Apollo 10 grow light

dragongrower

Active Member
Hi, I am going to be setting up my new grow environment here pretty soon and was looking for some advice... I will be running a vegging tent and a flowering tent, all with LED's...

1) The vegging tent will have one Apollo 10 led light in it with the following specs...

7 blue 460
2 white 6500k
2 white 4000k
1 orange 610-615nm
2 red 660nm
2 red 630nm


The tent is 32x32x60

2) The flowering tent will have two Apollo 10 led lights in it with the following specs...

7 red 660nm
4 red 630nm
1 orange 610-615nm
2 blue 460nm
1 white 2700k


The tent is 48x48x84


The problem isn't with my set-up, I have been researching for months as to what led's to get, for the money, Apollo's seem to be the top dog...

My question is, does anyone know where a good place to buy them is that isn't going to rape me on the price...seen some places that offer them, does anyone know where to get them cheap and be customizable?

Thanks in advance...
 

FranJan

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You'll want Cidly.com for customized Apollo's and you can tell the middlemen to take a hike. And this is what I'm thinking when I look at your setups.

No 730nm in your flowering? Less 660 then.
No 435nm in either?
Kill the blues and switch to 5000-12000K whites on the flowering panel. You'll get a less "spikey" blue if you do, but you need to check the spectral data of the whites to see how they're made. You'll want something that's got blue phosphorous added to it, not a blue/yellow dichromatic LED, though those aren't a bad alternative either.
610nm for terpenes, right? You'll probably get enough from your NWs and WWs.

Anyway it's your call as always so Good Luck and Happy Growing!
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
I ran that same spectrum on my 8 and it did pretty good. seemed some stress towards the end.. The 10 I recently ordered, I did a different spectrum. I ordered from cidly too. The apollo 10 cost me $275 plus $120 shipping . Before I paid $238 for the apollo 8 plus shipping

per module
5 red 660nm
5 red 630nm
1 white 10,000k
2 white 5000k
2 white 4200k

We'll see, their newer whites have uv and ir and blue, green, and orange too

In my t5's in veg I just switched one light to all 5400k bulbs. They are kicking the shit out of my aquarium bulbs that cost twice as much. So I'm seeing better results in that range.

In my plans for a veg apollo

1 blue 460
4 white 5000k
4 white 6500k
3 red 660nm
3 red 630nm

The whites and blues run a higher mA. They have to dial it back if more than 5 per module are used. looking at about 0.16 - 0.2 watts less on each blue and white
 

dragongrower

Active Member
Sorry for the late reply, been busy with work and having vehicles die on me... Anyway, (Franjan), I really have no clue on the spectrum, that was a breakdown that I saw on someone else's posting and just duplicated it... In your opinion what should the breakdown on the led's be for flowering and vegging?

Also, I visited Cidly.com only to find out that they don't provide prices and/or an order form... Does this mean that I need to call them to place an order?
How much is it gonna cost me to get three Apollo 10's from them??

Please help...
 

dragongrower

Active Member
Ok, so after doing a little research I have come up with this flowering set-up

6 Red 66nm
1 Red 730nm
1 Blue 460nm
1 Blue 435nm
4 Red 630nm
2 White (5K-12K)

Let me know if that is a great set-up or not...

What set-up would you run if you had??
 

FranJan

Well-Known Member
Hey Dragon. Personally I like that config, especially as a veg/flower rig, maybe a little blue heavy. Here's what Ed Rosenthal in his book, "Marijuana Grower's Handbook" has to say about spectrums that I think is a good way to think about spectrum selection.

For photosynthesis, light energy is captured by chlorophylls A and B primarily from the red and blue portion of the spectrums. Light absorption by chlorophyll A peaks at 430 nm in the blue band and 662nm in the red, and chlorophyll B peaks at 453 nm in the blue and 642 nm in the orange-red bands. Chlorophyll synthesis peaks at 435 nm and 445 nm in the blue spectrum and 640 and 675 nm in the red wavelengths.
Chlorophyll is not the only light-sensitive part of the plant. Carotenoids, are a group of orange pigments that capture light in the blue portion of the spectrum, primarily at about 450 nm in the blue spectrum and 475 nm in the blue-green range. Carotenoids not only contribute to photosynthesis but also protect the chlorophyll frm excess light that could have destructive effects.
Anthocyanin and other flavinoid pigments also absorb blue and UV light to protect chlorophyll from photo-destruction.
Another pigment that appears to play a role in plant plant health is xanthophyll. This yellow pigment captures light in the range from 400-530 nm, but is usually hidden from our view by the green of chlorophyll. If a leaf loses its chlorophyll—because of a nitrogen deficiency, for instance—xanthophyll’s bright yellow color becomes apparent. Xanthophyll has several functions. First, it acts as a light and heat regulator. At dawn, it is in its low-energy form, violaxanthin, which has peak reactions to light at 480 nm and 648 nm. As the light increases to levels that might hurt the thylakoids and lead to photo-oxidation of the chlorophyll molecules, violaxanthin siphons off the excess energy of photons, using them to create its high-energy form, zeaxanthin. When light intensity decreases, the zeaxanthin returns to its low energy state, violaxanthin, in a cycle that can take anywhere from a few minutes to several hours. These chemical processes enable plants to cool themselves during lighted periods and to stay warm during cool nights. Plants bank energy during the day and release it at night by shifting xanthophyll to its low-energy form, releasing heat. During the day, some of the light energy may also be transferred to chlorophyll by releasing an electron to be used for photosynthesis. Other plant pigments also gather energy from spectrums not used by chlorophyll. Neoxanthin, lutein, and zeaxanthin each transfer more than half the energy they gather to chlorophyll.
 
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