Always struggle in seedling stage

Aapoo

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Fucking promix...
Yeah? Bad experiences or heard? First time for me, was available in huge quantities and I've seen it in just about every greenhouse I've been in so thought I'd give it a shot. Mebbe I should be stuck with FF, eh? Maybe so...
 

Aapoo

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Yes! That's one of the 2 seeds I bought online, can't recall which one right now it's either the Hindu Kush or the white widow
All of them except for o,ne that are planted right now are one of the two I thought it strange that that plant looks so different from the others
 

Hygropia

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Sf1000 x2 one is cheaper version and 2 GE led tubes, yes
I don't know about the tubes but looks too much light and no need to have side lighting yet, if it all. One sf1000 directly above all of those grouped together would be fine at that stage for them to recover and stretch out. Need at least 16-20" and I'd go 24-30" height to start with if on full power. Add the second as they outgrow the space and start reaching. Also need humidity up and good temps for growth, especially using LED.
 

BucketGrower

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I don't know about the tubes but looks too much light and no need to have side lighting yet, if it all. One sf1000 directly above all of those grouped together would be fine at that stage for them to recover and stretch out. Need at least 16-20" and I'd go 24-30" height to start with if on full power. Add the second as they outgrow the space and start reaching. Also need humidity up and good temps for growth, especially using LED.
I was thinking the same thing. Back the lights off and let them relax a bit.
 

Aapoo

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Will go farther. Doesn't look like the distance you said, now that I'm looking at it on phone.
 

Aapoo

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So the two little bag pots are due for a drink and an upgraded pot. Light in weight now with roots coming out holes in bottom. When I do, should I water with this spring water I have? It's ph is 8.25 out of container, I'm wondering if that would help rebalance the medium that surrounds the roots....or should I take it down to 6.5? Anybody tried either of these, if you've had this type of problem? Or am I the only bonehead in the world...
 

Aapoo

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I haven't watered to run-out at all yet. When I do water it is when they are light weight, not at any other time. But still, considering all things.....
 

Hygropia

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Damn just couldn't keep still enough to lose the blur..but....
I can't quite tell in photos but are they on a narrow table or is it possible to group them under the light a little more? If you don't mind the power usage by all means use the two for better coverage in a row but even at 30% power and say 24" would likely be more than enough until they perk up and you resolve any other issues. As they recover, slowly increase power and also use to control your node spacing. If leaves bow down or burn at tops, or node spacing becomes too tight and bunch as if they don't want to grow upwards, back off on power. If the leaves aim upwards and nodes are a nice spacing for flower, you're at a good place and can increase wattage to max as you get into flower. I don't know exact spec of your lights off hand so much is rough guideline based on these type 100w lights. A par map off one of the yt guys will give you exact heights and intensity to aim for at different stage. Peace
 

Aapoo

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Its a ledge I created to make use of this space. Underneath it is some ducting for my forced-air heating. Wich isn't in use right now but it's an intake anyway. I did consider taking them down again and putting them grouped together more under the panel. Idk what I'm gonna do when they get bigger though, found out I lost my outdoor grow space where I didn't have to have them locked up. Only way I can grow them outside at my apartment is if I have it locked up wich is just about impossible to do and get adequate light, imo.
 

Aapoo

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I can't quite tell in photos but are they on a narrow table or is it possible to group them under the light a little more? If you don't mind the power usage by all means use the two for better coverage in a row but even at 30% power and say 24" would likely be more than enough until they perk up and you resolve any other issues. As they recover, slowly increase power and also use to control your node spacing. If leaves bow down or burn at tops, or node spacing becomes too tight and bunch as if they don't want to grow upwards, back off on power. If the leaves aim upwards and nodes are a nice spacing for flower, you're at a good place and can increase wattage to max as you get into flower. I don't know exact spec of your lights off hand so much is rough guideline based on these type 100w lights. A par map off one of the yt guys will give you exact heights and intensity to aim for at different stage. Peace
What's a yt guy? Lol.
 

Aapoo

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They are definitely over watered buddy. You are also experiencing a nitrogen deficiency... Have you done a slurry test on soil to test ph and ppm of it??
No, how exactly is that done? Pull some soil from the pot, as close to roots as possible? Add....distilled water? Soak for some amount of time, strain and test? Coffee filter strain?
 
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