Anybody that still flushes before harvest should see this video

jonnynobody

Well-Known Member
I know most of us probably know flushing is a myth but here's solid evidence.


I believe flushing is a term invented by the nutrient companies to sell people more products they don't need. As long as you don't follow those ridiculous feed charts that suggest continuous over feeding using an array of products you don't need you should be right as rain. It always tickles me a bit when I hear some yahoo gloating about how they "push" their plants to 1500 or 1600 PPM as if that's a good thing. And they always explain the secret to their success is a 2 or 3 week flush at the end of their flower cycle. It doesn't matter which nutrient company it is. They all suggest too high a concentration of fertilizer to deplete your bottles faster, so you buy more sooner than you truly need to the detriment of your plants, burn quality of your finished product, and wallet. Oh, and don't forget the magic flush juice to remedy your over feeding. Only $19.99 a gallon. Cash, check, or money orders accepted.

I prefer general hydroponics maxi series. It's cheap, consistent, and effective. I run my plants at 800-950 PPM with reverse osmosis water. I actually get a little uncomfortable over 900 PPM. 850-880 is my sweet spot. My entire regimen is:

Maxi Grow (general hydroponics)
Maxi Bloom (general hydroponics)
Floralicious Plus (general hydroponics)
Calcium Nitrate (amazon)
Magnesium Sulfate (epsom salt)
Potassium Silicate (general hydroponics)
Molasses High Brix (earth juice)

If you are using a liquid cal-mag, stop. For less than the cost of 1 gallon of over priced cal-mag product you could buy a 10 year supply for less in powder form. Cal-mag is just epsom salt and calcium nitrate mixed into water. 5 lbs of epsom salt is about $6 and 5 lbs of calcium nitrate is about $13. You would get 20 or 30 gallons of cal-mag out of those 10 lbs of dry elements. Fuck over paying for nutrients.

I will be switching to mega crop for my base fertilize after I deplete my existing stock of maxi grow and bloom. Mega crop is a better product for about half the price of maxi grow and bloom. Floralicious Plus and the Potassium Silicate are 2 items I don't mind continuing to purchase from general hydroponics, particularly the FP.
 

Southside112

Well-Known Member
I believe flushing is a term invented by the nutrient companies to sell people more products they don't need. As long as you don't follow those ridiculous feed charts that suggest continuous over feeding using an array of products you don't need you should be right as rain. It always tickles me a bit when I hear some yahoo gloating about how they "push" their plants to 1500 or 1600 PPM as if that's a good thing. And they always explain the secret to their success is a 2 or 3 week flush at the end of their flower cycle. It doesn't matter which nutrient company it is. They all suggest too high a concentration of fertilizer to deplete your bottles faster, so you buy more sooner than you truly need to the detriment of your plants, burn quality of your finished product, and wallet. Oh, and don't forget the magic flush juice to remedy your over feeding. Only $19.99 a gallon. Cash, check, or money orders accepted.

I prefer general hydroponics maxi series. It's cheap, consistent, and effective. I run my plants at 800-950 PPM with reverse osmosis water. I actually get a little uncomfortable over 900 PPM. 850-880 is my sweet spot. My entire regimen is:

Maxi Grow (general hydroponics)
Maxi Bloom (general hydroponics)
Floralicious Plus (general hydroponics)
Calcium Nitrate (amazon)
Magnesium Sulfate (epsom salt)
Potassium Silicate (general hydroponics)
Molasses High Brix (earth juice)

If you are using a liquid cal-mag, stop. For less than the cost of 1 gallon of over priced cal-mag product you could buy a 10 year supply for less in powder form. Cal-mag is just epsom salt and calcium nitrate mixed into water. 5 lbs of epsom salt is about $6 and 5 lbs of calcium nitrate is about $13. You would get 20 or 30 gallons of cal-mag out of those 10 lbs of dry elements. Fuck over paying for nutrients.

I will be switching to mega crop for my base fertilize after I deplete my existing stock of maxi grow and bloom. Mega crop is a better product for about half the price of maxi grow and bloom. Floralicious Plus and the Potassium Silicate are 2 items I don't mind continuing to purchase from general hydroponics, particularly the FP.
I tend to agree with most of this as well. I Never go much over 900ppm in soil or hydro. Never felt the need to do so. I will let the ppm of hydro solution drop to 400-500 ppm late flower. Soil will be straight water for the last week.
 

bmx42

Active Member
I believe flushing is a term invented by the nutrient companies to sell people more products they don't need. As long as you don't follow those ridiculous feed charts that suggest continuous over feeding using an array of products you don't need you should be right as rain. It always tickles me a bit when I hear some yahoo gloating about how they "push" their plants to 1500 or 1600 PPM as if that's a good thing. And they always explain the secret to their success is a 2 or 3 week flush at the end of their flower cycle. It doesn't matter which nutrient company it is. They all suggest too high a concentration of fertilizer to deplete your bottles faster, so you buy more sooner than you truly need to the detriment of your plants, burn quality of your finished product, and wallet. Oh, and don't forget the magic flush juice to remedy your over feeding. Only $19.99 a gallon. Cash, check, or money orders accepted.

I prefer general hydroponics maxi series. It's cheap, consistent, and effective. I run my plants at 800-950 PPM with reverse osmosis water. I actually get a little uncomfortable over 900 PPM. 850-880 is my sweet spot. My entire regimen is:

Maxi Grow (general hydroponics)
Maxi Bloom (general hydroponics)
Floralicious Plus (general hydroponics)
Calcium Nitrate (amazon)
Magnesium Sulfate (epsom salt)
Potassium Silicate (general hydroponics)
Molasses High Brix (earth juice)

If you are using a liquid cal-mag, stop. For less than the cost of 1 gallon of over priced cal-mag product you could buy a 10 year supply for less in powder form. Cal-mag is just epsom salt and calcium nitrate mixed into water. 5 lbs of epsom salt is about $6 and 5 lbs of calcium nitrate is about $13. You would get 20 or 30 gallons of cal-mag out of those 10 lbs of dry elements. Fuck over paying for nutrients.

I will be switching to mega crop for my base fertilize after I deplete my existing stock of maxi grow and bloom. Mega crop is a better product for about half the price of maxi grow and bloom. Floralicious Plus and the Potassium Silicate are 2 items I don't mind continuing to purchase from general hydroponics, particularly the FP.

What mix rate do you use for the Calcium Nitrate and epsom Salts?

I'm currently using Mega Crop on my outdoor plants and i like it. I switched from maxi and find it easier.

Have you seen their new 2 part that is Calcium nitrate as part a and basically their formula with less nitrogen and i think no kelp added in the part b?
 

jonnynobody

Well-Known Member
What mix rate do you use for the Calcium Nitrate and epsom Salts?

I'm currently using Mega Crop on my outdoor plants and i like it. I switched from maxi and find it easier.

Have you seen their new 2 part that is Calcium nitrate as part a and basically their formula with less nitrogen and i think no kelp added in the part b?
1.1 grams per gallon of epsom salt. 2 grams per gallon of calcium nitrate. I couldn't continue paying $40 a gallon for cal/mag products. Epsom salt and calcium nitrate are incredibly cheap elements. The industry is just massively screwing the life out of everyone they sell a bottle of their overpriced cal/mag to. It's insane. If people are dumb enough to give their hard earned money for something that isn't worth very much, you've got yourself a highly profitable and marketable product as a business. Advanced nutrients is a perfect example. Break every element down into a different bottle and give it a cool sounding name. Slap a cartoon sticker on the front, and voila! Snake oil for stupid people.

Those type of people love being sold things that look "cool", because they don't know what else to do. God forbid they should pick up a book and read. Maybe if the book had cool pictures on the front and cost 10x what it was worth they would read it then.
 

teddy bonkers

Well-Known Member
1.1 grams per gallon of epsom salt. 2 grams per gallon of calcium nitrate. I couldn't continue paying $40 a gallon for cal/mag products. Epsom salt and calcium nitrate are incredibly cheap elements. The industry is just massively screwing the life out of everyone they sell a bottle of their overpriced cal/mag to. It's insane. If people are dumb enough to give their hard earned money for something that isn't worth very much, you've got yourself a highly profitable and marketable product as a business. Advanced nutrients is a perfect example. Break every element down into a different bottle and give it a cool sounding name. Slap a cartoon sticker on the front, and voila! Snake oil for stupid people.

Those type of people love being sold things that look "cool", because they don't know what else to do. God forbid they should pick up a book and read. Maybe if the book had cool pictures on the front and cost 10x what it was worth they would read it then.
how you gonna reach grandmaster if you don't buy all the chinpokemon??? ahhhhh
 

Northwood

Well-Known Member

That's the only kinda scientific study I've ever seen on this subject. But common sense should tell ya that there is no way that putting the roots even in distilled water is going to remove minerals from your buds. LOL That's not the way it works. Root exudates are sugars and various compounds that attract bacteria and fungi, not minerals. There's nothing radically different from cannabis from any other photosynthetic flowering plants.

Now other "bro-science" may have merit, so I don't discount all of it. For example, harvesting your plants after a period of darkness - such as turning off the lights permanently the day or two before harvest. It's probably not a huge difference, but there is one botanically speaking.
 
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