Amazing deal at HTG Supply!!!Just wanted some answers!

Heyy RIU! I was checkin out htgsupply.com and ran into an AMAZING deal for beginners(like me)

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=50815


and was curious....is this real!!?i was amazed and decided i wanted to buy it but im not sure exactly if they ship to Canada. Please help me out!


Cheers

i actually saw this, this morning and was like WOW im def getting it from people ive asked i heards its good so im sold on this! good luck =]

and im not sure about the shipping to canada but from what ive read this deal is real so take it while it lasts haha

mann i HAVE TO HAVE IT!!!!!!!!!! but dont know if theyll ship to canada! someone plz help!

look like a bloody good deal! get it!

well, i knew it was to gud to be true...they dont ship to Canada.. man thats heartbreaking!

have any friends in the states who could ship it to you? I dont see how that would be a problem if they are trust worthy.

nah man, dont know anyone in the states, but thats a gud idea!

look at the shipping cost.

yea ive been researching alot and i saw many useless things aswel, and i think it would be better to just buy wats needed and not waste money on stuff that doesnt matter(like the 3 gallon bags like u said!) it was pretty amazing when i saw it for the first time but i guess that buzz is over now!! i hope i can get started soon and find some gud deals . and 37 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE!?!?!?!!?!?!!?? WOW!!!

DaBeatGoezOn said:

37 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE!?!?!?!!?!?!!?? WOW!!!

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Yep, I’m OLD. When I was a kid dirt was new and dinosaurs roamed the earth and history wasn’t taught in schools because there hadn’t been any yet.

check out the agrostar 400 watt mh/hps conversion ballast, reflector, and each bulb for $230 some dollars.

thats a deal. even for a beginner.

Seems like a good deal. All you need is a cabinet and some sort of climate control for that light. I have a cheap homemade set up for that.

Ok. For indoor growing 7-15 gallon pots are way too big unless your planting multiple plants in them or are LSTing, screening, or something. 2-3 gallon up to about 5 gallon are good all depending on how long you plan on vegging and how big you want the plants to get. HTG supply is an awesome site and Ive bought many things from them. I find that if you search for what you want on ebay, HTG will sell it there a little cheaper then thier web-site actually. The main thing is you understand how much space you have and what you want to do with your space. Once you figure out the style of growing you want to do and the space you have to work with you can begin to design your room. Temperature and good ventillation are very important. I recommend fox farm ocean mix soil for first timers and I would low stress train and trim well for max top nugs and a good canopy.

oldschool420 said:

look at the shipping cost.

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Yea The shipping is the killer,,I created my own set up, and heard if you call and can get a hold of tony,,He might make some deals?

I use 3 gallon grow bags and they work fine for me. I am able to fit them together nicely and they are plenty big enough for a standard indoor grow in my opinion.

bts420 said:

Ok. For indoor growing 7-15 gallon pots are way too big

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Plants have an equal sized root mass to the size of their above ground growth. When you grow in small pots you end up with root-bound plants. When you have root-bound plants you risk the following problems.

The following symptoms may be observed if you allow your plants to become root-bound:

1. Stunted Growth.
2. Stretching.
3. Smaller and slower bud production.
4. Needs watering too often.
5. Easy to burn with low % nutrient solution mixtures.
6. Wilting.

Now I am not claiming to be the ultimate expert but I do have roughly 37 years of growing experience, our family owns a nursery, trees and bushes and not plants or taking care of kids, and four family members have botany degrees.



Believe what you wish and I will do the same.

ya if u think that is good just wait till they have there hydro package back in stock. it is so sick

Brick Top said:

I do not see it as being a super deal or a real value myself. I do not believe in smaller plants in small pots or containers and instead starting them out in the largest pot or container that will be used in the grow. The largest item included is 3-gallon grow bags and that is insufficient for growing full sized plants. I almost never grow in anything less than 7-gallon pots and like to use 15-gallon pots.

Some of what you get seems to be good but some of it is in my opinion totally unnecessary and for someone like me would never be used so in my case I think I would just purchase what is needed and what is best separately and not have to pay for, including shipping costs, for things that are not truly needed.

But that is only my opinion based on roughly 37 years of experience.

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Damn are your plants 15 ft high!! lol

Young Macdonald said:

Damn are your plants 15 ft high!! lol

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I have had plants close to being that tall outside, pure sativas, but inside I seldom let them get more than about four and a half feet or so, not counting the height of the pot.

If I have four or more plants and I let them grow larger than that things get to crowded in the area I have to work with but if I only have one or two females growing I will veg them longer and let them grow larger/taller.

The thing is that once a plants roots begin to circle the pot they are in the plant in then under stress and the more circling you get the more stress you have.

While it is impossible to predict precisely how large a plant will grow by harvest what you want to attempt to do is pick a pot size where by the time your plant is ready to harvest the roots will have only just then filled the pot, and I do not mean as in circled and circled and circled the pot creating a root-ball so dense that you could use it for a sledgehammer like I have seen many root-balls of people who grow in small pots.

Because pot plants are so rugged and resilient they can grow in most any condition but just because they can do that does not mean that when you grow in a 5-gallon pot and you end up impressed that the same plant if it had been in a 7-gallon pot would not have impressed you more and produced more and larger buds.

It took a while for me to figure things like that out. Like many here I used to grow in 3-gallon and 4-gallon and 5-gallon pots and what I ended up with seemed to be fantastic but later I learned that the more optimal of conditions you can create for your plants the better they will do.

It is not only picking a good soil and good nutes and supplying them with adequate light and water. What so many people do is go whole hog when it comes to some things and then totally ignore or skip doing one simple little thing, using larger pots, that will make a difference in the final outcome.

It is like they took a kickoff on the goal line and ran it back 90-yards and then even though there was no one to stop them they just stop on their own 10-yard line instead of running the ball into the end zone.

It just does not make any sense to me. Why go through all the effort and expense and accept the risks and then not go all the way and get the absolute most you can from your effort and expense and risks?

It is not only the additional light given by the sun that makes outdoor plants grow so well and produce so much. It is in part because their roots are not restricted, they can go deeper and deeper and farther to the sides and are never stressed like plants that are grown in pots that are to small for them.

Using larger pots makes some things easier and also gives you something of a safety net or a cushion. While the plants are still smallish, not as in just inches tall but where they have not pushed roots to the bottom of your pots you can water and allow your drip tray to fill up with water and just leave it.

The bottom of your soil is very wet, something that could and would cause a problem if your roots were that deep, but because they aren’t it not only does not cause a problem but it helps you.

You don’t have to water your plants as often, you don’t have to keep checking them and tending to them because as moisture in the upper portion of the pots is lost through evaporation and transpiration instead of the upper soil growing dry moisture from the lower portion of the pot will wick up and water for you.

It does not create an over-watering problem because the water is only wicked up at the speed it is used and it cannot build up excess moisture in the upper portion because due to gravity water always seeks an even level and only what is actually held by the soil itself will remain above the low water level of your drip trays.

Anything above that will be no wetter than if you watered and let your pots drain and then poured off the excess.

You can almost ignore your plants until they grow large enough to where there are roots down to the lower portion of the pots. If a situation arises where for some reason you cannot water for a few extra days or you somehow forget when you get back to your plants the leaves are not wilted and hanging but instead standing up firm and proud like a teenage girls tits.

If you want better healthier plants with fewer problems and bigger yields increase your pot size.