Are my plants a bit stretched?

worm5376

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Kriegs

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You could get closer.. I have my 400W MH 16" off the plants. Heat output varies across different bulb makes, so check the temp at different levels below the lamp. At 16", the temp at the very top of my plants is 85F, the overall room temp is 78F.

I had my light too far away at first and my plants got stretched -- the idea of putting more soil around the stem to firm them up works great. Worked for me.
 

abomb

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Lower your lights like the other guy said until its comfortable with your hand under them 400w mh or hps you should be fine @ 10-12 inches away! You lose a shit load of lumens the further you are away! I mean a lot!! 6" further you can lose 20 -30% Just keep an eye on your plants to find what works for them!
 
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THseaman

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You'd be much better off just getting Jorge Cervante's growers bible and The marijuana garden saver book by stitch than to come on here and ask for advice. There are a few people who do know what they are talking about but a lot more who don't. You're going to mess up your currently healthy plants if you listen to these guys telling you to put an oscillating fan directly on your seedlings and a 400w MH 10" away!

Seedlings only require 4000 lux to grow! A 400w MH puts out 40,000 lux at 12" away! At 2 feet a 400w puts out 10,000 Lux and at 3 feet 4,500 lux. So actually, 3 feet is perfect for seedlings if you are using a 400w. 2 feet is the absolute closest I would go at this point. It's not just about temps. When your plants start to look dehydrated and tired, try backing off the lights and turning off the fan until they are a bit bigger.

Getting back to the main point, your plants look fine. Listen to your plants but don't be one of these guys that is constantly freaking out every time a leaf curls a little bit at the tip or you see a bit of yellow. Mary is a tough girl.
 

messycan

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Thanks man. I had the bible but I misplaced it! So if I lift my lights, will the seedlings continue stretch even more? I am just worried about the stretching that is all.
 
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THseaman

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You've got another 1" at the top of your pots. I would add more soil or soilless mix to the top, raise your lights to 24" and assuming your hood is air cooled, remove the oscillating fan until week 3 or so.
 

abomb

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Keep your lights at 10'' youll be fine and you can leave the fan on low you dont have to turn it off. The fan will help cool your lights so you can keep them closer. Your girls ARE stretching if you start having problems because you lowered the lights (which you wont) u can always raise them up! More light the better your plants have a good root system by now all will be good dont let THseaman scare you !
 

chunkymunkey33

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You'd be much better off just getting Jorge Cervante's growers bible and The marijuana garden saver book by stitch than to come on here and ask for advice. There are a few people who do know what they are talking about but a lot more who don't. You're going to mess up your currently healthy plants if you listen to these guys telling you to put an oscillating fan directly on your seedlings and a 400w MH 10" away!

Seedlings only require 4000 lux to grow! A 400w MH puts out 40,000 lux at 12" away! At 2 feet a 400w puts out 10,000 Lux and at 3 feet 4,500 lux. So actually, 3 feet is perfect for seedlings if you are using a 400w. 2 feet is the absolute closest I would go at this point. It's not just about temps. When your plants start to look dehydrated and tired, try backing off the lights and turning off the fan until they are a bit bigger.

Getting back to the main point, your plants look fine. Listen to your plants but don't be one of these guys that is constantly freaking out every time a leaf curls a little bit at the tip or you see a bit of yellow. Mary is a tough girl.



Getting testy again heh? Like I said before, take it easy. It's a forum and you (just like everyone else here) are entitled to give their opinion. He didn't just ask your opinion, he asked what everyone thought. Just because you think everyone's answer is wrong doesn't mean you should get like that. And messycan, I too own the bible and I'd like to share a couple of lines from it if you don't mind. Page 324

- Air Movement- Air movement and circulation are essential to a healthy indoor harvest. Indoors, fresh air is one of the most overlooked factors contributing to a healthy garden and a bountiful harvest. Fresh air is the least expensive essential component required to produce a bumper crop. Experienced growers understand the importance of fresh air and take the time to set up an adequate ventilation system. Three factors affect air movement: stomata, ventilation, and circulation.

- Circulation
Plants use all CO2 around the leaf within a few minutes. When no new CO2-rich air replaces the used CO2-depleted air, a dead air zone forms around the leaf. This stifles stomata and virtually stops growth. If it is not actively moved, the air around leaves stratifies.

Nowhere in the Air chapter, nor any of the parts about seedlings does it say Don't put an oscillating fan on those! Just don't put it too close to them to where it's pushing them or shaking them. And as far as the light, I agree that you should lift it. At least to 18 inches, if not 24. In your first post you said you waited to turn the light on until they all sprouted, does that mean that 1 may have sprouted before others? I only see one that I'd consider stretched and I'm wondering if maybe that one sprouted before the others. Like everyone is saying, relax, it's only been 2 days. Keep us posted and good luck. chunky
 

messycan

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Yea the ones that are stretched sprouted first, and that's why its longer than the others.

Update: one of the plants drooped overnight...pic:








The one in the styrofoam cup sprouted last and its not even stretched like the others. I'm hoping that the dropped seedling will straighten itself back up with the light. I last watered two days ago, and the soil is still moist about 1.5 - 2 inches deep.

Other than that, they look healthy and are doing well :)
 

messycan

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She seems not to be straightening up...so I put crutches on her for the moment. The other 4 are looking strong :)
 

messycan

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I added more soil but going to water them tomorrow, the soil I added is a little bit moist and do not want to over-water. I need to purchase some perlite as well.

Thanks again!
 

worm5376

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i think she'll be fine. just give her a little time , she may grow up to be a runt but it's your runt!!! so take good care of her.
 
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