morrisgreenberg
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you'll find out how good this stuff is when your plants are on the brink of death and it saves them, i dont think you can find it for less than $40 a quart and 130 a gallon, by the way, a quart is like 932ml
Anyone Have Problems with Hygrozyme?
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GetHighLikePlanes
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Can I use hygrozyme with Fox Farm Nutrients (Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, and Hydroponic Grow Big)? I'm not sure if they are organic or not. Thanks!
GypsyBush
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GetHighLikePlanes
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Yeah, looks good to me, but let me get a shot of your root system. I don't think you're using the same Fox Farm lineup as me (Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom, and Hydroponic Grow Big). I'm pretty sure these are organic and although the bottle doesn't say not to use it with organic nutes others advised not to. I just added some into my system (3 tbsp for 6 gallons = 44.4 mL = 7.4 mL per gallon).
GypsyBush
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Thanks!
I could show you dead roots, but my live ones are in the pots...
But believe me, sick plants do not have trich formation like that...lol...
You don"t think...???
Well,what can I say...
I just got done telling you I do...
But ok... you CAN not believe me of you want...
I even make light use of the Fox Farm Solubles... Open Sesame, Beastie Bloomz and Cha Ching...
They sure are...
Uh...
Enzymes feed the bacteria in the organic nutes...
The beneficial bacteria are the reason why you use hygrozyme... you are feeding them...
You must be thinking it works like H2O2... but it works very differently...
The idea is to feed the beneficial bacteria, so they colonize the roots and leave no vacant space for the bad guys to move in...
Should make you and your plants happy...
GetHighLikePlanes
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Haha, don't get all defensive, buddy, I believe you. I just saw that on another thread you said you used it with Fox Farm's Tiger Bloom and the 3 solubles and I didn't think you used the Grow Big and Big Bloom because you didn't mention them. Now I know you fucking Alaskan Gypsy. Just kidding. Anyways, thanks for the information.
GypsyBush
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lol..
I'm not... believe me...lol..
My pain sometimes makes me get very short and direct... seems rude online, but I assure I mean nothing but to help...
You don't have to, but I am glad you do...lol...
Gypsies have a tendency to never reveal 100% of anything...
A bit of mystery and confusion goes a long way to perpetuate our mystique...lol...
For the good of mankind, there are lots of things I do that I never mention...lol....
Do you...?
Oh! Oh! I better run...lol...
You are welcome dude...
Sorry if I came off rude... didn't mean to...
Cheers and good growing...
Is root rott ever an issue in alaska?
Hygrozyme seems ridiculously expensive to me, I've tried it once as directed to rescue some plants. said plants are dead, and I'm not sold on hygrozyme either. Much more puzzeling to me is how many people use it. too expensive, and not necessary. Way too many other cost effective options.
since I've switched to H2O2... no more slime
, at all.
different strokes for differnt folks, but I'd rather spend my hard earned money on many other things. The money you save ditching hygrozyme, you could get a sweet ph doser.
Hygrozyme seems ridiculously expensive to me, I've tried it once as directed to rescue some plants. said plants are dead, and I'm not sold on hygrozyme either. Much more puzzeling to me is how many people use it. too expensive, and not necessary. Way too many other cost effective options.
since I've switched to H2O2... no more slime
, at all. different strokes for differnt folks, but I'd rather spend my hard earned money on many other things. The money you save ditching hygrozyme, you could get a sweet ph doser.
GypsyBush
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Well, if you consider that the controlled 75F, 50% rh, clear skies 365 days a year do not represent Alaska in the least bit...lol....
I would say that Alaskan ops are just as suceptible to disease and other problems...
Once you allow a problem to become, it does not matter where you are...
Now... I run large res, my solution stays cool, and I had never used anything, and U had never had a problem...
But I run a perpetual harvest SOG as you may know, and I re-use my Hydroton...
Since adding Hygrozyme to my routine, I have:
Noticed a HUGE difference in rooting, when used very light (I don;t measure shit, I just put a little bit in a bowl of water) in my RW cloning cubes...
Re-used hydroton with minimal washing, and ZERO ROOT ISSUES...
Massive White Noodles escaping every pot, so white they look like they glow... with million of fyzzy hairs all over the visible roots... at harvest, my pots seem like someone just encased the hydroton in organic matter.. fresh, clean smelling roots...
I am not saying that everyone should use it...
Heck.. I am not even saying that I should use it..
But I do, and I am glad for it...
H2O2 is HAZMAT, it is ABSURDLY expenive for me to get it here.. along with radioactive materials, explosives, compressed gases...etc...
I love Al... believe me... I owe what I know and have to him...
But I have learned that the world of organics is not the complex war management that I thought it would be...
I use organics, not because I prefer the taste or potency or any of that talk...
I do it because I have become aware that if you leave the roots uncolonized, the first moment conditions allow, the bad guys will move in...
At such a time, hygrozyme is the last thing you want...
Hygrozyme will super feed the bacteria... and if you have the bad guys in you roots... Your plants will probably die...
So if you make sure that you have the good guys (H2O2 in high doses will kill them too) occupying all the real estate, and you pour in enzymes that work on converting the organic matter into bacteria food, you will ensure that if the bad guys ever show up, they will have an army of good guys to beat before moving in at all...
It's just my opinion Yak...
I don;t know shit...
You were here and kicking ass long before I ever had a harvest...
But I do believe what I said is ALSO a good way to do it... not saying at all that your isn;t a good way at all...
This is just been MY experience so far... and if I am wrong, I would love to know about it, cause I HATE to be wrong...lol....
Cheers mate...
I would say that Alaskan ops are just as suceptible to disease and other problems...
Once you allow a problem to become, it does not matter where you are...
Now... I run large res, my solution stays cool, and I had never used anything, and U had never had a problem...
But I run a perpetual harvest SOG as you may know, and I re-use my Hydroton...
Since adding Hygrozyme to my routine, I have:
Noticed a HUGE difference in rooting, when used very light (I don;t measure shit, I just put a little bit in a bowl of water) in my RW cloning cubes...
Re-used hydroton with minimal washing, and ZERO ROOT ISSUES...
Massive White Noodles escaping every pot, so white they look like they glow... with million of fyzzy hairs all over the visible roots... at harvest, my pots seem like someone just encased the hydroton in organic matter.. fresh, clean smelling roots...
I am not saying that everyone should use it...
Heck.. I am not even saying that I should use it..
But I do, and I am glad for it...
H2O2 is HAZMAT, it is ABSURDLY expenive for me to get it here.. along with radioactive materials, explosives, compressed gases...etc...
I love Al... believe me... I owe what I know and have to him...
But I have learned that the world of organics is not the complex war management that I thought it would be...
I use organics, not because I prefer the taste or potency or any of that talk...
I do it because I have become aware that if you leave the roots uncolonized, the first moment conditions allow, the bad guys will move in...
At such a time, hygrozyme is the last thing you want...
Hygrozyme will super feed the bacteria... and if you have the bad guys in you roots... Your plants will probably die...
So if you make sure that you have the good guys (H2O2 in high doses will kill them too) occupying all the real estate, and you pour in enzymes that work on converting the organic matter into bacteria food, you will ensure that if the bad guys ever show up, they will have an army of good guys to beat before moving in at all...
It's just my opinion Yak...
I don;t know shit...
You were here and kicking ass long before I ever had a harvest...
But I do believe what I said is ALSO a good way to do it... not saying at all that your isn;t a good way at all...
This is just been MY experience so far... and if I am wrong, I would love to know about it, cause I HATE to be wrong...lol....
Cheers mate...
jointchief
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Use beneficial bacteria, you will never have a problem with root rot, or slime/sludge. Hygrozyme is a ripoff imho.
I'm not proficient at the multi-quote thing (ie: I dont know how)
but let me hit a couple things.
A) I dont believe I was kicking ass before you started... I've had way more than my fair share of ups and downs. and it really feels good to finally come into a nice simple system that works. I aboslutely love the simplicity of my flood/drain chem/h2o2 system.
B) you found a routine that obviously works REALLY well for you, which is what we all want. I dont suggest you alter it once you're comfortable with it, but I hate overpaying for things that I'm not sure wether I'd be just as kosher without.
higher temps GREATLY affect your chance of having issues. and there is no doubt about this whatsoever.
it basically comes down to that, necessity vs. peace of mind.
my plants and roots are a - ok, and I dont pay 33 dollars a quart, I think my biggest issue with hygrozyme is that it's too expensive, plus, with my nice simple system, I really dont need it. Which makes me happy.
On that note Gypsy... you're not just doing something right, you're doing everything right, because you're getting good results, and that is all that matters.
oh yeah... get CO2 , you're doing that wrong. (heh)
oh yeah, I am also happy that I dont have to put premium grade gasoline into my pickup.
Guess I'm just cheap!
I love growing.
morrisgreenberg
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GYPSY ...your such a bud porn hooker lmao he goes " im not sure if this stuff works here have a look" then you see 409758 pix of some really hardcore dank ass shit.....i hardly know you and i love you! but may i correct you about the hzyme since you know im they biggest fan, as i have always believed and sure i read it somewhere, beneficials produce the enzymes that stave off the bad infectious bacterias, not feeding bacteria good or bad, for feeding the bacterias we use additives that contain cane sugar or use molasses such as flora nectar and i think sweet. if this were the case my once disgusting root rotted plants wouldnt have made it back from certain death "here have a look-bam 1,200 pix" you really are the pic depot, honestly i love it keep it comming
morrisgreenberg
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another tidbit, those bastards at hygrozyme dont tell you anything about the product, or what it does, nothing just "secret agent" chemistry without the chemicals, i like the stuff so much i dont use soy sauce anymore, straight hygrozyme with my fried dumpligs!
Knally
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Nice pics GypsyBush.
I'm happy for those who use Hygrozyme and have positive results and condolences for those like myself who have had bad results with it.
Before and after Hygrozyme I had and have white, thick roots. With Hygrozyme - brown, slimy roots.
Did you know that Hygrozyme's parent company primarily produces industrial cleaning solutions and that Hygrozyme was developed from those products. Since it is touted as a cleaner, then no doubt it will strip some beneficial supplements from your system.
I use it to clean my hydroton and growing equipment, but have switched to AquaShield and Sub Culture B for reservoir water treatment. Why should I ask for problems? Do what works for you.
GetHighLikePlanes
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I added Hygrozyme yesterday to my two week old plants and what do you know the roots turned brown. The roots were originally nice and white. Is that only temporary?
UPDATE: The roots aren't actually brown. I sprayed them with distilled water and that removed the brown color so it must have been some sort of buildup caused by the Hygrozyme. All looks good in the hood now.
UPDATE: The roots aren't actually brown. I sprayed them with distilled water and that removed the brown color so it must have been some sort of buildup caused by the Hygrozyme. All looks good in the hood now.
morrisgreenberg
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hey knally, this thread has been beaten to death eh
Knally
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yeah mon, sure been beat
morrisgreenberg
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the best alternative i have found is benfeficials like myccorhizal, i believ GH's sub sulture contains it, for soil you can use espoma's bio-tone starter plus-5lb bag for $7, much cheaper than mighty mycco that my local shop sells for $30 for a small sandwich bag half full...i have to say anything with mycco is the shiznit, thats why i approve of fox famrs soils!
GypsyBush
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Thought I'd drop an invite for you guys...
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/167596-gypsys-picture-depot-27.html
Cheers...
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/167596-gypsys-picture-depot-27.html
Cheers...