Are Boosters and Additives Really Necessary?

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

VICTORYGARDENSHYDRO

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phear said:
with dyna and jacks which ratios should i be using in veg and then in flower????? ive seen too many people with conflicting info and just want to get the rite 1

next grow im going to try dyna or jacks and then on the other half of the room use what im using now (only a couple of products) and compare the differance!
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little ones 400-600 ppm's
tweens 600-800 ppm's
flowering, you need to find your strains limit, then back it off a couple hundred ppm's. the amount that keeps your plant healthy and green is the correct amount, In flower, I use the combo of half veg and half bloom, my plants can take close to 1500 ppm's before they start to burn the tips.
 
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phear

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i dont mean ppm i mean n,p,k values because jacks and dyna run a different ratio so just wondering which 1 is better.

also do u know how much of each you need to get say 100 or 200litres of water to 1500ppm?

i know what my strains max is its about 1600ppm it loves the nutes lol
 
Agent 47

Agent 47

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It seems a lot of people don't want to/ can't put ego aside and realize they may have made a mistake. Sure all these additives may help, but why not buy a fertilizer that is balanced properly for growth and bloom and not have to buy 300 additives. It doesn't have to be sugar coated cannabis food

I would never buy any type of AN products, but I would LOVE someone to who has their product to buy a $13 dollar bottle of Dyna-Gro 9-3-6, and $13 bottle of their bloom forumla (can't remember npk offhand) if they plants need N then give it to them! People don't, and think that these additives are the answer

Forget about impractical forum culture. I would assume many people would jump on this since they have so much $ for AN. To produce the same effect, you would need a full line of AN, all their additives, and some good luck.

It's sad that someone like UB is trying to show you through the fog and release you from marketing and terrible internet growers traditions and your too sensitive to realize you might have fucked up, or worse yet, that your wrong.

If you think i'm referring to you then i suppose this post was of purpose.




And shame on you RIU for censoring the cold truth, sponsor or not. It's not like they are going to lose business any time soon. the majority of the numbskulls here think UB is lying or something.
 
panhead

panhead

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asaph said:
that's cool man

but what would happen if you didn't use them is what i'm wondering

would you get a bad crop because of that? poor yield? low quality? no high?
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The only thing that will happen from not using additives is your wallet will be heavier from all the cash you save
 
bigsourD

bigsourD

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Agent 47 said:
Agreed.

I suggest getting a well balanced nutrient like Dyna-Gro and saving your money.
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Also agreed, if a "base" formula is not capable of producing healthy robust plants from start to finish, then they are bunk nutrients IMO. I've been recently using nothing but Dyna-Gro and my yeilds in hydro have actually increased.
 
virulient

virulient

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Only had to read post #25. If you've read the information in those links, and still have questions, then you might want to look for a new hobby.
 
dmwk1822

dmwk1822

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ive seen a shit load of people using canna nutes and i personally think that coco it the way to go its the best of both worlds but ive never used canna and all i see is huge buds if you havent seen canna in action id look at some grows done with canna they always seem to have huge buds
 
dmwk1822

dmwk1822

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oh and i think harreken is right if you use any logic at all times of higher production equals mre use of materials in a given time so things that give more materials pk's at that time would create an increase in production or buds plus since adding to much N can harm your plants you cant add your regular nute. also even though plants create carbs and such most things can utillise more then naturally is produced such as co2 although im not sure on the amont that will benifit or if any benefit will occure lol forgive my spelling. logic should be the first step to answering a question i it doesnt make sence then its like false and even if people have done stuff all thier lives that doesnt mean they know the best way theirs always a way to improve if i was everyone id take the useful stuff from UB and test it and throw out the information that you dont feel hes tested him self. NEways i think some boosters work and i also believe that hey are over priced but logic would tell you that they produce positive benifits
 
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RoninAmok

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riddleme said:
Thank You! it is a strain I bred I call it STP and it is a one hit wonder folks are goin crazy over it :)
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Really? WHERE? Got any verifiable tests as regards content? Anything? Seems like if the above was true it would be blowing up all over the place , since it's the next GSC 'n all that good stuff.
 
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RoninAmok

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bigsourD said:
Also agreed, if a "base" formula is not capable of producing healthy robust plants from start to finish, then they are bunk nutrients IMO. I've been recently using nothing but Dyna-Gro and my yeilds in hydro have actually increased.
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WHERE"S the " rep" button............ya need it for the above.

And I've said it *directly* to certain nutrient folks faces and will again. Ya advertise your " Base" as a " ComPUUUllleeetttee and TOTAL! Formula"..............why ya gotta try to sell the consumer 'eleventy million othe additives that they just " gott ahave"
in some sordid version of a Viagra ad for plants " FeEd UUUR PlanTS THIS RIGHT NOW!! and UR Buds TOO can be Big-n-HARD".

And now the nutrient companies have " discovered" molasses.........hell some of us never forgot it in the first place.
 
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Scabbio

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asaph said:
My friend was asking me, and I was wondering myself: Is it possible to run a decent grow producing excellent quality yield with reasonable yield (min. 0.5g per watt) with only basic nutrients (NPK + secondary + micro)?
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An additive that introduces beneficial microbes or mycorrhiza into the soil can help increase nutrient uptake, or at least make it more efficient. This happens in nature.
I don't use nutes, I grow in a sterilized garden soil, a clay-loam, with compost as an amendment.
This is my first grow. The plant is a beautiful dark green, thank you HPS, and I am satisfied with her progression.
Next grow I am going to add inoculated winter rye to my soil, let them gow with the plant, and see if this helps plant vigor. We will see.
hope something here helped.
 
Bryon240

Bryon240

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ok i am wondering about molasses in the last 6 weeks of flower.my growers bible doesn't say a whole lot on the topic.So since i have RIU semi pro's to talk to i am asking what amounts per gallon in soil and how often...a little with every feeding or not?The bible claims a 20% size increase.I am in week 6 of flower and want bigger-er...lol:mrgreen:
 
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Rj41

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Bryon240 said:
ok i am wondering about molasses in the last 6 weeks of flower.my growers bible doesn't say a whole lot on the topic.So since i have RIU semi pro's to talk to i am asking what amounts per gallon in soil and how often...a little with every feeding or not?The bible claims a 20% size increase.I am in week 6 of flower and want bigger-er...lol:mrgreen:
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Rule of thumb is: Dissolve 1 TABLESPOON molasses in 1 gallon of water.
You'll want to use UN-SULPHERED molasses.
Once, maybe twice during flowering. Too much will cause problems.

Next, don't believe everything you read in those grow "bibles". Not all of their claims or "facts" are true.
20% increase in size is simply not true.
Use the books as a guidelines, not as absolutes and you'll have better grows.
Also, keep asking questions.

Just a FYI, Molasses does nothing to/for your plants. It's used to feed the microbes in your soil, but more importantly it's what's called a chelating (sp? - pronounced kee-late-ing) agent. It makes nutrients that are currently not available for plant uptake, available.

I hope this helps a little bit.
 
RawBudzski

RawBudzski

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Once I learned about organics I have never looked back. Such a simple way to create dank without reading bottles or measuring stuff out.
 
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