AK Bean Brains

420drummer said:

Anybody run the dope bears durban? Gotta pack waiting for next run was just curious.

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I am running it right now... Out of 5 beans I had 3 females and 2 males. One female is super short and really bushy, sweet licorice smell! This one is gonn be the winner out of the Dope Beards I bet! I will be flipping to flower in a week or possibly 2 at the absolute tops!

I will say this... out of 10 Darians Gap ( CG/PR x Tknl5haze) I have 9 females! The f to m ratio was obviously very high for me.

I just recieved 16 of the old classic seed catalogues and I'm fucking stoked! It was a gift from AKBB and in it he even threw in some beans! I got Tknl5haze s1's! Grapefruit Med, SoRom ( sohum black dom x romulan), skunk quabbage bx7, skunk quabbage x tropolope and blackstar! What a fucking hook up! AKBB is the coolest dude alive lol...

Btw i just popped 5 out of 10 of my Beatrix Choice. AKBB told me to go ahead and start mine to see if he needed to do anything special for germination, he is supposed to recieve his Friday according to tracking (probably Thursday). He is going to start his 5 as soon as he gets them too and we will be working it from both ends. Hope we get a good equivalent ratio of both males and females. The collaboration has begun!

The Beatrix Choice.... Just hit the cups this morning!






Close.... but not all, of my AKBB collection! (gonna need a separate lockbox JUST for Ak Bean Brains soon!! Lol)







And finally.... The catalogs! Mother fucker I've missed these books!

Don beta said:

Popped a pack of relics cough bx(a). Inside the pack there was another container of consumption x purple punch. Didn’t expect that. Sounds like it could be tasty. From what I’ve seen on here the consumption is heavy haze? Awesome.

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Bad Karma said:

After I read your post, I checked my pack of Consumption F2 #2 from Relic, that I'd recently purchased.
Inside I found an unexpected 3 pack of Sister Cheese seeds (Sister Nicole #2 x Cheese BX) along with the Consumption.
I'm a huge Cheese fan so this is a very exciting surprise.
Thank you for the heads up, Don Beta.

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every Relic pack has a random 3pack freebie inside the pack

I got the Potent Punch(Purple Punch x Consumption) 3 times.I also got the Sister Cheese and Sour Grapefruit Diesel

I kept buying packs trying to get the MTF x Ms Universe freebie but i never got it

Hopefully he releases that cross someday

mindriot said:

Yea it's a good resource for sorting through genetics... unfortunately I don't think many breeders use it much, the info is a bit old

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I wish more would. I use it as my go-to for the most accurate strain info easily found.

I found this over on the Swami thread. I'm pretty sure this is what AK is referencing when he talks about NL5/Haze and it's reputation. Not sure which issue, but I know this is from an 80's seed catalog.

Robar said:

I found this over on the Swami thread. I'm pretty sure this is what AK is referencing when he talks about NL5/Haze and it's reputation. Not sure which issue, but I know this is from an 80's seed catalog.View attachment 4557804

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Bingo!

psychadelibud said:

.... but not all, of my AKBB collection! (gonna need a separate lockbox JUST for Ak Bean Brains soon!! Lol)


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Amazing collection.

I see the NL1 x Big Skunk/NL1 is opened. I've got a few of these just started. Do you remember much about the grow and/or smoke?

If not, I get it. With a collection like that, I imagine you've got many grows under the belt to pull memories/info from.

The Beatrix Choice project is exciting. Keep us posted.

klyphman said:

Amazing collection.

I see the NL1 x Big Skunk/NL1 is opened. I've got a few of these just started. Do you remember much about the grow and/or smoke?

If not, I get it. With a collection like that, I imagine you've got many grows under the belt to pull memories/info from.

The Beatrix Choice project is exciting. Keep us posted.

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X2 I have the NL1 x Big Skunk/NL1 as well. Would be interested in any info. Thanks

I've been considering my options for running the Darian Gap and Consumption. I'm switching my whole system when the TK NL5 Haze are done in the next week or so. I've been growing in Promix for a long time and using T5s for veg and 1000 watt HPS for flowering. I'm wanting to down size and switch to hydro. So I got a 315 CMH and pulled a Rainforest and flood&drain system out of storage and plan to use those for the Darian Gap and Consumption. I remember years ago people talking about starting sativas under 12/12 to help control the height. But I'm concerned that not allowing them to mature before switching to 12/12 might affect the potency. Any of you folks have any experience with this way of growing sativas?

Kndreyn said:

I've been considering my options for running the Darian Gap and Consumption. I'm switching my whole system when the TK NL5 Haze are done in the next week or so. I've been growing in Promix for a long time and using T5s for veg and 1000 watt HPS for flowering. I'm wanting to down size and switch to hydro. So I got a 315 CMH and pulled a Rainforest and flood&drain system out of storage and plan to use those for the Darian Gap and Consumption. I remember years ago people talking about starting sativas under 12/12 to help control the height. But I'm concerned that not allowing them to mature before switching to 12/12 might affect the potency. Any of you folks have any experience with this way of growing sativas?

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I mostly grow inside and prefer sativa crosses. I took the Rev's advise and flower clones. That way they are mature in age and you can flip the switch when they are short. Then train, train, train and remember sometimes true love takes a firm hand and its damned hard to break the spirit of a healthy sativa.

When popping fresh seeds to take a look I tend to top early and work real hard to keep them down.

Something I've seen and wanted to try was top the plant leaving 2 healthy branches. Put in a tomato cage and wrap them vine like around and around the outside of the cage keeping height bearable. I think coots illustrated this years back and I'm pretty sure I read gas describe a similar concept over in the swami thread.

I gown in soil and you're talking about dusting off you hydro but the concept is the same.

Kndreyn said:

I've been considering my options for running the Darian Gap and Consumption. I'm switching my whole system when the TK NL5 Haze are done in the next week or so. I've been growing in Promix for a long time and using T5s for veg and 1000 watt HPS for flowering. I'm wanting to down size and switch to hydro. So I got a 315 CMH and pulled a Rainforest and flood&drain system out of storage and plan to use those for the Darian Gap and Consumption. I remember years ago people talking about starting sativas under 12/12 to help control the height. But I'm concerned that not allowing them to mature before switching to 12/12 might affect the potency. Any of you folks have any experience with this way of growing sativas?

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I don't think potency is affected, but that's just my opinion.

People like myself turn sativas early to control the finished height.
When I turn a sativa just after the seedling stage, I can usually expect a strech from 8 inches to about 6 feet.
Indoors sativas grow into a mess if you veg them too long and start requiring side lighting to help light up the tree.

Robar said:

I mostly grow inside and prefer sativa crosses. I took the Rev's advise and flower clones. That way they are mature in age and you can flip the switch when they are short. Then train, train, train and remember sometimes true love takes a firm hand and its damned hard to break the spirit of a healthy sativa.

When popping fresh seeds to take a look I tend to top early and work real hard to keep them down.

Something I've seen and wanted to try was top the plant leaving 2 healthy branches. Put in a tomato cage and wrap them vine like around and around the outside of the cage keeping height bearable. I think coots illustrated this years back and I'm pretty sure I read gas describe a similar concept over in the swami thread.

I gown in soil and you're talking about dusting off you hydro but the concept is the same.

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I'm also going to avoid keeping clones for awhile. I've been battling powdery mildew for a couple of years now, so I'm looking for a fresh start. I'll be sanitizing my grow rooms, and start up with brand new everything, just to see if I can get rid of the PM. I've tried everything. My environment is pretty well maintained, but this strain of PM just will not give up. I think I introduced it a couple of years ago when I acquired an old clone from a friend. I've had PM a few times over the years and never had much trouble getting rid of it. This one has been a read demon. That's why I'm making such a drastic change right now.

Your comment about using the tomato cages make me think back many years ago when I grew some Neville's haze. I think I let it flower for 120 days, and it was like a grape vine wrapped around everything I could attach it to hahaha...

Bakersfield said:

I don't think potency is affected, but that's just my opinion.

People like myself turn sativas early to control the finished height.
When I turn a sativa just after the seedling stage, I can usually expect a strech from 8 inches to about 6 feet.
Indoors sativas grow into a mess if you veg them too long and start requiring side lighting to help light up the tree.

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Yeah, I remember years ago when I first started growing, the people on the forums were saying you have to veg until the branches alternate before even taking cuttings or they wouldn't be as potent as if you let them mature. But reading the 12/12 from seed info on here, seems that old info was wrong. I don't know that I'll go 12/12 from seed. Maybe let them get a few nodes before flipping, but I'm going to try flipping them early just to keep things under control. It'll be a fun experiment.

Kndreyn said:

Yeah, I remember years ago when I first started growing, the people on the forums were saying you have to veg until the branches alternate before even taking cuttings or they wouldn't be as potent as if you let them mature. But reading the 12/12 from seed info on here, seems that old info was wrong. I don't know that I'll got 12/12 from seed. Maybe let them get a few nodes before flipping, but I'm going to try flipping them early just to keep things under control. It'll be a fun experiment.

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Kndreyn said:

I'm also going to avoid keeping clones for awhile. I've been battling powdery mildew for a couple of years now, so I'm looking for a fresh start. I'll be sanitizing my grow rooms, and start up with brand new everything, just to see if I can get rid of the PM. I've tried everything. My environment is pretty well maintained, but this strain of PM just will not give up. I think I introduced it a couple of years ago when I acquired an old clone from a friend. I've had PM a few times over the years and never had much trouble getting rid of it. This one has been a read demon. That's why I'm making such a drastic change right now.

Your comment about using the tomato cages make me think back many years ago when I grew some Neville's haze. I think I let it flower for 120 days, and it was like a grape vine wrapped around everything I could attach it to hahaha...

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Hey good luck on the experiment. Keep us posted on the grow as well as if you were finally able to eradicate the PM. Have a friend that got an old Hawaiian from an old friend of his and brought a nasty PM home to his grow with it. He ended up tearing down because of it but moved shortly after due to unrelated circumstances so we don't know if he got rid of it or not. Last summer sucked! he was fighting PM and I was battling the worst invasion of aphids I've ever seen or heard of.

Kndreyn said:

Yeah, I remember years ago when I first started growing, the people on the forums were saying you have to veg until the branches alternate before even taking cuttings or they wouldn't be as potent as if you let them mature. But reading the 12/12 from seed info on here, seems that old info was wrong. I don't know that I'll got 12/12 from seed. Maybe let them get a few nodes before flipping, but I'm going to try flipping them early just to keep things under control. It'll be a fun experiment.

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I do it all the time and the worst that can happen is the seedling will continue to grow in veg for a bit and add a week or two to the final flowering time.

Robar said:

Hey good luck on the experiment. Keep us posted on the grow as well as if you were finally able to eradicate the PM. Have a friend that got an old Hawaiian from an old friend of his and brought a nasty PM home to his grow with it. He ended up tearing down because of it but moved shortly after due to unrelated circumstances so we don't know if he got rid of it or not. Last summer sucked! he was fighting PM and I was battling the worst invasion of aphids I've ever seen or heard of.

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I had the same issue last year! Aphids up the ying yang. I had aphids once back around 2000 and easily got rid of them, and I've had spider mites a few times and easily dealt with them. But those aphids last year were a bugger!

Kndreyn said:

I had the same issue last year! Aphids up the ying yang. I had aphids once back around 2000 and easily got rid of them, and I've had spider mites a few times and easily dealt with them. But those aphids last year were a bugger!

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Are you talking aphids inside or out?

I also had crazy aphids last year (outdoors). Bought some ladybugs and re-located every daddy-long-leg I could find to my plants. It took a week or two, but soon all the aphids were gone and my plants were crawling with ladybugs in all phases of their life cycle. Daddy long legs everywhere and even some parasitic wasps joined the party.

Cool to see natural solutions instead of chemicals. Fingers crossed this year.

root aphids are hitting alot of big outdoor grows in Cali this year.... the whole state ...

Kndreyn said:

I had the same issue last year! Aphids up the ying yang. I had aphids once back around 2000 and easily got rid of them, and I've had spider mites a few times and easily dealt with them. But those aphids last year were a bugger!

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YES! Around here you couldn't even find neem oil or anything else safe to use the shelves were bare. I lost two runs of the same strain to those damned pests before chopping and using pyrethrins and thoroughly cleaning my tents and room. I didnt flower anything again until after we had a couple hard frosts. Oddly enough my outdoor plants did pretty well no worse bug issues than normal but Black Poison Skunk I was running indoors called the aphids like a siren

klyphman said:

Are you talking aphids inside or out?

I also had crazy aphids last year (outdoors). Bought some ladybugs and re-located every daddy-long-leg I could find to my plants. It took a week or two, but soon all the aphids were gone and my plants were crawling with ladybugs in all phases of their life cycle. Daddy long legs everywhere and even some parasitic wasps joined the party.

Cool to see natural solutions instead of chemicals. Fingers crossed this year.

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Inside I had it worse couldn't get lady bugs local at the time. Outdoor plants had a few but nothing destructive I had an alright outdoor year last year which for my area is real good because we get late rain that rots the hell outa my buds most years so pretty much gave up most of my outdoor growing until I get back out where I can run a hoop or green house.