Aliens

skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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ViRedd said:
"i found that faith followed me, not faith in a god who i knew didnt exist but faith in species. the realisation of my insignifigance was extremely humbling, the notion that we are all one entity was empowering- surely this couldn't be, had i had a non-religious "religious" experience?"

Personally, I honestly don't believe that a person needs "religion" in order to have a spiritual experience. And yes ... I'd say that you had a non-religious, "religious" experience. I've had the same experience as well. The realization that "we" are all one entity is quite remarkable.

Vi
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I've had the same realisation, only I've also realised that we aren't there yet.
 
medicinaluseonly

medicinaluseonly

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skunkushybrid said:
I've had the same realisation, only I've also realised that we aren't there yet.
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What makes you thunk that? Wars And such, political situations around the globe, Famine , poverty, Yup, there are a few indicators, I guess there is enough sand for the head burriers though, think positive!
 
Doobie006

Doobie006

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big buddy said:
the validity of any argument should be based on reason and fact, in this case faith is left to the side and hasn't a leg to stand on. you cant argue faith with fact or vice versa because the basis of each are a million miles apart.having said that- i believe in evolution because like it or not it has been proven. as a child i was very involved in the church, i didnt lose my faith until my teens, it was very hard to come to terms with at first but i felt truly reborn when i finally let go. but i found that faith followed me, not faith in a god who i knew didnt exist but faith in species. the realisation of my insignifigance was extremely humbling, the notion that we are all one entity was empowering- surely this couldn't be, had i had a non-religious "religious" experience?
i put it down to faith not being owned by religion or explained by science(yet!) i wont bore you anymore with this, i have basically paraphrased many years of questioning. lets heat this thing up!
alright believers- explain the dinosaurs? how old is our planet? have you heard of the genome project?
plenty more where that came from!
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Hey Big Buddy,
I believe we shared very similar experiences. I too felt reborn when I let go of the beliefs that I was programed with as a child. I was liberated from my ignorance. I came into the realization that I didn't need fairy tales to tell me that there's more to life than what we experience. All one has to do is look at the facts, and it becomes clear that reality is stranger and far more amazing than any fairy tale humanity has came up with.
 
Doobie006

Doobie006

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The realization that "we" are all one entity is quite remarkable.

Vi

We are after all not inhabitants of the universe, We ARE the universe. We are made up of it and vice versa. We are in fact, a way for the universe to know itself.
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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That's how I felt too. I likened it (in a post on my religion thread) to being reborn. I know exactly what you are talking about. What I meant by us not being there yet was that we have not yet achieved Godhood and ergo total oneness.
 
medicinaluseonly

medicinaluseonly

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For one that doesn't believe in God, how could you achieve "Godness"? If you believe in "Godness", you must believe in God, whatever form you see him as. It doesn't make sense to say I don't believe in God But I might reach "Godness"! Either way I'd say we're all a long way from any "Godness" showing up on this planet without some cataclysmic occurence. My only suggestion is to try and live life to the best of our ability and not harm another human being, be generous and Kind, and don't take any wooden nickles!
 
medicinaluseonly

medicinaluseonly

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skunkushybrid said:
I believe that it is man that will be God, not that one already exists.
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Now thats an Ego for you, man invents God! There was a philosopher, can't recall his name, That said "If there was no God, Man would invent one", I guess he wasn't lying. My dear friend skunky, I'm afraid it'll be way past our lifetimes before Man and God are one. Can you think of a fraction so small to equate man to God, I'd run out of pages before I could add all the zeros to that fraction. Man has the spirituality inherant in him to get there, but at this time and space it is way too unrefined, we're talking maximum- minimum, this is the war planet. You have to get over war in order to move on. If you still have hate in your heart, My philosophy says you keep coming back untill you can break free of it. I'm getting real sick of war, but don't know whether I've gotten over it yet or not, I've still got some real hate issues!
 
skunkushybrid

skunkushybrid

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God is our future not our present. You guys are still continuing to misinterpret the bible's real message. The bible was written by philosophers... a little like the laughable Nostradamus... anybody can philosophise on the evolution of man, and as history usually repeats itself over and over again it becomes relatively easy to predict the future especially when you do it in parables. Astrologers do it all the time, Tarot Readers, you name it...

True understanding of who and what we really are is the only way forward for man. To continue believing in a God and eternal life in heaven is really not needed anymore. We know right from wrong, the sooner we start being real the better.
 
skunkushybrid

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Well it seems there is a challenger. Someone that believes aliens visit earth all the time to kidnap people and experiment on them. I had to dig quite deep to find this thread, and although the chat about aliens died pretty quickly, it seems there is someone on this site that can reinvigorate it.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

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skunkushybrid said:
Well it seems there is a challenger. Someone that believes aliens visit earth all the time to kidnap people and experiment on them. I had to dig quite deep to find this thread, and although the chat about aliens died pretty quickly, it seems there is someone on this site that can reinvigorate it.
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That someone is me.

skunkushybrid said:
War and sickness are the only two I can come up with.
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This is where you apply the human thought process. The only reasons you can think of are irrelevant to an alien civilization. They have things going on we could never begin to understand. Who knows why they do what they do.

skunkushybrid said:
If WE found another planet out there and the inhabitants were much less advanced, what do you think we would do?Do you think we might strip that planet of all it's resources to feed our technological advancements? If the inhabitants fought back do you think we'd destroy them?
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Absolutely positively yes to all of those, IF the U.S. government has anything to do with it. You see what they do here on our own planet. They would go stark raving mad with a newly discovered, easily manipulated race of whatevers. If they fought back then they would annhialate them just like they did the Native Americans so long ago when "The New World" was discovered on the other side of the ocean.

skunkushybrid said:
You want to see aliens? look no further than our own planet and the creatures that live within it. Ants, sharks, birds etc, are these not what life on other planets could be like? In other words, not intelligent enough to see past their next meal
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These are not aliens when they are on our planet, however I do not see why there could not be these same things on other planets. It is said that most alien species resemble life on Earth.

skunkushybrid said:
The odds of there being life even close to our galaxy are extremely high. Let alone talking about life intelligent enough to travel millions of light years just to kidnap a few people for pointless experiments
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This is the most narrow minded statement I have ever heard. How do you know what is possible within our own galaxy? The Milky Way houses not just our solar system, but at least 200 billion more stars, and you're saying there is no way there is life there other than us? Are you sure you're not holed up in Texas somewhere with President Bush and his right wing religous fanatics? That has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

How do you know how far they travel to get here? For all we know they may be coming from Mars. There have been hundreds of pictures recently released of the surface of Mars showing many things that are not natural. Google "Mars Anomales" and see for yourself. You think the experiments are pointless. You assume they travel here just for shits and giggles? I doubt that they would abduct people and do whatever they do if their was no point. Maybe they need something from us, who knows. I don't claim to have all these answers, I just believe that they have been here and continue to come here.

skunkushybrid said:
To travel those sort of distances they would need to use worm holes, stabilised worm holes; as to create something like this takes the power equivilent to something like what our sun produces.
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Assuming that they are traveling great distances, how do you know what they need to do? Now you are applying human limitations to them. Maybe they know something we haven't figured out yet about propulsion. Like I said before, they probably have a couple billion, or million, or thousand years on us in terms of evolution. Either way, they obviously
(in my opinion) are getting here somehow.

skunkushybrid said:
Also why have people's accounts of these aliens changed to match movie depictions of these aliens? In the 1950's it was little green men that look like something out of a 50's sci fi movie, 60's again images followed what people were seeing in the movies. now we've got the modernised aliens, how come nobody gets kidnapped by little green men anymore?
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The very first reported case of abduction was Sep. 19 1961 by Betty and Barney Hill. They described their abductors as "Small beings with whitish skin and cat like eyes". There have never been ANY reports of abductions by "little green men". That was 1950's Hollywood slang. Are you that old? Do your homework before blurting statements.

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Zekedogg

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Erniedytn said:
That someone is me.



This is where you apply the human thought process. The only reasons you can think of are irrelevant to an alien civilization. They have things going on we could never begin to understand. Who knows why they do what they do.



Absolutely positively yes to all of those, IF the U.S. government has anything to do with it. You see what they do here on our own planet. They would go stark raving mad with a newly discovered, easily manipulated race of whatevers. If they fought back then they would annhialate them just like they did the Native Americans so long ago when "The New World" was discovered on the other side of the ocean.


These are not aliens when they are on our planet, however I do not see why there could not be these same things on other planets. It is said that most alien species resemble life on Earth.



This is the most narrow minded statement I have ever heard. How do you know what is possible within our own galaxy? The Milky Way houses not just our solar system, but at least 200 billion more stars, and you're saying there is no way there is life there other than us? Are you sure you're not holed up in Texas somewhere with President Bush and his right wing religous fanatics? That has to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

How do you know how far they travel to get here? For all we know they may be coming from Mars. There have been hundreds of pictures recently released of the surface of Mars showing many things that are not natural. Google "Mars Anomales" and see for yourself. You think the experiments are pointless. You assume they travel here just for shits and giggles? I doubt that they would abduct people and do whatever they do if their was no point. Maybe they need something from us, who knows. I don't claim to have all these answers, I just believe that they have been here and continue to come here.



Assuming that they are traveling great distances, how do you know what they need to do? Now you are applying human limitations to them. Maybe they know something we haven't figured out yet about propulsion. Like I said before, they probably have a couple billion, or million, or thousand years on us in terms of evolution. Either way, they obviously
(in my opinion) are getting here somehow.



The very first reported case of abduction was Sep. 19 1961 by Betty and Barney Hill. They described their abductors as "Small beings with whitish skin and cat like eyes". There have never been ANY reports of abductions by "little green men". That was 1950's Hollywood slang. Are you that old? Do your homework before blurting statements.

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Oh Snap, say WORD again!!!:peace:
 
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krime13

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Earth is on the edge of milky way and usualy avoided by most space travelers like some dangerous junk yard,LOL, no seriously, once our television waves will reach the center of our galaxy we should fully expect a fuu blown erradication attempt by a far more superior race...wwho would want us as neghbors anyway?
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

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OK it would't let me type anymore in the last box.

skunkushybrid said:
Of course a couple of hundred thousand people can be wrong. People are idiots, always will be.
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One report in the last 50 yrs---hoax or attention seeker, 10 reports in the last 50 yrs---still not believeable, 100 reports in the last 50 yrs---getting interesting, but there have been over 750 reports since March of THIS YEAR ALONE of UFO sightings in just the US. Add that to all the reports over the last 50 yrs, and with all the reported abductions, and I'm sure you will get some kind of astronomical number. Now your telling me that each and everyone of these people are seeing things that are not there, crazy, or whatever? I'm sure there are quite a few loons in there, but not every single one of these reports can be explained away so easily. Individual people are smart, the public as a whole is completely moronic, and it is people like you who influence this general way of thinking.
 
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krime13

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For now alliens is big buisness , I would assume that the most abductees just whant to jump on the band vagon
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

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See that is the thing. I'm not saying they come here for the sole purpose of abducting people. Yes, there probably are people out there trying to jump on the band wagon, but what about back in the day when there was no bandwagon? You think that Betty and Barney Hill just woke up on Sep 19, 1961 and said "Hey--Lets make up this story about how we got taken into a UFO and probed by aliens." I doubt that seeing as how there was no talk of that sort of thing back then. People who even mentioned the word UFO were criticised beyond belief.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

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skunkushybrid said:
No, although Aliens could well have been responsible for the extinction of the dinosaurs. Cro Magnon did not arrive on the Earth until 60, 000, 000 years after the dinosaurs were wiped out. The time scale is too large. Also for there to be two planets in the same galaxy at the same time with intelligent life is hard to accept.

Cro-Magnon man only arrived around 65, 000 years ago, coinciding with the warming of the last ice age.

If it IS the case (remember, I only wrote a story) that we (cro-magnon) came from Mars then it must have happened around this time scale. The unexplained shift from neanderthal to cro-magnon happened around 65, 000 years ago.

I actually read once that cro-magnon were supposed to be the bastards of every tribe (neanderthals) that were sent away, exiled to colder climates. This was a scientific theory, and quite laughable as it implied that we all somehow banded together after evolving completely differently and overthrew the Neanderthals. This is not true, and it is believed now that Cro-magnon and Neanderthals could and did breed.

My story encompassed this theory which was just a mish mash of things I had read. Like I said, it was just a story, I'm not a fanatic or anything.
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So I never responded to this either.

You are probably right about the time line, I can't argue with you about that as I have not fully researched it.

Why is it so hard to accept that there could be two planets at the same time with life? Once again, Google "Mars anomales" and see what comes up. I am absolutely positive there is life on Mars at this very moment.

Maybe the Neanderthals were sent away as bastards because they were the aliens first attempt at creating man, and they did not like the results.

The fact that you even wrote this story is what led me to believe that you have an open mind about this subject. Are you afraid of what really might be out there, yet at the same time intrigued? I have to agree with you on the fact that most people involved in this subject are complete fruitcakes, but I have never personally been abducted, nor can I say I have actually seen a UFO that I could prove, but I still believe in them nonetheless. Like previousley stated by myself and someone in the other thread, there is more proof that they exist than not.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

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skunkushybrid said:
You have to ignore me because you cannot back yourself up. you want me on your alien fruitcake site so you can get all you little pissant buddies to join in along with you. Maybe because you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

You are afraid of my questions because you have no answers for them. you say you believe, but you have no reasoning for this belief except other people's bullshit stories. Unless, you have one of your own of course, lol.

You don't have to prove shit to me, no. As there is nothing for you to prove. We both know you're full of shit.
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Now for this one.

I was going to ignore you because you are very belligerant in your posts. You blurt your opinion and expect that everyone else is assenine for not believing the same thing. I asked you to the other site so we could do this, but you have provided a thread to do so in, so disregard the previous invitation.

I am not afraid of your questions, and I can answer just about anything you throw at me. If I cannot then I will say so. I don't pretend to know about things.

There is plenty to prove. I think that it is you sir, who is full of shit.:blsmoke:
 
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