Are MMJ patients paying illegal prices?

can.i.buz

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NOObgrOwer,

Your numbers are not even close to actual costs. If you want to defend the prices - use real numbers.
 
Most growers grow at their home so the rent is not applicable, so take the $2400 to $3000 off the top.
Even if they rented a place it wound not be for just a pound every 100 days - it would be for major weight so the rent numbers are a joke.
 
Electric costs per 1000 watts:
1000 watts x 18 hours per day is $2.34 per day x 30 days veg. is $70.20
1000 watts x 12 hours per day is $1.56 per day x 70 days bloom is $109.20

Water: - $180 to $300
Nope - Most growers use tap water, just a few bucks - $50

Nutrients:
We will use your numbers $150

CO2:
Nope - Most growers don’t use it.

Actual cost: less than $400 per 100 watts.

Add your labor:
1 hour per day per 1000 watts x 100 days is 100 hours x $25 per hour is $2500 per 1000 watts.

Total cost including your labor is less than $3000 per 1000 watts:
So a competent grower is still making $1450 to $3700 per 1000 watts on top of the $2500 for his time.

Actual compensation: $3950 to $6200 every 100 days per each 1000 watts for an hour per day investment.

There are variables that can change the above numbers, but these numbers are much more realistic than what you quoted.
You are not factoring in legal costs and risk. Setting up a legal collective can be $2000-$5000+. Getting a clean green certificate is around the same. What about the costs of making your grow stealthy? Remember rule #1. It's not inexpensive to find a way to hide your grow. What about the costs if someone finds out about your grow? Until it's totally legal, the risks that a cultivator takes certainly make their time worth more than $25 an hour. Let's be realistic.
 

figtree

Active Member
You live in a dream world and I'm SURE you have never had to pay for R&D. You probably don't even know what that means. I'm an entrepreneur. I have been all my adult life. I raised 3 children ON MY OWN while I was an entrepreneur. A lot of good ideas just suck the cash from your bank account and never produce even the $$$$ to pay back the cost of R&D. The drug companies (I admit they do a lot of evil stuff) have HUGE R&D costs. Who's going to pay for that???? Get real man.
r&d in the pharma world? we are the r&d! we see comercials for the amazing new drug that we are supposed to ask our docs about, then in 6 months you see the lawyers comercials for class action suit because its killing people.......
r&d in pharmaceutical companies?

everything else has been good debate in this thread, good points on both sides. but r&d in pharmaland is a myth. we are thier guinee pigs and we all know it.
 

can.i.buz

Well-Known Member
It takes time to become a master grower that's all I'm saying. Take a look at all the first, second and third grows of most growers. Please. What about those costs?
 
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