gumball
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and this is why us "earthlings" are so narrow minded. just because we dont see it doesnt mean that it isnt there...
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and this is why us "earthlings" are so narrow minded. just because we dont see it doesnt mean that it isnt there...
gumball
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oh, and i try to be open minded to both sides of the argument. there is as much to prove as there to disprove this in most cases. but it sucks when I really want to beleive something, then I turn into my own devils advocate and make myself understand the other side of the scenario!! i like threads like this!!
Muppets On Drugs
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that is epic lol.
Dropastone
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Nice thread, I did read a few pages but I don't have the time to read through 69 pages. Anyway this may have been covered before but I have a few thoughts I would like to share.
You all want to really know the truth. You need to watch ancient aliens on the history channel. They've come out with all new episodes. Episode 5 airs Tuesday at 8PM. Each episode is 2 hours long with tons of information that will make you believe. Let me tell you this is a must watch series. If you don't believe, you will believe or you will at least sway opinion that we are not the only life form in the universe.
Feeble minds have feeble thoughts. Imagine if you will, a race of intelligent beings on another world within our own galaxy or even in another galaxy. What if these aliens are were around for a billion years before we ever existed. Just imagine what their technological capabilities could be. Ohh that's right you couldn't Imagine that because most peoples minds are so feeble that they could never imagine it possible to travel through space and time to visit other worlds.
Just because we can't do it (yet). Doesn't mean other advanced alien civilizations can't.
Set your DVR and watch the series on history channel, you won't regret it.
Peace
You all want to really know the truth. You need to watch ancient aliens on the history channel. They've come out with all new episodes. Episode 5 airs Tuesday at 8PM. Each episode is 2 hours long with tons of information that will make you believe. Let me tell you this is a must watch series. If you don't believe, you will believe or you will at least sway opinion that we are not the only life form in the universe.
Feeble minds have feeble thoughts. Imagine if you will, a race of intelligent beings on another world within our own galaxy or even in another galaxy. What if these aliens are were around for a billion years before we ever existed. Just imagine what their technological capabilities could be. Ohh that's right you couldn't Imagine that because most peoples minds are so feeble that they could never imagine it possible to travel through space and time to visit other worlds.
Just because we can't do it (yet). Doesn't mean other advanced alien civilizations can't.
Set your DVR and watch the series on history channel, you won't regret it.
Peace
Padawanbater2
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Not what I said at all. Observations are not limited to sight.
All you guys who believe aliens have visited Earth are saying you believe it because of all the evidence.
I'm saying - SHOW ME SOME!
What is the most convincing piece of evidence to you that makes you believe this theory? Share it with me.
Dropastone
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I've been a firm believer in extraterrestrials for a very long time now. The best convincing piece of evidence that I can provide to you, is to watch the show I mentioned in my previous post. It's very enlightening.
You can also find it on youtube.
Also can you give me the most convincing piece of evidence that says they haven't?
I'm not here to bash your beliefs, you can believe what ever you want and I'm fine with that. I'm just trying to spread the word.
Peace.
Padawanbater2
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Just by asking this question it shows that you don't understand the context of proof in our discussion.
What's to keep people from asking "prove to me Saturn isn't made of cheese" - why don't we take statements like that seriously? Because there is no proof to SUPPORT the idea that Saturn is in fact made of cheese. Similarly, there is no proof to SUPPORT the idea that aliens have made contact with humans, or they've landed, or they've been captured, etc. The videos on youtube aren't proof. We need peer reviewed scientific studies done. Bodies to dissect. Things to analyze. Stuff to measure..
We could not keep an alien race that had the ability to reach our planet covered up if they didn't want to be. There's not a valid reason - that I've heard - that would explain why they would come all the way here and not make themselves known. What's the reason?
Dropastone
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What is clear to me is that you that you don't know the meaning of proof. I have given it to you twice now and there are quite a few scientists speaking on the subject I present to you. When you have actually watched the info that I have clearly given to you, All five episodes, get back to me and we will have an intelligent conversation. The only proof you have given to me so far is utter nonsense. Come on man, Saturn made of cheese? There is no need to provide proof because we all know that is not the case. This is your argument, please. you will have to do better than that.
Listen man. I'm not trying to start an argument with you but it seems this is all your looking for.
Peace.
lpoolfc08
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Could you post the link to the episodes on youtude plz ?
Dropastone
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The first episode was aired in March of 2009 The episode was titled Chariots, Gods & Beyond. The second episode was aired on 4/20/2010 and covers everything in episode 1 but in better detail. Each episode contains 9 to 10 video's
Enjoy.
The 1st Episode: Chariots, Gods & Beyond can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQu62ctwcA&feature=PlayList&p=94FFE925C365432C&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1
The 2nd Episode: The evidence: can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKjUfoIoPas&feature=PlayList&p=4825B4ECAAF5EE23&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=34
The 3rd Episode: The Visitors can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOIrGoxLQaM&feature=PlayList&p=4825B4ECAAF5EE23&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=46
The 4th Episode: The mission can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVesaxxfmaY&feature=PlayList&p=95922DCD552A0260&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=9
The 5th episode: Close Encounters airs tonight on the History channel at 8 PM
Peace.
Enjoy.
The 1st Episode: Chariots, Gods & Beyond can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAQu62ctwcA&feature=PlayList&p=94FFE925C365432C&playnext_from=PL&index=0&playnext=1
The 2nd Episode: The evidence: can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKjUfoIoPas&feature=PlayList&p=4825B4ECAAF5EE23&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=34
The 3rd Episode: The Visitors can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOIrGoxLQaM&feature=PlayList&p=4825B4ECAAF5EE23&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=46
The 4th Episode: The mission can be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVesaxxfmaY&feature=PlayList&p=95922DCD552A0260&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=9
The 5th episode: Close Encounters airs tonight on the History channel at 8 PM
Peace.
Wild
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People put the LN Monster down to being an ancient old Plesiosaur and Bigfoot as a surviving Sivapithicus or Giganteopithicus (please mind my spelling), but these are the only ideas on how these fables could be proved. To me, this is very highly improbable, as most paranormal and mysterious strories are.
When I say UFO I am talking of Unidentified "Flying" Objects, not the stereotypical relation to aliens. I agree some or (perhaps) all are not really there or have an explanation, but when hundreds or thousands see the same craft-like object hovering gradually over a city, it does raise certain questions of what exactly is causing that convincing image in the sky.
The mind only recieves images of what it wants to see and sees what it understands. As for God-like capabilities, to our ancestors, some technology we can produce today would astound them, if 'ancient astronauts' had known how to generate electricity or anything they may have been taken as higher forms of life.
They've crashed and been captured? I've always been skeptical about the whole Roswell story and any others similar. Infact I don't read into any of the constant conspiracies relating to "The Government", partly because it's always about the American government and partly because I don't believe (if the hypothetical aliens did visit) that they'd be THAT much better equipped to deal with the situation than your average elderly residence home.
Think outside the box as Lightning said. We may be an experiment of theirs like bacteria is for us (including the scale of size and time). We may be their offspring or their entertainment. Perhaps they have a grand, unimaginable, divine plan, perhaps waiting till we're advanced enough to join with them. Maybe they keep an eye over us to make sure we will not take war to them (after all, the MOD orders that all UFOs are to be shot down) or bomb one another again. Maybe they themselves are what we percieve as ghosts! It's possible that we're a part of their race, left here and they protect us. I don't know but if intelligent aliens visiting Earth are real, their reasons and intentions are likely far beyond our understanding. I can only guess the most ridiculous scenarios.
So they don't disturb our natural course, just as we shouldn't really be disturbing all other life around us. If they made contact, the world would likely devote themselves, altering which fields we spend money in and how we go about our daily lives, it would probably send the world into mass hysteria. Perhaps discovering their existence is the answer to the ultimate question, maybe we're not yet worthy for them, or we could corrupt their health due to differences in the immune system.
Why would they want to? Maybe they're already exploiting our planets resources without us even noticing. It may be the case that the visitors have no understanding of or no means of violence, or no needs for dominance (like the competitive, power hungry personalities our ape-like ancestors left us). A different planet would create very different life (for example - If evolution on Earth went back to the start now, there's a strong chance that Homo Sapiens would never re-appear).
To Learn! The point written into a sentient species brain is to adventure and understand. It is likely that they would study us, we would if we came across a primitive intelligent species here or anywhere. Why do we travel such long distances to research nature for what many (the more unfortunate) people in this modern civilized world consider pointless? Speaking comparitivly, a round the world boat trip or plane flight using the height of our technology would be the same scale journey as their vehicular travel for their superior technology.
I'm talking entirely hypotheticaly here, I'm not claiming any proof that extra-terrestrial life has visited here before, nor do I 100% believe it possible, however I feel there is some compelling coincidences which would fit in with the theory, wether it's anywhere near reality is a matter of time and discovery. If people just followed what is taken as definate truth, we would still be supressed by religion and outlawed Cannabis (which come to think of it is rather alien, but let's not get into that). It takes somebody to think outside of the box to discover a future fact.
Dropastone
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@ wild. I couldn't have said better myself. +rep
Padawanbater2
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Dude, go read my posts in this thread. As I told the other guy, a scientist is not interested in "maybe" or "what if" ideas. They are only interested in the data that is available to test and measure. The evidence and proof that can be calculated and analyzed. What do you have to support anything you just said?
"Think outside the box" is not proof or evidence of anything, it's just speculation. We can sit here and speculate on things all day long and guess where it'll get us at the end of the day... the same exact spot we're in right now. That's why I keep mentioning how it's pointless to bring these things up because without anything at all to support them, that's all they are, that's what they remain, just ideas.
"Think outside the box" is not proof or evidence of anything, it's just speculation. We can sit here and speculate on things all day long and guess where it'll get us at the end of the day... the same exact spot we're in right now. That's why I keep mentioning how it's pointless to bring these things up because without anything at all to support them, that's all they are, that's what they remain, just ideas.
Dropastone
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Wild
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Well there's my disclaimer. At no point have I claimed that anything iv'e said so far is pure fact, I haven't even said it's likely, but it is technically possible (no matter how miniscule a chance you think it). As for thinking out of the ordinary model, it was, is and will always be vital to the progression of truth and science. Had Greek philosophers not "sat and speculated all day long", we would have had far less advances in the whole field of physics, had Mendelev not dreamt of his elemental ideas, we would not have the Periodic Table, without the hopeless attempts of Astrology and Alchemy, we would be further behind in Astronomy and Chemistry, etc etc etc. It is speculation that gives rise to fact, for only from an initial, radical idea can it's subject be tested and discovered/understood or rendered obsolete.
I understand you dismiss this theory due to a lack of evidence, however you are yet to show any significant evidence to prove the thought wrong. For as long as no man alive has strong, indisputeable evidence for either side, the debate will continue, but the more alternative argument will always see less publicity, time and support.
Cheers. Thanks for linking the videos, I will watch them in the morning.
Dropastone
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Anytime Wild. I'm just trying to spread the truth to unbelievers.
Peace.
Peace.
dtRepeat
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yeah, i agree. it really opens your eyes to how large the universe and how tiny we are in it. just like the ending to the second men in black movie lol
i once asked my 8th grade science teacher weather in his opinion, did he believe in aliens and other beings outside out solar system, and he explained that "our solar system is comprised of large baulders and planets. it reaches thousands of mils long. looking out past our own solar system, we can see there are thousands of more solar systems beyond us, some as large or larger than ours. the idea that we are the only intelligent lifeform in all these systems combined is impossible."
i smiled when i heard and concidered this. its quite a great thought.