alrighty vaping pens.. what do you guys think of this

I have to put down the J, my words came out jumbled, lol Pot I love the stuff!
DZ

Dogenzengi said:

Alcohol evaporates at 160 degrees F so maybe fumes from the alcohol buzzed you up?

(still a dumb way to make liquid for pen with anything not food grade)

As I have read and tested myself Alcohol based oil is better when made it is with Grain alcohol instead of with 90% ISO.

food grade Glycerin and food grade propylene glycol are used alone or mixed with hash oil to make the liquid for the pen refills.

recipe is on the net, just look up "refilling e cig cartridges".

subtitute nicotine for hash Oil.

Maybe you could vaporize Alcohol and feel it, it would not be the same as drinking booze.

Just like smoking pot and eating food with pot in it have two totally different highs.

OP,
sorry if your post got hijacked!
I think you know the answer.
Good Luck to ya!
Bless,
DZ

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this is the pen:

That's just a variable battery like the ego-t uses,I have that battery from vaporall. Can't really see the tank but looks like your standard tank.

You do NOT add ISO to the mix, the feeling you are feeling is indeed the alcohol vapors. The e liquids are vegetable glycerin and propane glycerin. VG//PG for short. You can buy the liquid WITHOUT flavor so you can dilute it with your wax/oil. You can still add wax/oil to flavored ones as well. You can also simply just add straight oil and cut out "the filler"shall we call it. And these tanks are actually "recommended"to be changed every two Weeks. They are disposable and reason to throw away is for flavor reasons.

Yeah..Only glycerine is necessary to create a solution that is fit for producing water vapor.

Some add flavors, like blueberry, etc etc..

If they are concerned with the atomizer, simply use iso to clean the atomizer after depleting a filled cart.
Isopropyl alcohol is denatured and is a poison to the body.

Besides...a new atomizer is pretty cheap.

You may be able to buy a” conversion kit” also..

Instead of using the traditional atomizer, with a point that creates water vapor via the solution in the cart, most pens on the market currently have an accessory that replaces the atomizer with a coil heating element.

The cart is removed for optimal air-flow, allowing for a larger ” hoot” as you Canadians say, eh?..lol..

It's kind of a bitch though, at least mine is, I can only load up one dab at a time, maybe 2 small ones.

How the F DO YOU make the vg and the oils mix together? I mix it up no heat. I get chunks. Not really a stable solution.

I.add heat. Mix it up. L
Mixing while letting cool down.. and after over night. I have a separated solution of vg and oil.. I can't get the two to combine,!! This makes me think that's how the alcohol could help.. maybe the alcohol helps thin it out for them? And ya. They sell narly unhealthy stuff that gets people high..

But. Anyone know how I can get the two to mix?

As far as I know, the pg is what thins out the vg to make it possible but I could be wrong. I have some e-juice and oil, I'll try to combine the two and see how it goes. the e-juice I have is a vg/pg mixture.

It's a shitty way in general to vape THC. The only reason you use pg or VG is because of the tank system. I can't believe this topic came up again lol. Is was the whole reason I even started making BHO was because of someone telling me about these pens. I've made glycerin and propylene glycol tinctures to vape in these pens. Nothing compares to the pens where you just load straight concentrate into them. It's literally the difference between taking one hit vs 40.

what is pg? vg is vegetable glycerin?

and, he asked... with that coil element attachment.. is it still vaping/discreet. or does that become smoking or what?

cant lie guys. tried a few vaporizersa. i swear by my gpen! love it! nothing compares to the rig but the pen is next in line..love it!

jason. please post your pen model exactly, and what is your mixture exactly. how do you get it to smoke nicely without burning out atmoizers.

3:1 with veg glycerin?

thanks.

vacpurge said:

what is pg? vg is vegetable glycerin?

and, he asked... with that coil element attachment.. is it still vaping/discreet. or does that become smoking or what?

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PG is propylene glycol. I have a coil attachment that is discreet and one that is not at all (it's a glass globe). I take the discreet one at work and use it. When I need to refill it I just go to the restroom lol.

Vp..

With replacing the standard atomizer with a coil element, it's pretty close to dabbing a hit off the nail.

It reacts the same exact way, except the oil is placed on the element at room temp. You screw the thing back together. Push button and inhale.(The physical act of inhaling actually triggers the oil into vapor.)

I basically refer to it as” my portable nail”..

Again, usually only one good sized dab will fit on the coil.

It's got it's pros and cons like everything else.

yeah I dont think theyll like that... its for them not me.

anyways, I sent him packing with about 200ml of everclear that I recommend to mix with his oil instead of fuckin ISO. I know its still not the best answer, but hopefully its not gonna hurt them as much and hopefully this little pen fad of theirs dies out in 2 months and theyre not vaping mixes of 50:50 BHO and everclear anymore.

vacpurge said:

what is pg? vg is vegetable glycerin?

and, he asked... with that coil element attachment.. is it still vaping/discreet. or does that become smoking or what?

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PG = propylene glycol. Pg is a little harsher than VG but carries a better flavor with less vapor. It is also slightly thinner than VG so it "wicks" a little better in the coil and doesn't gum it up as much. PG is a petroleum byproduct. PG is a better solvent than VG.

VG = vegetable glycerin. Is smoother with more vapor but less flavor. It is also thicker than PG so it doesn't "wick" as well. VG is a organic vegetable based product.

People combine the two to get the best of both. Smokers are looking for that "throat hit" which PG gives as well as better flavor. VG gives more vapor which combined with throat hit is closer to smoking. Both of these liquids are used in e cigs so that's why people are trying to duplicate the sensation of smoking. Thinning VG with PG lets the liquid wick better and allows the maker to control the variable pros and cons.

Ive made both and blended both. I've used BHO and steeped straight flowers. Both do not have enough concentrated amounts of THC to get medicated from one hit. You seriously need like 20+. With my micro g I pack straight concentrate and take one and done. It is far superior to tank systems or cartomizers where you are basically vaping tincture. I hope that clears a few things up.

Guzias1 said:

maybe the alcohol helps thin it out for them? And ya. They sell narly unhealthy stuff that gets people high..

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hey! vacpurge, did you ever get the full secret formula? is it X parts oil mixed with X parts alcohol only? what kind of alcohol?

thankssssssss

no I didnt. ill text him and get it.

holy shit i just laughed my ball off at this tell them to follow these instructions switching the nicotine extract with BHO and done if need be cut the BHO with a lil vg at the begining if it is super thick when all is said and done you drip it into your cartomizer like any other e liquid. is this the most effective method NO will it get you high YES but most of all it will stop your idiot friends from frying there brain smoking ISO

i was to busy laughing i forgot to post the link http://misteliquid.co.uk/blog/how-to-make-your-own-e-juice/

... hmm, my man, mr professor, have you personally made a hash e juice?

here is where i run into problems..

my VG mix separates from my oil..

here are my ingredients/runs: XJ-13 winterized taffy, Vegetable Glycerin, 190 Everclear.

6 parts oil (1 fluid ounces of oil)
3 parts VG (.5 fluid ounces of vg)
results: heated to about 150F, mixed, cooled while mixing, mix separated.

6 parts oil
6 parts vg
results: heated to about 150F, mixed, cooled while mixing, mix separated.

6 parts oil
3 parts vg
2 parts everclear
results: almost got it to mix!
test smoke: good vapor hits, smooth, wish it had more of a kick though.

12 parts oil
6 parts VG
6 parts everclear
results: holding mix! but quite the heavy alcohol stench.. consistency thin-ish
test smoke, really good hit, a couple deep inhales gots me feeling good. aint no dab, but shit is so sneaky, along with just constant all day vape.. good taste and high.

im going to try and evap off some everclear, hopefully dont get too much of a thick sludge, if it gets too thick to use the filler syringe, I'll add some drops of water..

ya, thats where i am, anyone else care to share tests?

the goal is to make a thin enough consistency hash juice.. for e -cigs...