Are You About Decriminalization, Legalization?

are you about legalization,decriminalization?

  • yes

    Votes: 53 89.8%
  • no

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • whatever

    Votes: 6 10.2%

  • Total voters
    59

jesus3

Well-Known Member
are you about marijuana legalization,decriminalization?reasons why?i'm about legalization about small amount of weed on you and about 2-4 plant growing for person for personal use.i cant see something bad in marijuana.and my wife don't have headaches any more after my first harvest.she have 5 concussions of brains in the past.and doctors prescriptions drugs are fuc... expensive and addictive. btw my wife never use them.
 

Microdizzey

Well-Known Member
i'm definitely for decriminalization. complete legalization of possession and growing. it's a plant, it should be allowed to grow like all the others, if it's legal.

reasons:
- it's safe, won't kill you.
- you can't overdose.
- can't get severely addicted like hard drugs.
- has a list of benefits. (helps depression, anxiety, headaches, stomache pains, ect.)
- apparently thc has cancer blocking stuff in it, so that's a plus.
- you don't get aggressive/angry while stoned.
- it helps people eat more if they have an eating issue.
- you think more positively and more deeply into a situation. (unless you're too stoned to think) :blsmoke:
- makes you very relaxed and less stressed out about life.

there's other things but for now i can't think of anymore :peace:
 

elbow

Active Member
Full legalization. Society is harmed more by Coca Cola than demon weed. Grow all you want, but there would be little incentive to distribute because of no prohibition profits. I don't think I can support driving stoned eventhough its much better than driving drunk. Other than OUI, its nobody's business if I blaze up.
 

overgrowem

Well-Known Member
are you about marijuana legalization,decriminalization?reasons why?i'm about legalization about small amount of weed on you and about 2-4 plant growing for person for personal use.i cant see something bad in marijuana.and my wife don't have headaches any more after my first harvest.she have 5 concussions of brains in the past.and doctors prescriptions drugs are fuc... expensive and addictive. btw my wife never use them.
"We can't legalize it there is too much money involved" Hillary Clinton, 2010.Millions of people are staying out of poverty or living a little better life than our $9.00 an hour economy will allow.Go legal and their buying power disapears. 100,000 to 200,000 IMO will be able to make a living in the MJ. business nation wide,many of those at race to the bottom wages.KEEP THE PROHABITION PREMIUM.
 

Rancho Cucamonga

Active Member
I'm against legalization for taxation. I don't want state or federal governments getting MORE tax money from people who already pay taxes in multiple forms. Governments are horrible at spending other peoples money, why on earth would anyone wish to give them more? Does anyone here honestly believe one, that giving government more money is a good thing, that they will spend it properly? And second, does anyone think that government won't consistently pass new taxes and regulations that will not only raise prices over time but create a type of power vacuum in the industry that will basically destroy all the small marijuana businesses and create corporate type entities that rule it? I could go on and on about the cons of giving gov more $ and allowing controlled "free market" mentality(insanity) in the marijuana industry.

I'm not for most types of de-criminalization. Sure, it keeps one from going to jail for small possession but you still get your dope taken away and receive a fine. What's de-criminal about that? I would vote for de-criminal though if I could, but legalization for taxation never.

I'm for re-scheduling marijuana, to schedule VI, which doesn't exist because the schedules only go to V(over the counter drugs). I want marijuana possession and cultivation to be legal and free from taxes and regulations, or I don't want any changes at all. I don't care about the legalization of sales, it wouldn't matter in a society where marijuana is free of laws and taxes.

Federally marijuana will probably never be legal or re-scheduled, it would take an act of congress and a president to do this and there is just too much power in government against it, even though it would be a cash cow for many. State by state it's a flip of the coin for half the nation, the other half will never see legalization, mostly southeast, midwest and the south. There are current bills in many state governments for 2013 that deals with legalization or the medical issue, but most of those are for studies to see if there should be a vote in the future. OR would be the best bet for any state to legalize at the end of 2013. Cali it still seems to be a tough sell, I see more de-criminal there and most states in the west. I imagine there will be a breakout state somewhere in the northeast that will legalize and that may help spread some influence around that area but for the most part most states will not adopt legalization. Especially if the economy keeps surging, if that takes another hit in 2013-14, maybe a few more will turn to legalization. BUT. We have to remember ONE important thing. The state governments are not interested in legalizing marijuana to please people or to get votes, pro-folks come from all political parties, the governments are only interested in THE MONEY. Think about it.

My 2 1/2 cents.
 

ReefBongwell

Well-Known Member
are you about marijuana legalization,decriminalization?reasons why?i'm about legalization about small amount of weed on you and about 2-4 plant growing for person for personal use.i cant see something bad in marijuana.and my wife don't have headaches any more after my first harvest.she have 5 concussions of brains in the past.and doctors prescriptions drugs are fuc... expensive and addictive. btw my wife never use them.
I don't see why people see decriminalization or limits as acceptable. Why do you think it's ok for small amounts and 2-4 plants but not ok for more? Why should anyone ever be penalized or put in jail for it, EVER? If you commit a real crime, you should go to jail for the real crime. This is a fucking plant. I'll take decriminalization or limits if it's all I can get -- I'm a realist and realize we're lucky if we get that the way things are in this country. But is that what I want? No, not at all. I feel way more understanding someone who is for prohibition of everything than someone who is for half measures. I don't agree with your viewpoint if you're a prohibitionist, but if you're consistent and think beer and everything should be not allowed, I sure respect that more than someone who says beer is ok but marijuana is not, or who really advocate for decriminalization or limits but think full legalization is wrong. WTF? Doesn't make sense to me. It's either OK or it's not. It's a question of liberty for me. I don't really feel it's anybody's position to tell me how to live my life unless I'm harming someone else and infringing on their rights. Yes, I'm a libertarian in case you can't tell ;)

I'm not one of those people who say cannabis can't have negative consequences. But so can 1,000 other things in life that are completely legal. Tons of ways to ruin your life if you can't control yourself -- we don't make being fat illegal. Gambling's legal most places. I can go do extreme sports until I manage to Darwin myself. I can smoke cigarettes. Destroy my liver or pancreas with alcohol. Take myself out on legal prescription meds. I mean do we really need to go on there are tons of less obtrusive but equally legal and ruinous ways to live your life. This whole drug war is just one big manifestation of the desire to control the lives of others, IMO one of the worst traits of human beings.
 

mtgeezer

Well-Known Member
Decriminalization on a federal level would be heading us in the right direction but it still leaves cannabis as an illegal substance and therefore dispensaries and caregivers are still operating in a gray zone and keeps the door open for more federal abuse and persecution. Legalization is, by far, the best option especially now in this economic crisis. Only through legalization could we free to buy and sell, pay sales taxes on our purchases, pay payroll taxes to employees, collect and pay Social Security and MediCare contributions, income tax and so on. Sounds like a grind but we all have to pitch in and SHOW Washington that cannabis and hemp ARE good for the economy and if that's what stabilizes our economy then so be it!

BTW, one major benefit of this would eventually be lower market prices for, at least, medical cannabis and cannabis products.
 

ricky1lung

Well-Known Member
Im about walking outside smoking a joint, maybe buying some in a 7-11 but I would prefer to grow.
If I wanted to go to a "cafe" and watch a game or a fight with some friends I should be able to and
have my edibles and smoke a fat blunt outside (cause smoking isnt allowed indoors and Im fine with that)

People shouldn't be in fear of consuming a product that is proven to be far less harmful to people than
script meds.
The only reason it is illegal is because the Organized Crime aspects. May it be cartels that
gain profit by a lucrative black market enabled by the restrictions imposed by law or the legal Organized Crime
that sell the legal script drugs and lobby to keep weed illegal.

Fuck them, Im gonna smoke it anyways and they can blow it out their asses.
So really in the end I suppose decrim, legal or not it wont make much difference to me.
 
Im about walking outside smoking a joint, maybe buying some in a 7-11 but I would prefer to grow.
If I wanted to go to a "cafe" and watch a game or a fight with some friends I should be able to and
have my edibles and smoke a fat blunt outside (cause smoking isnt allowed indoors and Im fine with that)

People shouldn't be in fear of consuming a product that is proven to be far less harmful to people than
script meds.
The only reason it is illegal is because the Organized Crime aspects. May it be cartels that
gain profit by a lucrative black market enabled by the restrictions imposed by law or the legal Organized Crime
that sell the legal script drugs and lobby to keep weed illegal.

Fuck them, Im gonna smoke it anyways and they can blow it out their asses.
So really in the end I suppose decrim, legal or not it wont make much difference to me.
I think that organized crime is not the cause of the illegality of marijuana. I think they exist because of Marijuana and other drugs being illegal. Organized crime suggest that people organized themselves together to commit a crime as drug dealing and drug smuggling.

Either way I think it should be legalized and that it could become like alcohol to an extent. The only fear I have is that corporations would essentially take over the industry and that premium products would drop dramatically in price and quality as well as quantity. I would liken it to having to go to a brewhouse for your good beer instead of the local supermarket for crappy beer. I also fear then that the corporations that take it over will lobby to make it harder to grow in your own home in order to eliminate competition and people with a better product. It is a lot of work to grow weed and most people will not put that kind of effort in and will just buy it at the store. The same reason they do not brew their own alcoholic beverages.
 

jawa

Member
I'm not for any of it. I work a minimum wage job and go to college. An ounce of anything with a name sells for $400 to $500 where I am. I've put myself through college as a middleman and plan to pay my last year with my summer grow. What would prices be like if it were legal? Yeah, it would be nice not having to worry about federal consequences but as it stands now I make a killing and I'm not in the mood for it to change anytime soon.
 

jeff1

Active Member
If legalized there will always be a market for Honest organic medicine. one may have to work a little harder but in the end it will be easier to produce. I believe the higher powers would want total control of distribution and manufacturing because of the potential profit. We still have a long way to go the fed is not making things easy and the way it looks I think states may let them have there way =( Think about it for something as amazing as cannabis one cant plant a seed and harvest prescription pain killers or libido enhancers.
 

kerr420

New Member
100% decriminalization and legalization. It is a staple plant that the world has been using for millions of years.
 

RonMM

New Member
The most realistic goal would be for the Federal Government to first decriminalize marijuana, this would give individual states a huge push towards local decriminalization and legalization reforms, ultimately legalization by the Federal Government is necessary but in a bureaucracy like the U.S.A. changes are usually incremental.

Anyhow we need to keep the pressure on our governments both local, state and federal to decriminalize and legalize marijuana!

Please help get the petition linked below signed, it would be great if this petition takes off and goes viral but to have a chance we need 150 signatures just to get it viewable on the whitehouse website. We only have about 20 days left, If this one doesn't take off we still need to keep on trying and put more up so we will not be ignored!


To all who favor freedom,

Our nation watches and the resolve builds to end Marijuana Prohibition in the United States of America.


We have to keep the pressure on our government to decriminalize marijuana.


Please sign the new whitehouse petition,


http://wh.gov/lOmFK


Decriminalize marijuana, and pardon all marijuana convictions. Over 100,000,000 U.S. Citizens have used marijuana.

With over 500,000 marijuana arrests costing over $13 billion annually, and with more than half of U.S. Citizens favoring legalization the time is here to end marijuana prohibition.

Marijuana prohibition is very costly to society, wasting billions of dollars and billions of hours in law enforcement, justice system and penal system time, it also destroys families and personal lives and futures.

The effects of marijuana both physically and socially are less harmful than alcohol or tobacco, and adults should be entitled to make the decision whether or not to consume marijuana.

It's time to finally put an end to the criminalization of marijuana, This would not only allow our government to save billions of dollars, but could be a source of income and bring in billions of dollars in revenue.

Please help to spread the word on any social media you can, we need this petition to go VIRAL!

Thank you,

RonM
 

Collisto's Orbit

Well-Known Member
Decriminalization seems to always include keeping home-growing and selling to others illegal, so it is because of that, I am opposed. I want the feds (FBI, DEA, ATF) out of marijuana law enforcement. We must fight for personal levels of possession, cultivation and selling to be legal and unregulated. Let the large scale growers deal with taxes and regulations.

Of course if decriminalization is the way society heads, it's better than total illegalization and imprisonment.
 
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