AK Bean Brains

Rufus T. Firefly

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So past couple month made a few big orders to upgrade my collection. JB company was one, picked some more AK gear I had to have. Ended up winning their lottery, 1st place. Was going to grab the Pineapple Fields but a lot of interest from folks here on that one as it was sold out. Also, I just finished a gar of Honey Badger Haze (freebies from JB) and they had strong pineapple terps (and potent). So went with the 30 year old freezer bean and left the Pineapple fields for the runner up.
Half went in straight water the other have in water w/ Grbberellic Acid. I am not a expert by any means with this stuff, but it has worked in the past for me with old/hard seeds.
Nothing cracked in the straight water. Several in the G. Acid solution cracked after 24 hours, problem was, in my experience, should have only been in 12 hours with checking every 6. Was not able to do this and the acid make the water very nasty and stinking after 24 hours and if you don’t get then out of that solution right about the time the crack into fresh water, it tends to kill then. That’s what happened to the one that cracked, did not get them out of that solution in time and they died. Again, no expert and welcome any pointers using this stuff. Zero disappointment regarding the beans, always a learning experience.
Here is a picture of the pack and the acid. Just an FYI, this powdered acid is nasty stuff, you should wear a mask, googles and gloves when handling. Don’t breath in even the smallest amount as it is a fine dust and can get airborne easily if not handled carefully.
From what I have heard a seed scuffer or a even a seed cracker can help those old beans that don't have enough energy left to pop. Dagga.garden has a cracker that Mr. Toad (Boneyard Seeds) designed. I have a couple of scuffers from GLG that like a film canister with sandpaper in it you could make one yourself pretty easily.

Good luck!
 

jasonryan00

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So past couple month made a few big orders to upgrade my collection. JB company was one, picked some more AK gear I had to have. Ended up winning their lottery, 1st place. Was going to grab the Pineapple Fields but a lot of interest from folks here on that one as it was sold out. Also, I just finished a gar of Honey Badger Haze (freebies from JB) and they had strong pineapple terps (and potent). So went with the 30 year old freezer bean and left the Pineapple fields for the runner up.
Half went in straight water the other have in water w/ Grbberellic Acid. I am not a expert by any means with this stuff, but it has worked in the past for me with old/hard seeds.
Nothing cracked in the straight water. Several in the G. Acid solution cracked after 24 hours, problem was, in my experience, should have only been in 12 hours with checking every 6. Was not able to do this and the acid make the water very nasty and stinking after 24 hours and if you don’t get then out of that solution right about the time the crack into fresh water, it tends to kill then. That’s what happened to the one that cracked, did not get them out of that solution in time and they died. Again, no expert and welcome any pointers using this stuff. Zero disappointment regarding the beans, always a learning experience.
Here is a picture of the pack and the acid. Just an FYI, this powdered acid is nasty stuff, you should wear a mask, googles and gloves when handling. Don’t breath in even the smallest amount as it is a fine dust and can get airborne easily if not handled carefully.
DAMN thats crazy i was entered into that as well, congratulations!
 

Freshbakd

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From what I have heard a seed scuffer or a even a seed cracker can help those old beans that don't have enough energy left to pop. Dagga.garden has a cracker that Mr. Toad (Boneyard Seeds) designed. I have a couple of scuffers from GLG that like a film canister with sandpaper in it you could make one yourself pretty easily.

Good luck!
Old way was a small piece of sandpaper in a matchbox. I do it very vigorously and haven't damaged a bean.
 

VAhomegrown

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I read a post somewhere a while back that I can't find anymore, but it said that older seeds may have lost some enzyme that helps the seed pop or grow or something. If you put some fresh tomato seeds in a glass of water for 48 hrs, it's supposed to put that enzyme in the water. Remove the tomato seeds and drop in the cannabis seeds. Sounds good in theory.
 

GrownAtHighAltitude

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I read a post somewhere a while back that I can't find anymore, but it said that older seeds may have lost some enzyme that helps the seed pop or grow or something. If you put some fresh tomato seeds in a glass of water for 48 hrs, it's supposed to put that enzyme in the water. Remove the tomato seeds and drop in the cannabis seeds. Sounds good in theory.
Same thing with pinto beans. Soak beans overnight and use that water to soak seeds with. I have tried this method and it works, FYI.
 

nuskool89

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I read a post somewhere a while back that I can't find anymore, but it said that older seeds may have lost some enzyme that helps the seed pop or grow or something. If you put some fresh tomato seeds in a glass of water for 48 hrs, it's supposed to put that enzyme in the water. Remove the tomato seeds and drop in the cannabis seeds. Sounds good in theory.
I regularly throw pothos cuttings in my water cups I use to clone. Years ago I read pothos have high levels of hormones that stimulate rooting and it does seem to help, so it’s become a part of the ritual.

your logic is sound, I’ll try this
 
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JewelRunner

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jimihendrix1

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Just popped some nl5/haze.. Cant wait to see what i get here.
Anyone grow em out yet
Ive got some seeds of that, Id like to know how yours turn out. The NL5/Haze caan be some potent stuff.
Ive been smoking over 50 years, and I had a cross back in the 90s that was NL5/Haze x Hashplant/Sk1, and it was as good of a smoke as any Ive ever had. Best indoor stuff Ive ever seen. Only about 3 other strains in 50 years is comparable. I grew if from 1992-97. Then a partner got into trouble and ratted me out, and the feds got it.
 

jasonryan00

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White91/TKNL Haze youngin’ started and a few fruity selections for fun. Been thinking about adding a new tent set up, small 4x4 and LED. For bang for the buck, any of you using LED for a tent that size?

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respect,
pal
I have used LED's in all my tents, you can't beat it. I have 2 LED's in my 5X5 tent and i have no complaints. I feel that the LED's can even out your power usage. Plus the heat saving is night and day compared to HPS, especially now that LED's have the ability to dim to multiple settings, the addition of UV B and C light and the ability to dial in color spectrum that way you can switch the light from veg to bloom like a 2 for 1 thing. i run my lights and vent fans in multiple tents and power bill stays at around 80 a month
 

Boatguy

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Ive got some seeds of that, Id like to know how yours turn out. The NL5/Haze caan be some potent stuff.
Ive been smoking over 50 years, and I had a cross back in the 90s that was NL5/Haze x Hashplant/Sk1, and it was as good of a smoke as any Ive ever had. Best indoor stuff Ive ever seen. Only about 3 other strains in 50 years is comparable. I grew if from 1992-97. Then a partner got into trouble and ratted me out, and the feds got it.
Thats about the era i got to smoke it for a bit.
I have a tendency to grow for nostalgia. Hoping it'll be like i remember.. Will put some pics up when it gets rolling
 

Dankortowne

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White91/TKNL Haze youngin’ started and a few fruity selections for fun. Been thinking about adding a new tent set up, small 4x4 and LED. For bang for the buck, any of you using LED for a tent that size?

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respect,
pal
I’ve got a few small tents like that but 2x4 x5 or 6 with simple 100 watts quantum’s 2 per tent vivasun is fairly cheap and seem good and spider farmer seems fairly cheap and good ,you would need 4 for a 4x4 or the 4000 model but I think you’ll kill it with that set up
 

SFnone

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Ive got some seeds of that, Id like to know how yours turn out. The NL5/Haze caan be some potent stuff.
Ive been smoking over 50 years, and I had a cross back in the 90s that was NL5/Haze x Hashplant/Sk1, and it was as good of a smoke as any Ive ever had. Best indoor stuff Ive ever seen. Only about 3 other strains in 50 years is comparable. I grew if from 1992-97. Then a partner got into trouble and ratted me out, and the feds got it.
I had some weed a little after that time frame that my buddy got from an older grower that 100% had NL/Haze mixed with something else that I could never identify, and it was super potent. Flashing lights, total separation from where you were kind of strong. One guy who was a heavy smoker, tried some and couldn't tell if he crapped his pants or not. 2 others reportedly saw shadow people hiding behind trees. I still don't know if it was all the weed or if it was laced with pcp or something, but it was wonderful. The closest thing I've had since is mixing a bowl with half good pure Haze and half something I got in CO called "Kramer", which I think is a Sour D and Chems cross.
 

jasonryan00

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The one thing i forgot to add to my comment above is that 4X4 might be easier in this regard
but in a 5X5 coverage with one light can be very tricky. I have one on each side with a small crossover in the middle. I would just keep that in mind when buying a LED is that you want to balance out being able to have the 4X4 footprint covered while still maintaining it close enough to the canopy to achieve maximum light efficiently
I use a KIND LED (they are on the pricey side) that is a few years older so it's a little heavier and not as controllable as the new models but i have no complaints it has Infra red and UV diodes. The newer models are more like the bar style over the brick so cooling and coverage are improved but because of supply chain issues like everything they are backordered.
But like mentioned above vivasun and spiderfarm are good lights, so it gives a budget friendly entry to see how you like it. I also have a TSL horti tech in my 2X4 tent it's not a name brand buy it has all the bells a whistles than known companies have (dimming, external control ports etc)
 

jasonryan00

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Decisions decisions lol.... and below is another order that is on the way

Oaxacan/Big Skunk
Skunk #1/Super Skunk
Boel Oaxacan/Dwarf Oaxacan
Americanna/Black Dom HP NL1
TKNL5 Haze/NL5
TK NL5 Haze/Black Domina NW Hash Plant-NL1

Mexican Death Sativa
Chocolope
G13/HP

I popped a full pack of 89 NL fast germ, great success rates 11/12 doing really good. AK described it as a 3X BX 45-50 day finish in a bullet proof plant. So i'm looking for males to use to bring down longer flowering times in other cultivars while improving their resistance

Probably gonna pop both packs of the TKNL5haze/Blk Domina next
Defiantly have a seed increase planned for both TK/BLK Dom and 89 to have greater number to hunt and for preservation
As well as DTHF and G13/HP since i'll have 2 packs each to take my selections from


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Rob Roy

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Old way was a small piece of sandpaper in a matchbox. I do it very vigorously and haven't damaged a bean.
I've used a cut up emery board like the one women use to file their nails, in a small plastic covered container. Insert seed, shaky shaky, shaky then scuffed seed(s) goes into the damp paper towel, etc.



Also, I'm curious about the AK Bean Brains Kali Mist if anyone has feedback.
 

sdd420

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Decisions decisions lol.... and below is another order that is on the way

Oaxacan/Big Skunk
Skunk #1/Super Skunk
Boel Oaxacan/Dwarf Oaxacan
Americanna/Black Dom HP NL1
TKNL5 Haze/NL5
TK NL5 Haze/Black Domina NW Hash Plant-NL1

Mexican Death Sativa
Chocolope
G13/HP

I popped a full pack of 89 NL fast germ, great success rates 11/12 doing really good. AK described it as a 3X BX 45-50 day finish in a bullet proof plant. So i'm looking for males to use to bring down longer flowering times in other cultivars while improving their resistance

Probably gonna pop both packs of the TKNL5haze/Blk Domina next
Defiantly have a seed increase planned for both TK/BLK Dom and 89 to have greater number to hunt and for preservation
As well as DTHF and G13/HP since i'll have 2 packs each to take my selections from


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