Am I the only one that noticed? (DNA Attitude xmas deal)

HookedOnChronic

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cool tom atleast u proved me wrong, most ppl on here dont

well only partially, cause those arent the seeds your getting :P hahaha

good luck to ya both and everyone else that posted
 

tom__420

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cool tom atleast u proved me wrong, most ppl on here dont

well only partially, cause those arent the seeds your getting :P hahaha

good luck to ya both and everyone else that posted
Yeah no shit it is that crossed with their skunk father.... Did you not watch the video? What do you have going on strain wise? You seem to talk down on these strains like you have some crazy shit going on in your grow op...
What strains are you growing?
 

OregonMeds

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I did watch the video. You guys don't understand breeding though. You can take the two best plants in the world and breed them, what you'll end up with is a bunch of seeds that can be any quality, with all kinds of variation between seeds. Then you take 100 to 1000 seeds and plant them and you pick the best of that lot for the qualities you seek and breed again, then you take 100-1000 plants select the best and do it again, then again, then again until most seeds that you pop come out with the same traits and quality you are looking for.

Breeders are limited by the time it takes to do all the above and the amount of plants they can actually grow. Unless this breeder has been working on these seeds for years and they're almost ready for market I still say it's only better than nothing.

If you pop them, flower them, they all come out perfect and somewhat uniform in quality etc then come back and shove it in my face, but not until then.
 

tom__420

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I am not basing an entire grow around this, I will be growing out the seeds and will not be keeping the plant unless something special shows
I have stabilized strains that I use for the main grow
These are more to try out something different for a cheap price
I couldn't care less about the uniformity of the plants or anything as long as it produces good bud
I will make sure to post some pics here when all is said and done
 

OregonMeds

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I wasn't trying to rip on you guys or anything either, for the price it's just fine and you will get some good weed out of them no doubt. I am spoiled here now with any clone I want just blocks away, but to be fair I still remember starting out with bagseed myself and always got something decent. Then years later I decided to try some top seeds and then after seeing those results kicking myself in the ass for not starting with the best stuff to begin with.

Investing in quality genetics should be top priority in any grow, as important as the light you use. Eventually you will all understand what I'm trying to say.
 

tom__420

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400 watt HPS cool tubed with carbon filter
Aeroponic system
Multiple strains from GHS, Dinafem, and DNA genetics
I understand bro lol
 
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guitarabuser

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Even if you have random traits from the offspring, I find it hard to compare the results to bagseed. I've got room to grow them outside this summer, so what the hell. It's just water and dirt. No interuption to my indoor garden.
 

Wavels

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Oregon makes some valid points regarding stabilized strains.
However there is a lot to recommend in the pursuit of hybrid vigor.


Random crosses can be lots of fun to grow out, it is a bit like rolling the dice because you never no what you are going to get...some crosses will be awful and others may be terrific.

Several years ago I received as freebies on seed orders some unknown crosses called Who's Ya Daddy.

I found about 4 or 5 different types of plants... all were good and two were fantastic. I subsequently crossed these two with some of my long time faves and the results were spectacular.

Hybrid vigor is a beautiful thing to behold!
:bigjoint:
 

Mikey Hustle

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But did any of you guys notice that they mentioned that the 30 yr old male Skunk plant raped Headband, OG kush, LA Woman, Purple Red also?


Anyone know the situation on the others? Maybe a New Years deal? lol.. Or are these seeds already on the market?
30 replys & not a damn one even attempted to answer the question... Fucking potheads.. LOLOL j/k


And Tom... NO they didnt say "rape".. But since Im positive that the female plants didnt consent to it.... They got RAPED.. LOL. I just decided to use a different word.
 

tom__420

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30 replys & not a damn one even attempted to answer the question... Fucking potheads.. LOLOL j/k


And Tom... NO they didnt say "rape".. But since Im positive that the female plants didnt consent to it.... They got RAPED.. LOL. I just decided to use a different word.
It was a short offer that ended on the 7th I answered that in my first post
 

swagger

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I saw the deal and ignored it. When a male rapes a female at random and a strain isn't actually bred to stability through a few generations of careful selection all you end up with is bagseed quality junk. Those seeds are better than nothing, but not really worth spending any time on either unless you don't have better options. It's exacly what you'll find in any bag of weed on the street the only difference is with those you know who the parents were.

They're free because they aren't worth selling.

Great post man, I couldnt agree more.
 

Boneman

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I did watch the video. You guys don't understand breeding though. You can take the two best plants in the world and breed them, what you'll end up with is a bunch of seeds that can be any quality, with all kinds of variation between seeds. Then you take 100 to 1000 seeds and plant them and you pick the best of that lot for the qualities you seek and breed again, then you take 100-1000 plants select the best and do it again, then again, then again until most seeds that you pop come out with the same traits and quality you are looking for.

Breeders are limited by the time it takes to do all the above and the amount of plants they can actually grow. Unless this breeder has been working on these seeds for years and they're almost ready for market I still say it's only better than nothing.

If you pop them, flower them, they all come out perfect and somewhat uniform in quality etc then come back and shove it in my face, but not until then.
This is EXACTLY why I stand loyally behind Serious Seeds. 5 Strains is all they produce and continue to ensure quality product and produce the most stable strains out there.
Here is their line up:
AK-47, White Russian, Kali Mist, Bubblegum, Chronic
 

Mikey Hustle

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It was a short offer that ended on the 7th I answered that in my first post

No.. About the OTHER plants they mentioned in the video. They were not in the free deal.. But these were mentioned.

These ---> Headband, OG kush, LA Woman, Purple Red

Thats what this whole post was about..
 

HookedOnChronic

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honestly mikey, i think they were stoned and couldnt remember what was all in the rooms and started throwing out names cause they were look at each other for answers lol

and yea ive heard nothing but good about serious seeds, i wanna try there white russian
 
No.. About the OTHER plants they mentioned in the video. They were not in the free deal.. But these were mentioned.

These ---> Headband, OG kush, LA Woman, Purple Red

Thats what this whole post was about..
I love that in 4 pages of this shit your the only person who ever even noticed the real point of this whole post. It has nothing to do with wether you got the seeds. If you think the seeds are going to be any good. How to properally breed or any of that crap.

THE ENTIRE POINT OF THIS THREAD IS:

Do you think they are going to release the Headband, OG KUSH, LA Woman, and Purple Red that were also crossed with this skunk as free seeds later?



And as for the claim that these seeds are no better than bag seeds I highly disagree. These are all two great strains that have been crossed together that both have strong genetics. While they most likely have not been breed for stability yet you are basically guaranteed good weed with the decent chance for GREAT weed. If you beleive the stories of how sour diesel came from diesel it was the result of basically this exact same situation. A really strong skunk male (that supposedly came from bag seeds at either a phish or dead show) accidentally pollinated some diesel plants and now we have sour diesel.

With bag seed you could be getting shit weed, good weed, and a super slight chance of great weed. And you have no real way of knowing your bag seed genetics.

While I do agree with oregonmeds statements about the importance of breeding for stability and growing with known strains that have stable genetics there is a LOT to be said about genetic variation. I mean OG 18 came from an already "stabilized" strain that then 40 more females were grown and it was considered to be the best one out of those 40. Even after the strain had been stabilized for sale and become one of the most infamous strains it was through genetic variation that they found an even better set of genetics that managed to place at the cannabis cup. From those exact genetics they crossed a 30 year old male skunk and gave away the seeds for free.... And you want to claim that those seeds are worth absolutely nothing? I just cant agree with that statement...
 

Unnk

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this is why i said experimental man fuck it ill grow em all fim the shit outa them and see what happens you know if its crap oh well im not worried bout 20 bucks lol if its good all the better i just LOVE variety
 

Boneman

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No.. About the OTHER plants they mentioned in the video. They were not in the free deal.. But these were mentioned.

These ---> Headband, OG kush, LA Woman, Purple Red

Thats what this whole post was about..
I see the misunderstanding now. I think the title of the thread misled us to the actual question. Everyone was scrambling to order the xmas deal and that talk was the "buzz" around here.
Maybe we'll see those missing x's in a new years deal. Sounds good to me :hump:

:joint: ~Boneman
 

trapper

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freak from home quote:With bag seed you could be getting shit weed, good weed, and a super slight chance of great weed. And you have no real way of knowing your bag seed genetics.....That could also happen with the multi hybrids in the concoction attitude is selling.just because you add skunk a 3 way or who really knows what hybrid into who knows what clone only s you will get everything under the sun.and most bagseed is from the hybrid pool out their,it is not just Mexican brickweed any more.if people are not worried and have the space to run 20 free seeds of multiple origins and dont care while looking for that one shineing star or whatever,my advise is then make your own,pollinate a jack herer or white russian or kali mist and you will find your a master breeder after you grow out the progeny.and you will go shit now i have 3000 free seeds that are great,but i have no space to grow them.
 
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