angle aluminum vs flat

banke1

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hey why does everyone use angle alum for their frames? would two 48" pieces of 1/8" aluminum sag or droop in the middle if there are three qb's and a driver mounted to it?

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Airwalker16

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hey why does everyone use angle alum for their frames? would two 48" pieces of 1/8" aluminum sag or droop in the middle if there are three qb's and a driver mounted to it?
Because angle has more structure... And it has more surface area to sink heat.
 

nfhiggs

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hey why does everyone use angle alum for their frames? would two 48" pieces of 1/8" aluminum sag or droop in the middle if there are three qb's and a driver mounted to it?
Yes, 1/8 inch aluminum will sag. Angle aluminum will not sag, and if you get architectural angle aluminum (1/16) its lighter as well.
 

banke1

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I was going to use two pieces of 48" in order to mount three boards between them. at first I was looking at angle aluminum, but now I'm thinking about using 3/4" wide, 48"long 1/8" thick flat aluminum and then using a piece of angled alum at the ends to connect them all.
 

nfhiggs

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I was going to use two pieces of 48" in order to mount three boards between them. at first I was looking at angle aluminum, but now I'm thinking about using 3/4" wide, 48"long 1/8" thick flat aluminum and then using a piece of angled alum at the ends to connect them all.
3/4 x 1/8 flat stock may sag under its own weight at 48 inches. With three pounds of driver it will definitely sag.
 

Dmannn

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An angle on flat stock metal is called a break. The machine that bends angles in flat stock is called a break. A break creates a structural angle which keeps the material from folding. If you take it to a welding or machine shop with a large enough break tell them to give it a mire 180-15 = 165 deg angle lengthwise down the center. This will give you plenty of rigidity and provide a semi flat surface to drill holes for attachments. They will probably do it for free or like 10 bucks.
 

banke1

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I went to HD today just to check out the different options. 1/8" and 1/16" flat bars have way too much flex imo. however I think the 1/8" is overkill for the angle. 1/16" seems like it would be plenty sturdy and save some $ and be lighter and easier to handle.

when it comes to 3/4" vs 1" vs 1.25" vs 1.5", I think the 3/4" is good enough, once again saving $ and overall weight of the fixture.
 

nfhiggs

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I went to HD today just to check out the different options. 1/8" and 1/16" flat bars have way too much flex imo. however I think the 1/8" is overkill for the angle. 1/16" seems like it would be plenty sturdy and save some $ and be lighter and easier to handle.

when it comes to 3/4" vs 1" vs 1.25" vs 1.5", I think the 3/4" is good enough, once again saving $ and overall weight of the fixture.
Wanna save some more? Step out of HD and check out this place:
http://www.uaac.us/aluminum-angle-34-x-34-x-48-in-116-in-thick75in-4-ft-2-ft-new-usa

Can't believe how inexpensive these people are... Too bad they don't do heatsinks.
 

banke1

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yeah I just went to HD to get a feel for the different options. im going to contact a local warehouse service center for purchase though
 

banke1

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Ok so that website uaac.us has three different types of aluminum in the size that I want. (.75"x.75"x48", 1/16" thick)
Here are my options with total price for the quantity I need

1- Aluminum Architectural Angle : 6063-T5 type aluminum. $78

2- 3003 type aluminum angle : $61.20

3- Aluminum Anodized Angle, 5052 type aluminum "These are a fabricated angle and the color is dark bronze. These are considerbly stronger and lighter than our standard 3/4 in angle. The color is only on the outside of the angle. The inside of the angle is clear anodized." $126.36


what would you guys recommend?? (the price difference is non factor, just threw it in there)
 

Airwalker16

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Ok so that website uaac.us has three different types of aluminum in the size that I want. (.75"x.75"x48", 1/16" thick)
Here are my options with total price for the quantity I need

1- Aluminum Architectural Angle : 6063-T5 type aluminum. $78

2- 3003 type aluminum angle : $61.20

3- Aluminum Anodized Angle, 5052 type aluminum "These are a fabricated angle and the color is dark bronze. These are considerbly stronger and lighter than our standard 3/4 in angle. The color is only on the outside of the angle. The inside of the angle is clear anodized." $126.36


what would you guys recommend?? (the price difference is non factor, just threw it in there)
3003... No need for anything else. If you don't care about price though, get the perty 5052.
 

fragileassassin

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I just recently built these out of 1/2"x1/2" 1/8" angle. I wish I would have gone a little bit bigger. The tracks are 8ft long and I ended up having to put 2 cross brace pieces in to keep them from spreading apart enough for my panels to fall out.
This stuff has quite a bit of flex, I ended up having to put 4 hangers on each one to keep the tracks flat and level. This is just under the weight of boards and heatsinks, drivers are outside.
This picture is with my 2 end ties loosened so all the weight is on the middle two.
 

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