AP: Fraud claims aimed in part at keeping Trump base loyal.

injinji

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That is going to just end up with a lot of angry people and less money for schools at the end of the day.
Around here anyway, schools are funded with property tax. The western part of my county is call the sandhills. It's slowly changing with nicer houses coming in, but for years the majority were large families of school age kids living in run down trailers on a quarter acre. The joke was the sandhills was full of Yankees who came down here with a white shirt and a 20 dollar bill and have never changed either.

(I have no kids, but have almost 200 acres of land)
 

Fogdog

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Trump returns to Washington early ahead of Republican plan to disrupt certification of Biden's win

President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump headed back to Washington Thursday morning in a departure that was earlier than anticipated as some Republicans plan to delay certification of President-elect Joe Biden's election win when Congress meets next week.

The Trumps took off in Air Force One from Palm Beach International Airport and are expected back in the capital later Thursday afternoon.
Trump left Palm Beach before his annual New Year's Eve party, even though guests had already gathered at his south Florida club and were told Trump would be in attendance, according to three people familiar with the matter. The President typically relishes appearing on the red carpet in front of the press and his friends, but is skipping the event altogether this year in what will be an unusual move.

Over the course of his stay in Florida, Trump had been single-mindedly focused on the election results and the upcoming certification process in Congress, set for January 6. After losing dozens of court cases and having his appeal rejected by the Supreme Court, Trump has viewed the January 6 event as his best opportunity to overturn the election he lost.


He keeps sending lackeys to do the work and they keep coming back empty handed. Remember when he said "Only I can fix it"? lulz Pence had to cancel his vp travel junket because Trump didn't like the optics. After all, that sounds like "giving up". So now, the Fixer In Chief is going to take the fight to Congress. If this were a novel, I'd have lost the ability to suspend my disbelief a long time ago. But here we are, Trump is going to take charge and show us how a real leader gets things done.

Meanwhile, Pence has been given a fools hat and told to sit on a stool in the corner when he rightly told the teacher she was wrong:

Trump has told people recently that Pence isn't doing enough to fight for him as his presidency ends, and has recently taken an interest in Pence's traditional role during the certification. As president of the Senate, Pence presides over the proceedings.

Sources say Trump, before his vacation, brought the matter up to the vice president and has been "confused" as to why Pence can't overturn the results of the election on January 6. Pence and White House aides have tried to explain to him that his role is more of a formality and he cannot unilaterally reject the Electoral College votes.

Pence had once planned to depart on foreign travel shortly after the January 6 certification. But plans for a trip to the Middle East and Europe have now been put on hold, people familiar with the matter said.


If Sen Hawley joins with House Republicans to contest the Electoral College results, we will be treated to a complete GOP meltdown one way or the other. GOP Senators will have to go on the record one way or the other. Either they vote to disenfranchise 80 million voters or they vote in favor of our Democracy and trigger Trump's rage at them for facing reality. I prefer that this whole shit show didn't happen but next week, I'll have the popcorn ready. It's going to get interesting.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Trump returns to Washington early ahead of Republican plan to disrupt certification of Biden's win

President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump headed back to Washington Thursday morning in a departure that was earlier than anticipated as some Republicans plan to delay certification of President-elect Joe Biden's election win when Congress meets next week.

The Trumps took off in Air Force One from Palm Beach International Airport and are expected back in the capital later Thursday afternoon.
Trump left Palm Beach before his annual New Year's Eve party, even though guests had already gathered at his south Florida club and were told Trump would be in attendance, according to three people familiar with the matter. The President typically relishes appearing on the red carpet in front of the press and his friends, but is skipping the event altogether this year in what will be an unusual move.

Over the course of his stay in Florida, Trump had been single-mindedly focused on the election results and the upcoming certification process in Congress, set for January 6. After losing dozens of court cases and having his appeal rejected by the Supreme Court, Trump has viewed the January 6 event as his best opportunity to overturn the election he lost.


He keeps sending lackeys to do the work and they keep coming back empty handed. Remember when he said "Only I can fix it"? lulz Pence had to cancel his vp travel junket because Trump didn't like the optics. After all, that sounds like "giving up". So now, the Fixer In Chief is going to take the fight to Congress. If this were a novel, I'd have lost the ability to suspend my disbelief a long time ago. But here we are, Trump is going to take charge and show us how a real leader gets things done.

Meanwhile, Pence has been given a fools hat and told to sit on a stool in the corner when he rightly told the teacher she was wrong:

Trump has told people recently that Pence isn't doing enough to fight for him as his presidency ends, and has recently taken an interest in Pence's traditional role during the certification. As president of the Senate, Pence presides over the proceedings.

Sources say Trump, before his vacation, brought the matter up to the vice president and has been "confused" as to why Pence can't overturn the results of the election on January 6. Pence and White House aides have tried to explain to him that his role is more of a formality and he cannot unilaterally reject the Electoral College votes.

Pence had once planned to depart on foreign travel shortly after the January 6 certification. But plans for a trip to the Middle East and Europe have now been put on hold, people familiar with the matter said.


If Sen Hawley joins with House Republicans to contest the Electoral College results, we will be treated to a complete GOP meltdown one way or the other. GOP Senators will have to go on the record one way or the other. Either they vote to disenfranchise 80 million voters or they vote in favor of our Democracy and trigger Trump's rage at them for facing reality. I prefer that this whole shit show didn't happen but next week, I'll have the popcorn ready. It's going to get interesting.
I Mitch wins control of the senate there is only one thing for Donald to do, force Marco to resign and have DeSantis give him his senate seat. Next bump off Mitch as leader of the republicans in the senate and show him how to lead skillfully! :lol:

Donald won't show up for work there either and will fuck them up so badly half of the republicans would sit as independents. Even with a senate majority Donald would fuck it up so badly they would be in complete disarray and he wouldn't show up for critical votes. He would be what he is now, a leader without a clue of what is going on around him, too stupid to learn and too lazy work or even show up.

If Mitch wins a majority in the senate, it would be easy to manipulate Donald into taking Marco's seat, or putting enough heat on him that he would spontaneously combust. Mitch would shit a brick at the prospect of Donald in the senate gunning for his job and being impossible to control. It would be like tossing Mitch a live hand grenade, at least until they indicted him and with his self pardon, that might take a bit of time. Donald wants to be the center of attention, will miss the limelight and will want revenge on the republican senate. Joe just needs to needle him about it a bit and tell him if he wants to talk about politics, sit in the senate, if he has the guts and brains, and can get a seat.

You could have Marco and Mitch out of their jobs, the republican senate caucus in disarray, with senate leader Trump in prison missing votes and refusing to resign his senate seat. Besides, he might put half of them in prison too, he does that to sleazy people who get near him. Why not? They are useless as things stand now, no harm done really. I like the sound of that, Senator Trump from the great state of Florida! :lol:
 

Fogdog

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I Mitch wins control of the senate there is only one thing for Donald to do, force Marco to resign and have DeSantis give him his senate seat. Next bump off Mitch as leader of the republicans in the senate and show him how to lead skillfully! :lol:

Donald won't show up for work there either and will fuck them up so badly half of the republicans would sit as independents. Even with a senate majority Donald would fuck it up so badly they would be in complete disarray and wouldn't show up for critical votes. He would be what he is now, a leader without a clue of what is going on around him.

If Mitch wins a majority in the senate, it would be easy to manipulate Donald into taking Marco's seat, or putting enough heat on him that he would spontaneously combust. Mitch would shit a brick at the prospect of Donald in the senate gunning for his job and being impossible to control. It would be like tossing Mitch a live hand grenade, at least until they indicted him and with his self pardon, that might take a bit of time. Donald wants to be the center of attention, will miss the limelight and will want revenge on the republican senate. Joe just needs to needle him about it a bit and tell him if he wants to talk about politics, sit in the senate, if he has the guts and brains, and can get a seat.

You could have Marco and Mitch out of their jobs, the republican senate caucus in disarray, senator Trump in prison missing votes and refusing to resign his senate seat. Besides, he might put half of them in prison too, he does that to sleazy people who get near him. Why not? They are useless as things stand now, no harm done really. I like the sound of that, Senator Trump from the great state of Florida! :lol:
Was that written on edibles?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Was that written on edibles?
Half in jest, but only half. It is a plan to destroy the republican senate using the T2000 terminator! Put the notion in Donald's head, and manipulate him using his reactivity and ego, he can be played like a fish. Personally I don't think he will be running around lose for too long after Jan 20th, I expect federal indictments as individual #1 in the SDNY.
 

Fogdog

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Half in jest, but only half. It is a plan to destroy the republican senate using the T2000 terminator! Put the notion in Donald's head, and manipulate him using his reactivity and ego, he can be played like a fish. Personally I don't think he will be running around lose for too long after Jan 20th, I expect federal indictments as individual #1 in the SDNY.
tincture?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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tincture?
I had a brownie on Christmas day and was high for two fucking days! I thought about one tonight, briefly and made a rather quick decision not to bother. I'm keeping some New Years resolutions starting tomorrow and want to arise with a clear mind.

My latest vice is torrenting again and binge watching a season of Star Trek Picard all last night! Went through 2 seasons of the Mandalorian last week. I still read too long and sometimes have trouble putting a book down, fiction and even non fiction. We all have our vices and they are also our pleasures. :lol:
 

Fogdog

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I had a brownie on Christmas day and was high for two fucking days! I thought about one tonight, briefly and made a rather quick decision not to bother. I'm keeping some New Years resolutions starting tomorrow and want to arise with a clear mind.

My latest vice is torrenting again and binge watching a season of Star Trek Picard all last night! Went through 2 seasons of the Mandalorian last week. I still read too long and sometimes have trouble putting a book down, fiction and even non fiction. We all have our vices and they are also our pleasures. :lol:
Picard makes you giddy and write fanciful stories on pot boards?

Imagine that.
 

hanimmal

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Chuck Todd did a pretty good job showing anger over the constant lies of the senator.

Still needs to work on his stopping the propaganda. I would like to see them get better with the propaganda, maybe instead of a real time news feed, they have pop ups that show the actual information fact checking their lies in the moment so Todd doesn't have to try to overtake them.
 

CunningCanuk

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I had a brownie on Christmas day and was high for two fucking days! I thought about one tonight, briefly and made a rather quick decision not to bother. I'm keeping some New Years resolutions starting tomorrow and want to arise with a clear mind.

My latest vice is torrenting again and binge watching a season of Star Trek Picard all last night! Went through 2 seasons of the Mandalorian last week. I still read too long and sometimes have trouble putting a book down, fiction and even non fiction. We all have our vices and they are also our pleasures. :lol:
A couple hours of sleep will do you good too.
 

CunningCanuk

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Chuck Todd did a pretty good job showing anger over the constant lies of the senator.

Still needs to work on his stopping the propaganda. I would like to see them get better with the propaganda, maybe instead of a real time news feed, they have pop ups that show the actual information fact checking their lies in the moment so Todd doesn't have to try to overtake them.
I like it when they stop and call them on the lies as they’re told. It may seem disjointed but it’s better than letting the lies go unchallenged. It worked well for the reporter from Axios on the infamous trump interview.
 

hanimmal

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Full call of Trump propaganda tactics with trying to steal the Georgia election he lost.

Full rebuttal to Trump's lies about the Georgia race by Georgia Secretary of State.
 

hanimmal

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Full call of Trump propaganda tactics with trying to steal the Georgia election he lost.

Full rebuttal to Trump's lies about the Georgia race by Georgia Secretary of State.
Im listening to the full rant with Trump in the above video. He is such a jackass. And indistinguishable from any of the other radicalized cultists. Its actually giving me flashbacks of dealing with my dad.
 
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hanimmal

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When a group of pro-Trump rioters stormed the Capitol and smashed windows on Wednesday, a woman jumped onto a pane and started through.

Seconds later, a gunshot rang out and the woman, who had a Trump flag tied around her waist, tipped back and fell onto the marble floor as blood spilled from her shoulder.

“They shot a girl!” someone yelled as the crowd ran out of the southeast entrance.

She died later that day, police said. She was one of four fatalities from the violent rioting that wreaked havoc through the halls of Congress on Wednesday, halting the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s electoral victory. Three others died of unspecified medical emergencies during the chaos.

The woman was 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt, a California native and Air Force veteran, her former husband told The Washington Post. Before her death in the Capitol, she had used her social media to express fervent support for President Trump and echo many of the president’s conspiracy theories and false claims of mass voter fraud.

Police have not yet confirmed Babbitt’s identity or confirmed details about how she was shot. The woman was shot by U.S. Capitol Police, D.C. Police Chief Robert J. Contee III told reporters on Wednesday.


Babbitt, a native of San Diego, served in Afghanistan and Iraq in the Air Force before other deployments with the National Guard to Kuwait and Qatar, ex-husband Timothy McEntee told The Post. McEntee and Babbitt met in the Air Force and were married for 14 years, before splitting in May 2019.

McEntee, who did not know Babbitt had traveled to D.C. for the protests, was shocked by the news of her death and described her as smart and strong-willed.

“I feel absolutely terrible and sick to my stomach about it,” he wrote in a text message. “She was never afraid to speak her mind and in a way this was her way of speaking her mind (going to the rally).”

McEntee said Babbitt had remarried and owned a pool supply company with her husband, Aaron Babbitt.

Babbitt’s mother-in-law told WTTG, which did not identify her by name, that her son did not accompany Babbitt to Washington.

“I really don’t know why she decided to do this,” she said.

In an interview with San Diego station KUSI, Babbitt’s husband said she was a passionate Trump supporter. McEntee echoed those sentiments, adding that she was “very loud and opinionated, but caring, sweet, thoughtful, loving.”

“You would never forget meeting her,” he wrote.

On social media, Babbitt recorded combative videos about immigration policy, while expressing her support for a border wall. In early September, she tweeted a picture from a Trump boat parade in San Diego wearing a shirt that said, “We are Q,” referring to QAnon, the far-right conspiracy theory. The tweet also included the hashtag “#WWG1WGA,” an acronym used by supporters who believe in the claims that Trump was battling a group of “deep state” child abusers.

Babbitt also retweeted messages calling for Vice President Pence to resign and be charged with treason, videos of Trump rallies and photos of the president’s supporters flying to D.C. for the protests.

In one of her final posts, she responded to a tweet saying many flights to D.C. were canceled because of weather. “The entire world is corrupt,” the person said.

In response, Babbitt wrote: “Nothing will stop us … they can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours … dark to light!”
 

hanimmal

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A raft of new developments shows that the GOP civil war over Donald Trump’s legacy is intensifying. A top Senate Republican has now suggested that candidates in the former president’s mold are unelectable. A Never Trump group just launched ads backing up Republicans who dared to condemn Trump for inciting the insurrection.

Meanwhile, the pro-Trump side keeps mobilizing. Efforts to censure those anti-Trump apostate Republicans are gaining steam. Former White House adviser Reince Priebus is mulling a run for Wisconsin governor on the chief selling point that he’d have Trump’s support.

Into this mayhem has stepped Stephen K. Bannon, who is as attracted to Trump-fueled chaos as insects are to rotting corpses. Trump’s former adviser is now elevating his profile as spokesman for the pro-Trump wing in a way that usefully illuminates the ugly depths of the GOP’s ongoing radicalization.

But the contours of this radicalization also impose an obligation on Democrats — to ensure that nothing impairs a full accounting into Trump’s most recent crime against the country, the effort to incite the violent overthrow of U.S. democracy.

Bannon has entered the fray on two fronts.

A civil war in Pennsylvania

In Pennsylvania, the GOP civil war is now playing out in a Republican primary in advance of the 2022 Senate campaign over the seat of retiring Sen. Patrick J. Toomey, who voted to convict Trump at his impeachment trial.

As Politico reports, Toomey’s vote against Trump is now the central issue in that primary, which is becoming a proxy battle between Republicans still loyal to Trump and those who think continued devotion to him will damage the party’s statewide chances. Bannon has moved to put his stamp on the contest.

As Bannon told Politico: “Any candidate who wants to win in Pennsylvania in 2022 must be full Trump MAGA.”

If you are not “full Trump MAGA,” you will be denied the support of Trump loyalists. What does “full Trump MAGA” mean, exactly?
Well, it means absolute devotion to the mythology that Trump should not have been held accountable for his effort to incite the violent disruption of the election that was stolen from him.

The rage of the MAGA forces are pouring down on former congressman Ryan Costello, who is mulling a run for Senate and who suggested it’s a bad idea for county parties to censure Toomey for his vote to convict Trump, as some have already done. Costello says the censures “will hurt Republican candidates.”

For this, Bannon scaldingly denounced Costello as “a sellout to the globalists.” The grand populist nationalist vision that once animated Trumpism has been reduced to little more than a demand for unwavering lickspittlery to Trump despite (or perhaps because of) his effort to incite violent insurrection.

Bannon’s rhetoric, of course, might prove an empty threat. But the point is that many Republicans appear to view things exactly as he does. Toomey is being widely condemned in the state, with some Republicans raging at his vote as a betrayal of GOP constituents. And other Republicans who voted against Trump are facing censure in Wyoming and North Carolina.

A loony plot to impeach Biden

Bannon’s second threat is even more comically absurd. He recently told a Boston audiencethat he hopes to see Trump run for Congress in 2022, then run for speaker of the House (which Bannon presumes Republicans will win), then preside over the impeachment of President Biden:

“We totally get rid of Nancy Pelosi, and the first act of President Trump as speaker will be to impeach Joe Biden for his illegitimate activities of stealing the presidency,” Bannon said, leading to applause and hollers from the Boston Republicans.
This is rank crackpottery, but here again, the singular organizing and motivating principle is the idea that Trump’s loss to Biden couldn’t possibly have been legitimate, or that there’s simply zero obligation on the part of the Trump movement to recognize it as such, and that loyalty to Trump requires unwavering fealty to that idea.

Bannon is a scammer, but many Republicans continue to hew to this mythology in various forms. Large swaths of the GOP propped it up by supporting that lawsuit to toss out millions of votes in four states and by voting to invalidate Biden’s electors in Congress. It is currently shaping numerous local intraparty battles and will continue to do so.

What’s more, the lies that underpin this mythology are now inspiring an intensification of voter suppression and counter-majoritarian tactics in numerous states. This radicalization of the GOP against democracy could have a major impact on our political future.

All of this, I think, imposes an obligation on us to ensure that what happened on Jan. 6 is not memory-holed and gets the full accounting it deserves.

We must have a full accounting

With Democrats launching a commission that will get to the bottom of the insurrection, Republicans are already working overtime to preclude full scrutiny of Trump’s role by pretending this would be unacceptably “partisan.”

In short, Republicans will try to either erase Trump’s role from this full accounting or dramatically downplay it by recasting the whole reckoning process as an examination of security failures at the Capitol or violent extremism on “both sides.”

Those Republicans who want the GOP to fully renounce Trump understand the importance of a full reckoning with the insurrection.
Just look at this brutal new ad from the Never Trump Republican Accountability Project, which shows dramatic footage of the violence and calls on Republicans to agree to the following proposition: “This can never happen again.”

Truly grappling with the implications of GOP radicalization absolutely requires a total reconstruction of what Trump’s months-long campaign to overthrow U.S. democracy wrought, so we understand what this movement is capable of in the near and far future. Bannon may be a thug and a grifter, but at least he has made this unavoidably clear.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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