Anyone decent with plumbing or piping?

MikeLife500

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I'm trying to install a drain bay in my basement (utility sink without faucet) so that I can have a place to empty my water instead of running upstairs. Trouble is where I want to connect the pipe from my sink to my drain, its 4 ft off the ground, same height as the washer machine! How do I solve this?
 

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Merlin1147

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Install a utility sink drain pump Plumbed into the the washing machine standpipe. I’d Y off of the washing machine stand pipe. Make sure you leave the washing machine stand pipe at the same height and have at least 18” vertical to the trap. Or cut a new T into the 4” with a trap, rather than use that clean out. If you use the clean out you need install a trap and to go up 18-30” from the trap.
 

Mak'er Grow

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I have to agree with @BobThe420Builder ...hire a plumber...thats cast by the looks of it and can be nasty to work on.
At the very least get an estimate of the work...some will do it free...then you'll have a better idea of how to solve it.
 

DrUgZrBaD

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I'm trying to install a drain bay in my basement (utility sink without faucet) so that I can have a place to empty my water instead of running upstairs. Trouble is where I want to connect the pipe from my sink to my drain, its 4 ft off the ground, same height as the washer machine! How do I solve this?
Get a lift station (sort of like a sump pump)
If you are just emptying water a sump pump in a barrels fine if not you need a macerating pump remember to put a check valve on it so you don’t flood your basement or just buy a transfer pump and pump it into that 11/2 clean out each time
https://www.google.ca/search?q=lift+station&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari#imgrc=2s4Lzeev4GzXwM
 

MICHI-CAN

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I'm trying to install a drain bay in my basement (utility sink without faucet) so that I can have a place to empty my water instead of running upstairs. Trouble is where I want to connect the pipe from my sink to my drain, its 4 ft off the ground, same height as the washer machine! How do I solve this?
Des the drain pipe exit the house at that height?
 

DarkWeb

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Get a lift station (sort of like a sump pump)
If you are just emptying water a sump pump in a barrels fine if not you need a macerating pump remember to put a check valve on it so you don’t flood your basement or just buy a transfer pump and pump it into that 11/2 clean out each time
https://www.google.ca/search?q=lift+station&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari#imgrc=2s4Lzeev4GzXwM
Same thing I posted but overkill for what they are needing it for.

OP can you just get a small pump and run that up to where your washing machine plumbs in?
 

KingQuazy

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Same thing I posted but overkill for what they are needing it for.

OP can you just get a small pump and run that up to where your washing machine plumbs in?
best answer yet. Small 1/2 hp pump is all you need. I empty flooded basements with one. There is a cleanout right there to stick the hose into and everything
 

rmax

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Can you cut a hole in the window/replace window with glass block.

Perhaps then you can get a 50 gallon barrel and sump pump.
 

DarkWeb

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There’s more than 1 pipe diameter fall on that to the lift station is my point, European design I assume
Wouldn’t meet code in North America
Product Description:
The SaniSHOWER is a system that is used to install a shower and sink up to 12 feet below the sewer line, or even up to 100 feet away from a soil stack.

The SaniSHOWER is a small gray water pump that may be used to pump waste water away from a shower, sink, bar sink, or other fixture. The SaniSHOWER is small enough to fit underneath a raised shower base. Alternatively, it can be placed behind a wall or beside a shower. The SaniSHOWER will pump wastewater up to 12 feet in height and/or 100 feet away from a soil stack.

Warranty: 2-Year Full Manufacturer Warranty
Extended 3-Year Warranty with Product Registration (www.Saniflo.com/Register)

How It Works:
The inside is comprised of a pressure chamber, which starts and stops the unit, and the motor, which drives the pump. When the water enters the pump, it activates a micro switch in the pressure chamber, which in turn starts the motor. The motor is sealed for life in an oil filled enclosure. A spindle/shaft drives the impeller and therefore the moving parts are kept to an absolute minimum. Water enters the chamber and is pumped away into the sanitary sewer.

The unit pumps the effluent upward to 12 feet and/or 100 feet horizontally (with gravity fall). Once the water is discharged and the water level in the container goes down, the micro switch deactivates the unit until water enters the unit again. A normal operating cycle can be as short as 2 - 10 seconds depending upon the discharge pipe run configuration; power consumption is therefore minimal.

In addition to sinks, the SaniSHOWER will also accept and discharge the waste water from a variety of other sanitary fixtures such as: a shower, a urinal, etc. When adding a shower, a base will have to be constructed. This base should be made out of a 2" x 6" (minimum) or 2" x 8" (recommended) on edge, to allow for the installation of a P-trap and the required 1/4"per foot gravity flow towards the pump unit.
The discharge elbow on the side can be rotated 360 degrees to fit any type of installation required. A non-return valve, which comes already assembled on the discharge elbow, prevents back flow into the unit.

This unit has been designed with a vent output on the side. All plumbing codes require connection to a vent system. Please note that the vent system should be a two-way air vent. It is also highly recommended for the gray water pump to be connected to a Ground Fault Interrupter (GFI) circuit.

The SaniSHOWER is small enough to fit comfortably inside a kitchen cabinet or vanity or even under a raised shower base.

Please note that there is no Saniflo shower specifically. A Saniflo shower would be a branded Saniflo shower and does not exist. We can help you determine what type of shower will work with your unit.

Plumbing Code Certified:
Like all relevant Saniflo products, this unit has been certified to American and Canadian Standards. Electrical standard UL 788, CA: Electrical standard CSA C22.2.
 

DrUgZrBaD

Well-Known Member
Product Description:
The SaniSHOWER is a system that is used to install a shower and sink up to 12 feet below the sewer line, or even up to 100 feet away from a soil stack.

The SaniSHOWER is a small gray water pump that may be used to pump waste water away from a shower, sink, bar sink, or other fixture. The SaniSHOWER is small enough to fit underneath a raised shower base. Alternatively, it can be placed behind a wall or beside a shower. The SaniSHOWER will pump wastewater up to 12 feet in height and/or 100 feet away from a soil stack.

Warranty: 2-Year Full Manufacturer Warranty
Extended 3-Year Warranty with Product Registration (www.Saniflo.com/Register)

How It Works:
The inside is comprised of a pressure chamber, which starts and stops the unit, and the motor, which drives the pump. When the water enters the pump, it activates a micro switch in the pressure chamber, which in turn starts the motor. The motor is sealed for life in an oil filled enclosure. A spindle/shaft drives the impeller and therefore the moving parts are kept to an absolute minimum. Water enters the chamber and is pumped away into the sanitary sewer.

The unit pumps the effluent upward to 12 feet and/or 100 feet horizontally (with gravity fall). Once the water is discharged and the water level in the container goes down, the micro switch deactivates the unit until water enters the unit again. A normal operating cycle can be as short as 2 - 10 seconds depending upon the discharge pipe run configuration; power consumption is therefore minimal.

In addition to sinks, the SaniSHOWER will also accept and discharge the waste water from a variety of other sanitary fixtures such as: a shower, a urinal, etc. When adding a shower, a base will have to be constructed. This base should be made out of a 2" x 6" (minimum) or 2" x 8" (recommended) on edge, to allow for the installation of a P-trap and the required 1/4"per foot gravity flow towards the pump unit.
The discharge elbow on the side can be rotated 360 degrees to fit any type of installation required. A non-return valve, which comes already assembled on the discharge elbow, prevents back flow into the unit.

This unit has been designed with a vent output on the side. All plumbing codes require connection to a vent system. Please note that the vent system should be a two-way air vent. It is also highly recommended for the gray water pump to be connected to a Ground Fault Interrupter (GFI) circuit.

The SaniSHOWER is small enough to fit comfortably inside a kitchen cabinet or vanity or even under a raised shower base.

Please note that there is no Saniflo shower specifically. A Saniflo shower would be a branded Saniflo shower and does not exist. We can help you determine what type of shower will work with your unit.

Plumbing Code Certified:
Like all relevant Saniflo products, this unit has been certified to American and Canadian Standards. Electrical standard UL 788, CA: Electrical standard CSA C22.2.
Wow it has a CSA!
I stated the picture you provided was not up to code, a csa means it’s a safe product.
The trap arm which is the piece off of the p-trap you cannot connect it to the 90 like it is, your allowed 1.5” of drop on that trap arm there’s like 3ft in that picture

here you would need a tee-y at the 90
The lift station does require a vent as well but so would that sink
That’s all I’m saying keep posting that wonderful manufacturer specs
 
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