AK Bean Brains

jimihendrix1

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Probably going to order 2 packs of the Consumption F2. If any are left in a couple weeks Ill also buy a couple NL5/NL5 packs. Theres also several more Id love to have.

Ive been smoking since 67, and grew my first outdoor plant in 72. Grew my 1st indoor stuff with 8ft SHO Fluro bulbs in 76, and got my first HID/1000w Metal Halide when they came out in 77-78.

But the best stuff I ever saw potency, and taste wise was a cross of late 80s, early 90s NL5Haze x Nevils Hashplant x Skunk#1.

I got 15 seeds from a friend, who got them from a guy at an Eagle Scouts Convention in Louisville Ky, in 1991-92. My buddy was an Eagle Scout Master. He also got some other seeds that were Kush/Sk1 x Haze/Nevils Hashplant. It was more Indica, and mine was very Sativa Dominant, but was done in 42-49 days believe it or not. Medium production.

But I had all kinds of people get mad at me and swore I put something in it. The got sick, and sat by the toilet for 3 hours gagging, paranoid, dizzy, and yes, 1 or 2 in the course of 5 years of growing it, yes, in some people it could make them lose bowel control.
What it does is it drives the blood sugar lever into the dirt, which adds to the mental confusion, paranoia, anxiety, and the low blood sugar adds on to the already extremely powerful, long lasting buzz, and can cause extreme anxiety, and agitation.

It was also not safe to try and drive, and smoke.
It was extremely lung expanding, and I dont care who you are, if you over toke this stuff, you ARE going to cough your brains completely out. Youre going to have snot and shit coming out your nose. Eyes full of tears. It could make you lose your vision for a few seconds. It really wasnt safe to try and drive and smoke at the same time.

But I had a gig going with my friends older uncle. 30 years older, and I made 1000 clones of this strain to put on his 1000+ acre farm, that was once his cattle farm in Lincoln co, Ky. I gave him 500 of them, and he got busted with them, and told on me, and they came and found another 500 from me, and I got charged for manufacturing all of them. I spent from 2007 -2009 with the Feds, and he didnt do any time.

But that strain had tasted like the best hash ever made, and it was better than 99% of all the hash Ive ever smoked in over 50 years of smoking. And we make bubble hash regularly. I also did my first extraction in 1974 with the original Thai Power Iso 1, they later came out with an Iso2... out of Hight Times.

But Ive been looking for all these old genetics, and a few people, every now and them come up with some of the real deal stuff of old. I was also buying all kinds of seeds from Seed Bank, and other Banks around then. The first stuff I remember ever ordering was the Mazar from Super Sativa Seed Club. It actually had a Post Mark from Santa Barbara California vs being sent from Holland. I did send the money to Holland, but the seeds were in California.


I wish all of the breeders that have these old genes from Nevil Seed Bank, Late 80s -90s Sensi Seeds, Super Sativa Seed Club, Cultivators Choice, and others. Keep all of your Mother/Father plants safe as these are the only link we have for these old genetics. Theyre at least on the highly endangered list.

I do wish someone would recreate the Original AK47 from the 90s. Even the second recreation in the early-mid 2000s was good shit, but what they have now, since 2007-8 is a shame. But the 90s stuff was superb herb. Getting that Super Skunk in uncrossed form would also be nice.
 
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Kndreyn

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Probably going to order 2 packs of the Consumption F2. If any are left in a couple weeks Ill also buy a couple NL5/NL5 packs. Theres also several more Id love to have.
I've seen you mention an interest in The Cough, so you might be interested in the original release of Consumption. The pack I got was just marked Consumption without the F2 designation. And it was listed as The Cough x TKNL5Haze. Now it appears both Relic and AKBB dropped the original Consumption and are selling f2s of it. It's listed as Consumption f1 x Consumption f1. There's a lot of confusion on some of these crosses... too much for me to keep up with.
 

jimihendrix1

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Yeah the F2 is more diverse than the F1. The F2s we made of some Mr Nice Super Silver Haze was better than the F1s, and from what I can tell we didnt lose any vigor. We made seeds 8 years ago, and popped 50 a while back, and every one of them came up.
 

idlewilder

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How they lookin? I got some of Doc D's Bandaid haze/strawberry milk going that has me worried about space. The nl5's are next
Not much stretch. Two general phenotypes, one broad leaf and one narrower leaf. I have one female that is a broad leaf, with vigor but the stem rub gives me citrus. Not what I was expecting but she’s the best of the bunch so far
 

Boatguy

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Not much stretch. Two general phenotypes, one broad leaf and one narrower leaf. I have one female that is a broad leaf, with vigor but the stem rub gives me citrus. Not what I was expecting but she’s the best of the bunch so far
Mine is stretchy as hell and smells of burning rubber. Potential i think:)
 

GrassBurner

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Probably going to order 2 packs of the Consumption F2. If any are left in a couple weeks Ill also buy a couple NL5/NL5 packs. Theres also several more Id love to have.

Ive been smoking since 67, and grew my first outdoor plant in 72. Grew my 1st indoor stuff with 8ft SHO Fluro bulbs in 76, and got my first HID/1000w Metal Halide when they came out in 77-78.

But the best stuff I ever saw potency, and taste wise was a cross of late 80s, early 90s NL5Haze x Nevils Hashplant x Skunk#1.

I got 15 seeds from a friend, who got them from a guy at an Eagle Scouts Convention in Louisville Ky, in 1991-92. My buddy was an Eagle Scout Master. He also got some other seeds that were Kush/Sk1 x Haze/Nevils Hashplant. It was more Indica, and mine was very Sativa Dominant, but was done in 42-49 days believe it or not. Medium production.

But I had all kinds of people get mad at me and swore I put something in it. The got sick, and sat by the toilet for 3 hours gagging, paranoid, dizzy, and yes, 1 or 2 in the course of 5 years of growing it, yes, in some people it could make them lose bowel control.
What it does is it drives the blood sugar lever into the dirt, which adds to the mental confusion, paranoia, anxiety, and the low blood sugar adds on to the already extremely powerful, long lasting buzz, and can cause extreme anxiety, and agitation.

It was also not safe to try and drive, and smoke.
It was extremely lung expanding, and I dont care who you are, if you over toke this stuff, you ARE going to cough your brains completely out. Youre going to have snot and shit coming out your nose. Eyes full of tears. It could make you lose your vision for a few seconds. It really wasnt safe to try and drive and smoke at the same time.

But I had a gig going with my friends older uncle. 30 years older, and I made 1000 clones of this strain to put on his 1000+ acre farm, that was once his cattle farm in Lincoln co, Ky. I gave him 500 of them, and he got busted with them, and told on me, and they came and found another 500 from me, and I got charged for manufacturing all of them. I spent from 2007 -2009 with the Feds, and he didnt do any time.

But that strain had tasted like the best hash ever made, and it was better than 99% of all the hash Ive ever smoked in over 50 years of smoking. And we make bubble hash regularly. I also did my first extraction in 1974 with the original Thai Power Iso 1, they later came out with an Iso2... out of Hight Times.

But Ive been looking for all these old genetics, and a few people, every now and them come up with some of the real deal stuff of old. I was also buying all kinds of seeds from Seed Bank, and other Banks around then. The first stuff I remember ever ordering was the Mazar from Super Sativa Seed Club. It actually had a Post Mark from Santa Barbara California vs being sent from Holland. I did send the money to Holland, but the seeds were in California.


I wish all of the breeders that have these old genes from Nevil Seed Bank, Late 80s -90s Sensi Seeds, Super Sativa Seed Club, Cultivators Choice, and others. Keep all of your Mother/Father plants safe as these are the only link we have for these old genetics. Theyre at least on the highly endangered list.

I do wish someone would recreate the Original AK47 from the 90s. Even the second recreation in the early-mid 2000s was good shit, but what they have now, since 2007-8 is a shame. But the 90s stuff was superb herb. Getting that Super Skunk in uncrossed form would also be nice.
I've heard some good stories about people growing smoke up in Kentucky, Id like to know the history of growing in this area. I bet there are plenty of stories that would rival the moonshine tales ive heard in my neck of the woods.
 

jimihendrix1

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I've seen you mention an interest in The Cough, so you might be interested in the original release of Consumption. The pack I got was just marked Consumption without the F2 designation. And it was listed as The Cough x TKNL5Haze. Now it appears both Relic and AKBB dropped the original Consumption and are selling f2s of it. It's listed as Consumption f1 x Consumption f1. There's a lot of confusion on some of these crosses... too much for me to keep up with.
We have 2 phenos of the Dynasty Genetics Super Silver Cough. 1 yields more than the other, and the other is more potent. Getting ready to can the bigger yielding one.
My friends wife calls it speed weed. Super up long lasting high. My friends wife is pretty hardcore too. She smokes more than he does. Shes been smoking 45 years. Him even longer.

Im probably going to have to also buy some of the straight NL5/Haze. Cant let those get away.

Authentic Genetics/Todd McCormick has the real deal, Original Pure Haze , from a source that got them n the 70s from Skunkman. Only thing is like he says. It varies like a MoFo, and flowering times are 16 weeks ect. Its best used for Breeding. He also has an Original Nevils Haze x Original Haze cross, and a bunch of other Original Nevils Haze crosses.

It would also be nice to again have Nevils Hashplant seed line, and Original Sk1.

If I could get the very best genetics of Original NL5/Haze, NL5, Nevils Hashplant, 80s Sk1, Id be done looking for genetics. I know the power locked in those genetics, and I smoked the same stuff from 92-97 until the feds got it, and never got tired of it, never got burned out on it, and was always happy to get it at harvest time.

For me, the 80s, and 90s genetics was the Pinnacle for the best genetics. I went from 97-2009 without smoking, and other than a killer 1994 AK47 mother my buddy kept alive for 26 years now, nothing compares to what I remember of the genetics I had the cops got.

I also have a phylos tested Chem91skva clone, and my old 90s NL5/Hz/HP//Sk1 was more potent. Considerably. It also tasted much better, and I prefer the reek of the NL5/hz/Hp/Sk1 vs the Chem91. The Haze hybrid was like the best hash taste that was ever made. Real Nepali Temple Balls.... And would show you your lungs if you tried to hold a hit. I love the Chem91 though, and is what Im smoking right now.

I also love the NL5. It is second to none of this so called newer stuff. NL5 when you have the right pheno can take you to the moon, and more. I had some so good that it gave my buddy a panic attack, and this guy is a hardcore smoker, and can smoke all night, but 20% of a good size joint made him super paranoid. I myself was on federal supervised release, and coudnt smoke, though I could grow, and was growing with a buddy. We used his place, I do all the work, and supply seeds, and lights. I took my one buddy over to the grow room, gave him the NL5 joint that I got from a buddy that grew it., as he was also my tester because I trusted his opinion, as he is very critical, and has a big tolerance. So I knew if he gets fucked up, its good. But only a small way through the joint, he was so paranoid he had to put it out, and started pacing back, and forth. It was funny. I could tell he was fucked up. The NL5 hit him Fast, and Hard. Shit creeped for an hour. He says its about as good as the 23 years old AK47 our friend has kept alive. Buddy lost the NL5 clone.

I also wish someone would come up with a really good Afghani #1 Redo. That was good shit too, and great for breeding. The best we had was a really Grape smelling plant of the highest order. Produced HUGE.
Out of Original Blue Moonshine, Sensi NL5/Haze, Willie Nelson,,, and Afghan #1, my grow partner preferred the Afghan #1 over all of it. I couldnt smoke. Was on fed release.
But the Sensi Afghan #1 I grew 2 years ago was terrible. Had to throw it away. It used to be killer.
 
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Kndreyn

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We have 2 phenos of the Dynasty Genetics Super Silver Cough. 1 yields more than the other, and the other is more potent. Getting ready to can the bigger yielding one.
My friends wife calls it speed weed. Super up long lasting high. My friends wife is pretty hardcore too. She smokes more than he does. Shes been smoking 45 years. Him even longer.

Im probably going to have to also buy some of the straight NL5/Haze. Cant let those get away.

Authentic Genetics/Todd McCormick has the real deal, Original Pure Haze , from a source that got them n the 70s from Skunkman. Only thing is like he says. It varies like a MoFo, and flowering times are 16 weeks ect. Its best used for Breeding. He also has an Original Nevils Haze x Original Haze cross, and a bunch of other Original Nevils Haze crosses.

It would also be nice to again have Nevils Hashplant seed line, and Original Sk1.

If I could get the very best genetics of Original NL5/Haze, NL5, Nevils Hashplant, 80s Sk1, Id be done looking for genetics. I know the power locked in those genetics, and I smoked the same stuff from 92-97 until the feds got it, and never got tired of it, never got burned out on it, and was always happy to get it at harvest time.

For me, the 80s, and 90s genetics was the Pinnacle for the best genetics. I went from 97-2009 without smoking, and other than a killer 1994 AK47 mother my buddy kept alive for 26 years now, nothing compares to what I remember of the genetics I had the cops got.

I also have a phylos tested Chem91skva clone, and my old 90s NL5/Hz/HP//Sk1 was more potent. Considerably. It also tasted much better, and I prefer the reek of the NL5/hz/Hp/Sk1 vs the Chem91. The Haze hybrid was like the best hash taste that was ever made. Real Nepali Temple Balls.... And would show you your lungs if you tried to hold a hit. I love the Chem91 though, and is what Im smoking right now.

I also love the NL5. It is second to none of this so called newer stuff. NL5 when you have the right pheno can take you to the moon, and more. I had some so good that it gave my buddy a panic attack, and this guy is a hardcore smoker, and can smoke all night, but 20% of a good size joint made him super paranoid. I myself was on federal supervised release, and coudnt smoke, though I could grow, and was growing with a buddy. We used his place, I do all the work, and supply seeds, and lights. I took my one buddy over to the grow room, gave him the NL5 joint that I got from a buddy that grew it., as he was also my tester because I trusted his opinion, as he is very critical, and has a big tolerance. So I knew if he gets fucked up, its good. But only a small way through the joint, he was so paranoid he had to put it out, and started pacing back, and forth. It was funny. I could tell he was fucked up. The NL5 hit him Fast, and Hard. Shit creeped for an hour. He says its about as good as the 23 years old AK47 our friend has kept alive. Buddy lost the NL5 clone.
Yeah I picked up a pack of the NL5 x Haze f4 that AKBB released not long ago, but haven't started them yet. I'm working through a bunch of catpiss stuff right now and will try some of the Black Dom and the NL5 x Haze maybe on my next run. I'm still looking for that nice hash flavor that we both remember. Someone suggested Crickets and Cicadas Black Muddy River and I have some of that going right now too. I think that's close to the same as the Black Lights you recommended to me awhile ago, with some PNW hashplant thrown in. They're about ready to flower, so we'll know soon enough if it has the goods.
 

SFnone

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We have 2 phenos of the Dynasty Genetics Super Silver Cough. 1 yields more than the other, and the other is more potent. Getting ready to can the bigger yielding one.
My friends wife calls it speed weed. Super up long lasting high. My friends wife is pretty hardcore too. She smokes more than he does. Shes been smoking 45 years. Him even longer.

Im probably going to have to also buy some of the straight NL5/Haze. Cant let those get away.

Authentic Genetics/Todd McCormick has the real deal, Original Pure Haze , from a source that got them n the 70s from Skunkman. Only thing is like he says. It varies like a MoFo, and flowering times are 16 weeks ect. Its best used for Breeding. He also has an Original Nevils Haze x Original Haze cross, and a bunch of other Original Nevils Haze crosses.

It would also be nice to again have Nevils Hashplant seed line, and Original Sk1.

If I could get the very best genetics of Original NL5/Haze, NL5, Nevils Hashplant, 80s Sk1, Id be done looking for genetics. I know the power locked in those genetics, and I smoked the same stuff from 92-97 until the feds got it, and never got tired of it, never got burned out on it, and was always happy to get it at harvest time.

For me, the 80s, and 90s genetics was the Pinnacle for the best genetics. I went from 97-2009 without smoking, and other than a killer 1994 AK47 mother my buddy kept alive for 26 years now, nothing compares to what I remember of the genetics I had the cops got.

I also have a phylos tested Chem91skva clone, and my old 90s NL5/Hz/HP//Sk1 was more potent. Considerably. It also tasted much better, and I prefer the reek of the NL5/hz/Hp/Sk1 vs the Chem91. The Haze hybrid was like the best hash taste that was ever made. Real Nepali Temple Balls.... And would show you your lungs if you tried to hold a hit. I love the Chem91 though, and is what Im smoking right now.

I also love the NL5. It is second to none of this so called newer stuff. NL5 when you have the right pheno can take you to the moon, and more. I had some so good that it gave my buddy a panic attack, and this guy is a hardcore smoker, and can smoke all night, but 20% of a good size joint made him super paranoid. I myself was on federal supervised release, and coudnt smoke, though I could grow, and was growing with a buddy. We used his place, I do all the work, and supply seeds, and lights. I took my one buddy over to the grow room, gave him the NL5 joint that I got from a buddy that grew it., as he was also my tester because I trusted his opinion, as he is very critical, and has a big tolerance. So I knew if he gets fucked up, its good. But only a small way through the joint, he was so paranoid he had to put it out, and started pacing back, and forth. It was funny. I could tell he was fucked up. The NL5 hit him Fast, and Hard. Shit creeped for an hour. He says its about as good as the 23 years old AK47 our friend has kept alive. Buddy lost the NL5 clone.
a good pheno of nl is knock out... a >5% true electric haze is the best... that is why nl/haze is almost perfect when you find the right one... for authentic genetics, i'm growing todd's o haze right now, and I can tell you, it is looking and smelling pretty damn hazy... very long flowering too... maybe not quite as nld as some plants seen in the distant past, but pretty close... and there is variation... I got one with purpling in it, not totally purple like some seen out of tom hill stuff, but it has me excited that maybe all of the legendary phenos are there... the green, the purple, the root beer... i'm really looking forward to the smoke in a couple/few months... :weed:
 

jimihendrix1

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Im debating the Consumption F2, straight NL5/Haze right now. Trying to decide on which to buy. Email response told me to get the Consumption.
He sid the plants are big, and potent.
 

Kndreyn

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Im debating the Consumption F2, straight NL5/Haze right now. Trying to decide on which to buy. Email response told me to get the Consumption.
He sid the plants are big, and potent.
I had some of the Consumption and Darien Gap going. Actually had them about 3 weeks in to flowering and something came up and I had to shut my room down for a couple weeks. The Consumption was looking much better than the Darien Gap. They looked like they were going to be some nice plants. The Darien Gap was looking like some Columbian I grew from bag seeds back in the early/mid 70s. The Consumption was a lot beefier looking than the DG. I can't comment on how they smelled because I lost most of my sense of smell about 20 years ago or so.

I'm debating on getting his So Hum Black Dom x Romulan, but I'm really curious as to why he would hype the So Hum x TKNL5Haze but then release the Romulan cross instead.
 

AlbertGSP

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So it looks like a couple of guys are talking about Waco. Americanna is half waco and half big skunk/nl1 and there is 1 pack left on James Bean. So whoever want so to pass out mid-bongrip, hit their head on the coffee table, and wake up with a couple of turds in their pocket should snatch this up ASAP and then report back to us down the road with a smoke report that hopefully will involve clean wipes and band-aids. Psychedelibud is growing it right now and said it's greasy AF.
 
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