AMORYN instead of 5 HTP?

I have no reason to take an anti-depressant but I have always taken 5 HTP when I do certain substances.
like MDMA.

just recently I have done a lot of research on [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]AMORYN. an anti-depressant and used for inducing sleep.
apparently it provides 5 HTP, vitamin B6, and hyperforin.

[/SIZE][/FONT]http://www.amoryn.com/tg_serotonin.html?gclid=COfswK3RnKcCFVln5QodrlcXcw

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I am a very light sleeper as well and have heard/read that [FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]AMORYN can help with sleep but cannot be relied upon due to its "getting used to" after a few weeks.

I also would like to have my serotonin levels back up to date.[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1] which is why I use 5HTP.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]this is the main reason I am asking this question...



[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]POSSIBLE SIDE EFFECTS
-Most people do not experience any negative side effects when taking AMORYN. Side effects, when they do occur, are typically mild.
-Mild side effects may include headache, abdominal pain, diarrhea, insomnia, fatigue, dizziness and dry mouth. Taking AMORYN with food may minimize some of these side effects.
-AMORYN may increase the skin's sensitivity to sunlight. Individuals with fair skin or extreme sensitivity to sunlight should use extra sunblock.
-When taken as directed above, AMORYN has no known serious and/or life-threatening side effects.
-Clinical research suggests that the ingredients in AMORYN are generally better tolerated than synthetic SSRIs and tricyclics.

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[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]it seems there are no negative life threatening side effects.
or at least in my opinion.


what do you all think?

[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]is AMORYN a [/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]good or bad idea for serotonin re uptake and sleep aid (ONLY FOR OCCASIONAL USE) for the occasional drug user????
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5-HTP is excellent for stabilizing serotonin levels.. but from what I read and interpreted during my years. 5-HTP does not ultimately restore depleted serotonin levels... you'll need to use other compounds to work in conjunction with 5-HTP. I believe this was discussed in a thread a year back. A plethora of good information! I'll see if I could pull it up

ndangerspecimen101 said:

5-HTP is excellent for stabilizing serotonin levels.. but from what I read and interpreted during my years. 5-HTP does not ultimately restore depleted serotonin levels... you'll need to use other compounds to work in conjunction with 5-HTP. I believe this was discussed in a thread a year back. A plethora of good information! I'll see if I could pull it up

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thank you sir.
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maybe you should do some reading on Amoryn...?

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]AMORYN increases serotonin levels in a number of ways.

First, AMORYN provides the natural amino acid 5-HTP. Your brain turns 5-HTP into serotonin, and evidence shows that taking 5-HTP directly increases serotonin levels.

Second, AMORYN provides vitamin B6, which has also been shown to increase serotonin levels.

Third, the main herbal ingredient in AMORYN, hyperforin, acts as an SRI or serotonin reuptake inhibitor. It prevents reuptake transporters from collecting serotonin, thus making the serotonin more available to the cells in the brain.

In fact, the dose of hyperforin in AMORYN (from pharmaceutical-grade St. John's Wort extract) has been proven to effectively relieve depression in over thirty clinical trials. [/SIZE][/FONT]

im confused on 5-htp. its suppose to help serotonin levels right? i tried to use this before when i was using alot of drugs(marijuana is not a drug), i used this a si was feeling very depressed alot and wanted something besides drugs to make me feel a little better. it never seemed to help and my drugs usage never changed. i used 5-htp for a few months and decided to stop wasting my money. well fast forward a decade. my body has changed alot. everything seems to be stronger to me, except lsd-dont know why still gotta take 5 hits for visuals. i dont use drugs anymore. yes i smoke alot of pot, it helps me. but i still suffer depression, anxiety, and anger issues. i get sad easily, angry way more, and am awkward in situations where i dont know people, and its not cause im high. like walking through wal-mart i feel like everyone is staring at me. which might fuckin be cause im covered neck down in tats. but ive always had this i dont give a fuck attitude. it feel to me like everyone is better at things than me, even though im quite skilled and usually do above adverage in everything, acing a few. my question is will 5-htp help me with serotonin levels if im not taking anything that could lower it?

hughesresearch said:

im confused on 5-htp. its suppose to help serotonin levels right? i tried to use this before when i was using alot of drugs(marijuana is not a drug), i used this a si was feeling very depressed alot and wanted something besides drugs to make me feel a little better. it never seemed to help and my drugs usage never changed. i used 5-htp for a few months and decided to stop wasting my money. well fast forward a decade. my body has changed alot. everything seems to be stronger to me, except lsd-dont know why still gotta take 5 hits for visuals. i dont use drugs anymore. yes i smoke alot of pot, it helps me. but i still suffer depression, anxiety, and anger issues. i get sad easily, angry way more, and am awkward in situations where i dont know people, and its not cause im high. like walking through wal-mart i feel like everyone is staring at me. which might fuckin be cause im covered neck down in tats. but ive always had this i dont give a fuck attitude. it feel to me like everyone is better at things than me, even though im quite skilled and usually do above adverage in everything, acing a few. my question is will 5-htp help me with serotonin levels if im not taking anything that could lower it?

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i dont think a supplement, such as 5 HTP won't help with this issue my dear friend...

maybe an anti-depressant will help.
but I am no doctor...

maybe you should ask a real doctor. they ALWAYS help.


good luck friend

Exactly. 5-HTP will not regulate someone's brain which has a deficient in the first place. Other revenue's will need to be explored!

I'll look into the Amoryn... and is the stuff over the counter?

i have problem with most doctors. the issue being the amount and type of tattoos i have make people give presumptions about me without talking. i used to be in a gang and still have all the tattoos cause i cant afford to remove them. every doctor has either kinda ignored me or once i talk to them feel so bad i get valium, xanax, cymbalta, seroquel, depakote er and prozac. yes i have had scripts for all these and 4 of them all at once. im tired of perscriptions that dont help and am looking toward more of a natural healing. ive started to meditate to try to focus on my issues and i end up exploding in rage after pondering such things then hit a bowl. i have seen alot of fucked up shit including my best friend carved up in a chair. i know i have alot of demons following me and a past that haunts me. i feel like im one of the soldiers who came back with post tramatic stress and isnt getting treated correctly. i look towards more natural means cause of this too. soldiers just get xanax. i dont want this type of crap. i guess substances wont help, but going to meetings and scaring the shit outta people by telling them whats on my mind doesnt help me. i cant go to meetings with other ex-gang members due to the nature of it. its like anger meetings are too light and na meetings make me feel like i dont belong. ugh. thanks tho man i appreciate the thought.

yes i do think i am naturally deficient, but none of these drug create serotonin, only block receptors from them returning therefore flooding the passageway making there only one exit, which is part of the reasons they take a while to work. but while i feel a change on them, its not a good change. i get sick. cymbalta being the worst of them all. see, if my brains not producing enough serotonin, then how can the drug help? once the flooding has happened and my brain sucks that up, i still havent created enough to flood again which in the end still creates a need for more serotonin. i dont see how any of these drugs work unless they themselves help in the production of serotonin.


sorry i dont want to thread jack. ill just leave this and if someone has any advise, please pm me.

sounds like you should drop ALL prescriptions.
stick to ONLY smoking weed.
eat very healthy.
and
if i were you. i would start working out as much as you can.

also...do things that make me you feel productive.

get into a good, solid, healthy routine.


have you ever tried a hallucinogen?
psilocybe mushrooms, LSD, DMT, mescaline...etc

if so, I'd recommend finding your inner self through these.
if you decide to park take.
please go into it with caution.

hallucinogens can UP your feelings 10 fold.
and in your case, if your mind is unstable.
tripping may cause you to go into panic.

but if you seriously want to consider doing this.
you MUST go into it with respect and care.

I have a feeling that if you took this approach in the most positive way you possibly can.
your life WILL turn around...
FOR THE BETTER.

PLEASE. if you haven't taken a hallucinogen before. PLEASE do some research and you may ask me ANY question before even thinking about taking mushrooms, lsd...etc

im quite experienced with hallucinogens. problem i have is dosage. mushrooms no matter the strain or growing medium make me violently sick halfway through. lsd takes 5+ hits for full on visuals, then my back feels like a car ran it over. i have not tried an anahayusia brew, prob spelled that wrong. i have extracted dmt, didnt remember anything either time. my hallucinogen is lsd, just kills my body.

hmmmmm.

ya.
i'd suggest stopping all prescriptions.
do at least 2 productive things a day.
have a healthy diet.
work out.
continue meditating.
and do other things that are good for the body, mind, and soul.

sorry for the thread jack, but would it be safe to take 5 htp and kanna the day after rolling?

dont know what kanna is but there is no problem with 5 htp.

taking over 100 mgs in a course of 5-6 hours WILL result in throwing up

I understand that 5 htp is recommended after rolling. Kanna (Sceletium tortuosum) is a short acting SSRI

ahhhhh!


i wouldn't do it my friend.
taking 5 htp WITH any SSRI could result in serotonin syndrome.

even though kanna is short acting it still could be possible

i have come to the realization that cannabis is the perfect distraction to help with simply...
waiting it out!!!!

waiting 2-4 weeks is THE best solution...no matter what you research on the internet

Subbed. I want to know if this helps. I don't want to see a shrink. Last time I saw one, he was a total mindfuck and didn't want to prescribe me shit. Just kept telling me to come back next week for a follow up. Digging into my pockets is what that is. Ha

5-htp can help a bit. For the most part it makes me feel more level throughout the day. Also I have noticed I can smoke a lot less when taking it as well. Other times, though, it feels as if I get agitated a lot easier too. I say just try it and see how you feel. You can get it for really cheap online for a month or two supply.

Don't discount therapists either. There are ones that specifically deal with things like PTSD. If you don't like one, fire them and find a different one.