America is The Next Nazi Germany

Johnnyorganic

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The next Nazi movement has already arisen, but nationality is irrelevant because the goal of this movement is worldwide domination. Many nations have fallen under its spell already - 57 at last count. Clue: Who openly advocates eradication of Jews from the earth?

The U.S. may be fascist, but it is not Nazi. There is a huge distinction between the two and this point has emerged many times in this forum.
 

ta2drvn

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Reagan defeated Communism and won the cold war, he was considered a great patriot. Bush Sr was VP at the time saw the in's and out's. Prior to this he was in charge of the CIA and participated in and authorized all the stuff that lead up to this. He was in a position that allowed him to be 'above' the law and justify it as trying to be a Patriot. You think GW wasn't brainwashed into believing that 'the end always justify the means'?

I think the whole Bush family is jealous that Reagan got all the credit for the cold war, and they feel the real reason behind the fall was all the things Bush Sr had his fingers in and that he only had one term, only Pres out of the last four not to have a two term. This brings up another interesting thing to consider, since Reagan, the American public is just too apathetic and unwilling to let go of the status quo, this makes it much easier for politicians to get away with anything they like with little consequences if any (like a little law here or there taking away one right at a time). We should have done to Bush what Cali did to Davis!
 

REDJELLYNINJA

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Not if they shoot first! :blsmoke: I love my constitutional right... because what's wrong with protecting yourself? I'm not going to use my fists or a knife to protect my family from some guy with a gun... I'm going to use my A-15 and make sure he doesn't come back.
there aint anythin wrong with protectin yourself but if guns were illegal then nobody would be coming at you with one. the gun in america is glorified for some retarded reason. somethin that is designed for one reason only, killing, is glorified in movies and music and that glorification has spread to the rest of the world. owning or using a gun does not make you a man in my opinion, just a retard waitin to get shot. how many people in america would still be alive today if the gun wasnt legal?? :peace:
 

pandabear

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im with the guy that said enjoy the ride, life doesnt last long


i worry about old people like the mullas in iran who are old and close to thier deaths

if they care not about thier own people whats to prevent them from saying fuck it im old lets nuke isreal and get rid of them ounce and for all, who cares if they nuke us back


dont you think in a culture where people readly die on purpose that this would not happen

do u think the crazy japanese holdouts the didnt want to surender would have dropped a nuke on the usa even if they only had one and new we would nuke them back?


if theres a cazy killer in the room, do you have to become a killer too?

or will you be one who sits by and watches him kill until hes owns the place

if you become a killer to, are you wrong? or are you just doing what your calling in life is, defending yours and your own


if not then just go extinct like the rest of them and let the survivers march on to spread thier seeds

if you wanna play in life u have to kill, you have to love you have to protect and you have to defend and u must provide

this is your calling as a creature on the planet earth if u dont believe me just look around at all the animals, they know whats up, dont trip over your brain so much
 

GoodbyeFreedom

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there aint anythin wrong with protectin yourself but if guns were illegal then nobody would be coming at you with one. the gun in america is glorified for some retarded reason. somethin that is designed for one reason only, killing, is glorified in movies and music and that glorification has spread to the rest of the world. owning or using a gun does not make you a man in my opinion, just a retard waitin to get shot. how many people in america would still be alive today if the gun wasnt legal?? :peace:
Redjellyninja i see what you mean, and what you said is in theory true, but the founding fathers gave us the 2nd amendment to protect us from... THE GOVERNMENT!!! lol.

"Codification of the right to keep and bear arms into the Bill of Rights was influenced by a fear that the federal government would disarm the people in order to impose rule through a standing army or select militia,[2] since history had shown that a tyrant's ability to suppress political opponents was accomplished by simply taking away the people's arms."
 

Johnnyorganic

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there aint anythin wrong with protectin yourself but if guns were illegal then nobody would be coming at you with one. the gun in america is glorified for some retarded reason. somethin that is designed for one reason only, killing, is glorified in movies and music and that glorification has spread to the rest of the world. owning or using a gun does not make you a man in my opinion, just a retard waitin to get shot. how many people in america would still be alive today if the gun wasnt legal?? :peace:
Mexico has severe gun control laws, but the Northern border region is an open war zone. Washington D.C. had a handgun ban in place since 1976, but D.C. is the biggest, bloodiest and most violent, crime scene in America.

How many people would be dead in America today if firearms were illegal?

Your argument stem from the premise that guns are evil. A flawed premise. Guns are tools, men are evil.
 

ta2drvn

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guns r tools, men are evil...

Well put, look to other countries that have banned or severly controlled guns, people still get hands on guns, it is a difficult problem. Take em away and now the GOV is the only one with a military!!! But the right to bare arms really is to arm a Militia in case our GOV start straying too far from the IDEAL Government, we the people can join a militia a remind the Gov about our founding father idea of Gov - Stay out of the people's way and help defend them against forien dictators and give them opportunities to suceed and they will! I think we currently have power drunk idiots that forgot that the founding fathers were NOT about world domination, just about being able to live without the Gov telling them how to do it.
 

Johnnyorganic

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guns r tools, men are evil...

Well put, look to other countries that have banned or severly controlled guns, people still get hands on guns, it is a difficult problem. Take em away and now the GOV is the only one with a military!!! But the right to bare arms really is to arm a Militia in case our GOV start straying too far from the IDEAL Government, we the people can join a militia a remind the Gov about our founding father idea of Gov - Stay out of the people's way and help defend them against forien dictators and give them opportunities to suceed and they will! I think we currently have power drunk idiots that forgot that the founding fathers were NOT about world domination, just about being able to live without the Gov telling them how to do it.
As long as there are evil men there will always be deadly weapons they will use. Eliminating firearms completely is a fairy tale. As long as the bad guys have them (and they will), the good guys must have the means to defend themselves, and if necessary, fight back.

If the 2nd Amendment is a collective right as you seem to put forth (you can only have a gun if you are member of a militia), it is the ONLY one in the Bill of Rights. The other nine protect individual rights against the federal government, but not the 2nd? Could it be that the 2nd Amendment, like the 10th Amendment, does differ from the rest in that it is BOTH a collective and an individual right?

Thanks to Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, the word 'Militia' became a dirty word after the Oklahoma City bombing. I ain't joining no milita as long as Michael Moore is making films.

It is the 2nd Amendment which backs up the other nine articles, as well as the rest of the Constitution. We need only look back as far as Germany under the Nazi Party. Gun control was one of their most important early successes. It allowed them the freedom to act without fear of a popular uprising. And act they did.
 
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rev3la7ion

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The issue on gun control is a bullshit one. Us, of all people, should know that just because something is illegal doesn't mean someone can't get a hold of said illegal item. If you make guns completely illegal you're taking away a persons right to protect himself from those who don't follow the law.

Once you ban guns you'll create a black market for them. Since guns will no longer be in the hands of citizens, police and criminals will be the only ones who have them. Say this gun ban is put in place and a criminal who obtained a gun from the black market got a hold of one and broke into your house. What happens then? It's not like just because you ban guns all of a sudden they're gonna disappear.
 

Johnnyorganic

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Say this gun ban is put in place and a criminal who obtained a gun from the black market got a hold of one and broke into your house. What happens then?
I'll tell you what happens then, the same thing that happens now. AFTER it's all over the coppers will show up, secure the crime scene, take pictures, gather evidence, investigate, and write a police report.
 
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SocataSmoker

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Yep, so fuck that... it's the same case with suicide bombers. You can't stop them... if a criminal wants a gun he'll get a gun, banning them will never work and I'll never accept it, you can take my gun from my cold dead hands :)
 

ta2drvn

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Could it be that the 2nd Amendment, like the 10th Amendment, does differ from the rest in that is is BOTH a collective and an individual right?
I think they go hand in hand, if you think about it. What happens if Militia's become illegal? How do you form an Armed one, you have to have private citizens that can supply the weapons. If the citizens can't individually be armed it would make it pretty damn hard to arm a Militia.

Thanks to Bill Clinton and Janet Reno, the word 'Militia' became a dirty word after the Oklahoma City bombing. I ain't joining no milita as long as Michael Moore is making films.
MMM... Hand in hand with what I said above, think about it, they are already successfully putting it in the minds of our citizens that militia's are a bad thing, the first step in making them illegal. One less thing to worry about and one more reason to be used to ban guns, then there is NO defense against a government take over. Brainwash by making situations so bad that the they let the people make the decision so the politicians aren't the bad guys.

It is the 2nd Amendment which backs up the other nine articles, as well as the rest of the Constitution. We need only look back as far as Germany under the Nazi Party. Gun control was one of their most important early successes. It allowed them the freedom to act without fear of a popular uprising. And act they did.
AMEN Bro!!


This is an interesting topic... thanks for you impute
 

We TaRdED

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Yes you do have your own starving and homeless to deal with but when your country is spending hundreds of billions on wars looking for non existent wmd's no wonder you cant sort your own country. if the american government wants to find wmd's they only need to look in their own backyard. remember there is only one country that has ever used a wmd in an act of aggression and thats the good ol u s of fuckin a. im not worried about all the talk of terrorists coming from the far east and the muslims, im more worried about who the hell is america gonna try and control next. if the oil runs out in the middle east will they start lookin at scotland and the north sea. america is such a fucked up place with your media scaremongering and your constitutional right to own a gun (people who carry guns get shot)! eventually the world is gonna turn on america and its gonna be one hell of a shitstorm!!!:peace:
Hopefully, you guys will give us a fair warming?........:mrgreen:


I don't want to be here when/if shyt goes down..... If I was a president of another country, I would be scared for my countries best interest, too. Since Bush has been in office we have gone to war with TWO COUNTRIES because of "terrorists" that we never EVEN FOUND! HAHAHA.. (And we all know 911 was an inside job.) And if you don't know already, we are talking about going to war with Iran pretty soon, so that will be the third country pretty soon. :-|...... Apparently they harbor terrorists and could make a WMD in the next 5 years. I thought Iraq had WMD's all ready in their possession. We didn't find any WMD's, and apparently our intelligence was faulty about the WMD's. (I just lost faith in the media after learning the truth about 911.. :cry:)

When is the USA population going to wake up and look at the facts.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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We TaRdED

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MMM... Hand in hand with what I said above, think about it, they are already successfully putting it in the minds of our citizens that militia's are a bad thing, the first step in making them illegal. One less thing to worry about and one more reason to be used to ban guns, then there is NO defense against a government take over. Brainwash by making situations so bad that the they let the people make the decision so the politicians aren't the bad guys.
I have stopped watching TV (for the most part) for a couple years now. When I watch it now, it just seems like a lot of propaganda through the populations best friend- the propaganda box/TV.

Watching too much TV makes people fat. I prefer the internet where I can get other sources of info other than just FOX news or something.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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