Are they gonna make it??

Hallo guys,

First time cloner here..

Am basically tryen to clone the best 4 plants in my flower garden (week 4 flower)..

I am using heating bad and have adjusted it on 24/25c

Also cuts has been dipped in clonex gel.

Those cuts has been taken 12 hours ago.

I dont use the dom as the cuts is alittle bit longer than the dom

And I lift water in the tray.

Some pics

Under optimal conditions a flowering plant has a slim chance of cloning off, I would also never touch a plant after it had its first 12 hour dark period, Now the plant is going to use the next week atleast trying to repare the damaged limb/wound, Time she should focus on making big juicy buds. Next time grab them when you are taking the plant down, remove most of the flowers too.

Sorry for the lecture, or if I came off as a dick. If you want the pictured clones to live get the dome over them or build a bigger one out of vapour barrier or a plastic bag. Even then dont be depressed if they dont live, you tried your hardest. But focus your time on your 4 favorite plants, dont get worry'd bout mo clones till ya harvest.

LedAenima said:

Under optimal conditions a flowering plant has a slim chance of cloning off, I would also never touch a plant after it had its first 12 hour dark period, Now the plant is going to use the next week atleast trying to repare the damaged limb/wound, Time she should focus on making big juicy buds. Next time grab them when you are taking the plant down, remove most of the flowers too.

Sorry for the lecture, or if I came off as a dick. If you want the pictured clones to live get the dome over them or build a bigger one out of vapour barrier or a plastic bag. Even then dont be depressed if they dont live, you tried your hardest. But focus your time on your 4 favorite plants, dont get worry'd bout mo clones till ya harvest.

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How I would clone them after I havrvest if the chances is already low now?

Do you mean revegging those plants after harvest??

Bubblegum31 said:

How I would clone them after I havrvest if the chances is already low now?

Do you mean revegging those plants after harvest??

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When you reveg a plant you want to leave some foliage and small buds and increase nitrogen levels. Branches grow from the nodes in the buds. as far as your flowering clones go don't feed until they get roots. I've cloned from plants that were starting to bud many times. Its a form of monster cropping and creates a big bush. They tend to take longer to grow when you do this but when they start you'll have more branches than you know what to do with. A humidity dome would be better for the first several days but it could still work.

Dr.Pecker said:

When you reveg a plant you want to leave some foliage and small buds and increase nitrogen levels. Branches grow from the nodes in the buds. as far as your flowering clones go don't feed until they get roots. I've cloned from plants that were starting to bud many times. Its a form of monster cropping and creates a big bush. They tend to take longer to grow when you do this but when they start you'll have more branches than you know what to do with. A humidity dome would be better for the first several days but it could still work.

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I got the humidity dome on them now as they have got droppy

I have sprayed them with water plus rhizoCanna.

Bubblegum31 said:

How I would clone them after I havrvest if the chances is already low now?

Do you mean revegging those plants after harvest??

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Literally just before I cut a plant from her roots, I will clip anywhere from 50-98 (1 whole sheet of rockwoll) clones from the lower under developed branches. I maybe have 10 survive out of a whole sheet. But it is still worth it, you will get a wicked bushy plant. Also I take off the buds and trim the leaf, This is my own personal choice as I have done this method dozens of times and have the best results this way... If you decide to reveg a plant and clone her then, I would not be able to give my 2cents as I have never tried to do it before and cant say on the results.

LedAenima said:

Literally just before I cut a plant from her roots, I will clip anywhere from 50-98 (1 whole sheet of rockwoll) clones from the lower under developed branches. I maybe have 10 survive out of a whole sheet. But it is still worth it, you will get a wicked bushy plant. Also I take off the buds and trim the leaf, This is my own personal choice as I have done this method dozens of times and have the best results this way... If you decide to reveg a plant and clone her then, I would not be able to give my 2cents as I have never tried to do it before and cant say on the results.

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You should be getting way more than that. Something is fundamentally wrong with your setup. Show us what your working with maybe I can help. Sometimes its strain dependent. I have a plant that takes two weeks longer to clone than all the others and I'm about 50% with her cuttings taking root but all the others are 98% successful.

Bubblegum31 said:

I got the humidity dome on them now as they have got droppy

I have sprayed them with water plus rhizoCanna.

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I don't know what rizocanna is, so I cant recommend it. I would say its unnecessary at this point. Just plain water is fine for misting. It might also help if you move them out of direct light. Ambient light is fine for cuttings.

Dr.Pecker said:

Sometimes its strain dependent I have a plant that takes two weeks longer to clone than all the others and I'm about 50% with her cuttings taking root but all the others are 98% successful.

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I should explain myself more clearly, I have had next to no clones wimper on me when I clone in veg. I only aim for the strongest and most powerful clones, If they arent taking root as fast as its siblings or are starting to look sad I pull them, I account stress to 50% of why shitty weed is shitty. Sometimes its genetics but alot of the time its user error... My first time cloning I cloned a Nirvana Bubbliscous that was 1 week into flower, It stunted growth drastically, I managed to preserve her and most of the clones survived, and buds weren't affected too bad, but I could of gotten more.

At 4 weeks OP has finished there climb and are focusing on building buds, I dont cut anything in flower unless its a sucker that is mostly 75%ish used up, typically last week or so of flower. I would just worry that the buds got airy from stress.

I feel If you are taking all this risk and spending all this money, dont waste time on anything you're not 110% sure about. I have tossed many plants for alot of stupid reasons, Now that I have a bit of freedom and no risk I can reach out and further test other things and expand my knowledge. Plus we never want space wasters

LedAenima said:

I should explain myself more clearly, I have had next to no clones wimper on me when I clone in veg. I only aim for the strongest and most powerful clones, If they arent taking root as fast as its siblings or are starting to look sad I pull them, I account stress to 50% of why shitty weed is shitty. Sometimes its genetics but alot of the time its user error... My first time cloning I cloned a Nirvana Bubbliscous that was 1 week into flower, It stunted growth drastically, I managed to preserve her and most of the clones survived, and buds weren't affected too bad, but I could of gotten more.
At 4 weeks OP has finished there climb and are focusing on building buds, I dont cut anything in flower unless its a sucker that is mostly 75%ish used up, typically last week or so of flower. I would just worry that the buds got airy from stress.

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I'm not sure what you're getting at. That doesn't help me resolve your low rooting percentage but okay. this is a clone from a plant that had started to flower by the end of summer it was about 8 feet tall and scrogged. Not really sure why stunted growth for a few weeks is a problem. here's another one done the same way.

LedAenima said:

I should explain myself more clearly, I have had next to no clones wimper on me when I clone in veg. I only aim for the strongest and most powerful clones, If they arent taking root as fast as its siblings or are starting to look sad I pull them, I account stress to 50% of why shitty weed is shitty. Sometimes its genetics but alot of the time its user error... My first time cloning I cloned a Nirvana Bubbliscous that was 1 week into flower, It stunted growth drastically, I managed to preserve her and most of the clones survived, and buds weren't affected too bad, but I could of gotten more.

At 4 weeks OP has finished there climb and are focusing on building buds, I dont cut anything in flower unless its a sucker that is mostly 75%ish used up, typically last week or so of flower. I would just worry that the buds got airy from stress.

I feel If you are taking all this risk and spending all this money, dont waste time on anything you're not 110% sure about. I have tossed many plants for alot of stupid reasons, Now that I have a bit of freedom and no risk I can reach out and further test other things and expand my knowledge. Plus we never want space wasters

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Taking clones in flower is called Monster Cropping, best done on day 21. Monster Cropped clones can take longer to root, if in flower they need time to re-veg, once they do (re-veg) they take off like crazy. I've been doin it for years, it is how I take ALL my clones

Dr.Pecker said:

You should be getting way more than that. Something is fundamentally wrong with your setup. Show us what your working with maybe I can help. Sometimes its strain dependent. I have a plant that takes two weeks longer to clone than all the others and I'm about 50% with her cuttings taking root but all the others are 98% successful.
I don't know what rizocanna is, so I cant recommend it. I would say its unnecessary at this point. Just plain water is fine for misting. It might also help if you move them out of direct light. Ambient light is fine for cuttings.

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Canna Rhizotonic

Benefits of CANNA RHIZOTONIC:

• Stimulates new root growth on cuttings and transplants.
  Besides stimulating root growth on plants that are already rooted, RHIZOTONIC also stimulates new root growth on cuttings and transplants. The various trace elements and vitamins such as B1&B2 stimulate the production of hormones and root growth, thus providing beautiful, strong white roots.
• Speeds up the germination process when used to soak seeds prior to planting.
  If you dilute RHIZOTONIC (15 ml/gallon), you can use it to soak seeds. RHIZOTONIC softens up the seed skin, making it easier for the seed to burst and germinate.
• Enhances overall plant growth and chemical reactions in the plant to ensure a healthy, powerful and strong plant.
  Good results start with a healthy plant. Because RHIZOTONIC stimulates root growth, it improves the strength of a plant. This is especially important during the first weeks of a plant's life, since young plants are the most vulnerable. RHIZOTONIC stimulates further root development, increases the plant’s resistance to diseases and promotes its inner and outer strength.
• Aids in the recovery process of any plant or cutting that has been subjected to stress in any way whatsoever.
  Many growers agree that plants recover much quicker from stress situations if the leaves have been sprayed with RHIZOTONIC. Such stress situations could for example occur during transport and re-potting plants. RHIZOTONIC will also improve plants that are unhealthy or poorly developed. Bold claims, let me know how well it works.

Dr.Pecker said:

Benefits of CANNA RHIZOTONIC:

• Stimulates new root growth on cuttings and transplants.
  Besides stimulating root growth on plants that are already rooted, RHIZOTONIC also stimulates new root growth on cuttings and transplants. The various trace elements and vitamins such as B1&B2 stimulate the production of hormones and root growth, thus providing beautiful, strong white roots.
• Speeds up the germination process when used to soak seeds prior to planting.
  If you dilute RHIZOTONIC (15 ml/gallon), you can use it to soak seeds. RHIZOTONIC softens up the seed skin, making it easier for the seed to burst and germinate.
• Enhances overall plant growth and chemical reactions in the plant to ensure a healthy, powerful and strong plant.
  Good results start with a healthy plant. Because RHIZOTONIC stimulates root growth, it improves the strength of a plant. This is especially important during the first weeks of a plant's life, since young plants are the most vulnerable. RHIZOTONIC stimulates further root development, increases the plant’s resistance to diseases and promotes its inner and outer strength.
• Aids in the recovery process of any plant or cutting that has been subjected to stress in any way whatsoever.
  Many growers agree that plants recover much quicker from stress situations if the leaves have been sprayed with RHIZOTONIC. Such stress situations could for example occur during transport and re-potting plants. RHIZOTONIC will also improve plants that are unhealthy or poorly developed. Bold claims, let me know how well it works.

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Well do mate..

Just took alook and it seems that some of the hair is turning red!!!!!



Is this is normal??

Could be the water. Put the dome on and quit messing with them. Spray once a day and keep the root riots moist, let them air out twice a day when the dome gets foggy to keep the mold down. I get faster roots with indirect light or at least lower lighting. The light for the clones should be on 24 hours a day btw. The heat mat should be between 70 and 78 degrees.

What could be wrong with the water?

Dr.Pecker said:

Could be the water. Put the dome on and quit messing with them. Spray once a day and keep the root riots moist, let them air out twice a day when the dome gets foggy to keep the mold down. I get faster roots with indirect light or at least lower lighting. The light for the clones should be on 24 hours a day btw. The heat mat should be between 70 and 78 degrees.

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I do try to do all what you have mentioned as I read pretty good b4 the attempt of cloning them but ya sure reall life is different than reading ha,, thats why am tryen to get the opinions from our respectfull memebers in this great forum...
Thx doc..

Bubblegum31 said:

What could be wrong with the water?

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mist the inside of the dome instead of the plants. Water droplets between the hairs can result in mold which would kill the hairs and clones. water can also burn plant tissue. This is why we don't spray plants when the lights are on. I know a guy that almost burned down the greenhouse because it had water on the roof. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1242175/Sun-shining-Then-dont-water-plants.html http://www.mnn.com/your-home/at-home/stories/watering-your-garden-in-the-midday-sun-can-burn-plants people say this is true people say its not true. Lots of study's myth and fact. That's one reason not to use direct light. less light also tends to help in root development.