes a critical look at the presidency of George W. Bush, the war in Iraq, and its coverage in the media. In the film, Moore contends that American corporate media were "cheerleaders" for the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and did not provide an accurate or objective analysis of the rationale for the war and the resulting casualties there.
That movie was about the war in Iraq, not Afghanistan. The lies that Bush told to justify the invasion of Iraq were almost instantly proven false but even in that movie they don't repeat what you said about Afghanistan. They said we didn't do enough there, or that is the opinion pushed by people interviewed in that movie. Perhaps, you have confused the two stories?