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Trump-friendly Cyber Ninjas group refused to comply with House probe of Arizona vote audit, Democrats say
Cyber Ninjas, the private firm leading a partisan and much-criticized audit of millions of ballots cast in Arizona during the 2020 election, has refused to comply with a congressional probe into the company, House Democrats said.
In a letter dated Sunday to Cyber Ninjas CEO Douglas Logan, the Democrats said they “will be forced to consider other steps to obtain compliance” if the company “continues to obstruct” their investigation.
In mid-July, House Oversight Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., and civil rights subcommittee Chairman Jamie Raskin, D-Md., told Logan they sought records as part of a review into whether his company’s actions are intended to “reverse the result of a free and fair election for partisan gain.”
They asked for those documents, which included information about who is paying for the effort, by July 28.
But after receiving an extension to file the materials by Aug. 9, Cyber Ninjas “sent a letter objecting to all nine of the Committee’s requests,” Maloney and Raskin said in Monday’s letter.
“Cyber Ninjas failed to produce key documents responsive to the Committee’s requests,” they said, including its communications with Trump, the Arizona state Senate and “the partisan dark money groups that financed this audit.”
The company objected on the grounds that the lawmakers’ requests were “vague,” “poorly-defined” or “overburdensome.” But the Democrats said none of those objections provided “a legitimate justification to obstruct the Committee’s inquiry.”
Maloney and Raskin also responded to Cyber Ninjas’ repeated assertions that the documents are protected by attorney-client privilege, calling those claims “patently invalid” and “based on a fundamental misunderstanding of Congress’s authorities.”
The Democrats told Logan they would grant Cyber Ninjas one additional extension, giving them until Aug. 27 to voluntarily share the requested documents.
“If your company, which purports to be acting in a lawful manner pursuing the public interest, continues to obstruct the Committee’s investigation, the Committee will be forced to consider other steps to obtain compliance,” the letter said.
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Cyber Ninjas, the private firm leading a partisan and much-criticized audit of millions of ballots cast in Arizona during the 2020 election, has refused to comply with a congressional probe into the company, House Democrats said.
In a letter dated Sunday to Cyber Ninjas CEO Douglas Logan, the Democrats said they “will be forced to consider other steps to obtain compliance” if the company “continues to obstruct” their investigation.
In mid-July, House Oversight Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y., and civil rights subcommittee Chairman Jamie Raskin, D-Md., told Logan they sought records as part of a review into whether his company’s actions are intended to “reverse the result of a free and fair election for partisan gain.”
They asked for those documents, which included information about who is paying for the effort, by July 28.
But after receiving an extension to file the materials by Aug. 9, Cyber Ninjas “sent a letter objecting to all nine of the Committee’s requests,” Maloney and Raskin said in Monday’s letter.
“Cyber Ninjas failed to produce key documents responsive to the Committee’s requests,” they said, including its communications with Trump, the Arizona state Senate and “the partisan dark money groups that financed this audit.”
The company objected on the grounds that the lawmakers’ requests were “vague,” “poorly-defined” or “overburdensome.” But the Democrats said none of those objections provided “a legitimate justification to obstruct the Committee’s inquiry.”
Maloney and Raskin also responded to Cyber Ninjas’ repeated assertions that the documents are protected by attorney-client privilege, calling those claims “patently invalid” and “based on a fundamental misunderstanding of Congress’s authorities.”
The Democrats told Logan they would grant Cyber Ninjas one additional extension, giving them until Aug. 27 to voluntarily share the requested documents.
“If your company, which purports to be acting in a lawful manner pursuing the public interest, continues to obstruct the Committee’s investigation, the Committee will be forced to consider other steps to obtain compliance,” the letter said.
Trump-friendly Cyber Ninjas delay report on Arizona election because CEO, 2 others are 'quite sick' with Covid
Elsewhere, House Democrats said they "will be forced to consider other steps to obtain compliance" if Cyber Ninjas "continues to obstruct" their investigation.
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Arizona audit report delayed following COVID outbreak on Cyber Ninjas team
The draft report for the partisan Arizona election audit has been delayed after several members of the team doing the audit contracted COVID-19.
On Monday, Aug. 23, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann said Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan and two other members of the five-person audit team “tested positive for COVID-19 and are quite sick.”
The draft report was supposed to be delivered to the Arizona Senate Monday, but it was unclear if it was going to be released to the public.
Fann also claimed the draft report was delayed because Maricopa County did not deliver images of the ballot envelopes until Thursday of last week.
“(We) are hoping to have those analyzed as soon as possible to incorporate those results into the final report,” Fann said of the ballot envelopes.
The Senate’s legal team is set to meet Wednesday to review the draft report.
When the Cyber Ninjas’ full report is submitted, Fann said the Senate team will “check for accuracy, clarity, and proof of documentation” before it is presented to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
After that, the full report will be released to the public.
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The draft report for the partisan Arizona election audit has been delayed after several members of the team doing the audit contracted COVID-19.
On Monday, Aug. 23, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann said Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan and two other members of the five-person audit team “tested positive for COVID-19 and are quite sick.”
The draft report was supposed to be delivered to the Arizona Senate Monday, but it was unclear if it was going to be released to the public.
Fann also claimed the draft report was delayed because Maricopa County did not deliver images of the ballot envelopes until Thursday of last week.
“(We) are hoping to have those analyzed as soon as possible to incorporate those results into the final report,” Fann said of the ballot envelopes.
The Senate’s legal team is set to meet Wednesday to review the draft report.
When the Cyber Ninjas’ full report is submitted, Fann said the Senate team will “check for accuracy, clarity, and proof of documentation” before it is presented to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
After that, the full report will be released to the public.
Arizona audit report delayed following COVID outbreak on Cyber Ninjas team
The draft report for the partisan Arizona election audit has been delayed after several members of the team doing the audit contracted COVID-19.
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Their mommies wrote the note to the principal. They did not get their homework in on time.
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Election audit report not expected for at least three more weeks
In a brief order Tuesday, the Arizona Supreme Court said it will not decide the issue of whether those records are subject to public disclosure until at least Sept. 14.
More to the point, the full court kept in place a stay that had been granted by Kathryn King. She had agreed to delay the order from the state Court of Appeals requiring the Senate to immediately produce anything in the hands of the private firm it hired to conduct the review of the 2020 general election.
In the meantime, however, the justices reminded the Senate that it already has agreed to produce those documents in the hands of not just lawmakers but also Ken Bennett whom Senate President Karen Fann hired to act as the liaison between her and Cyber Ninjas. And that is supposed to occur by the end of the month.
Tuesday's order is at least an interim setback for American Oversight, the self-proclaimed watchdog organization which filed suit earlier this year seeking all records related to the audit.
But it could be more than that.
In agreeing to review the appellate court order, the justices essentially have indicated that there may be some merit to arguments by Kory Langhofer, the attorney for the Senate, that his client is not required to obtain — and publicly disclose — documents not in its possession. Potentially more significant, what the court ultimately decides on that issue could set precedent for all future public records cases.
Langhofer said the Senate recognizes its obligation to produce records actually held by the Senate, with exceptions for those which may be protected due to things like privilege or confidentiality. But he argued there is no obligation of the Senate to produce records that it does not have, meaning those in the hands of Cyber Ninjas.
To date, that argument has gained no traction.
A trial judge ordered the Senate to begin taking possession of those Cyber Ninjas records immediately and start disclosing them. And Langhofer had no luck in his bid to get the Court of Appeals to stay that order.
"Public officials must make and maintain records reasonably necessary to provide knowledge of all activities they undertake in furtherance of their duties," wrote appellate Judge Maria Elena Cruz just this past week. And she pointed out that the audit of the election is a public function being carried out by the Senate within its constitutional powers as well as an official legislative activity.
"There is no dispute that that the audit is being conducted with public funds, and that Cyber Ninjas and its sub-vendors are agents of the Senate," Cruz said.
"In this case the Senate has argued no exemption that, if properly recognized, would shield itself from the responsibility to inform the public of activities regarding the audit," she said. "The requested records are no less public records because they are in the possession of a third party, Cyber Ninjas."
It is that ruling that Langhofer now is trying to get the Supreme Court to void.
The justices, without tipping their hand on what they think of his claims, apparently are willing to listen to all arguments.
They agreed to accept any "friend of the court" briefs until Aug. 31 from those who have something to say, with a Sept. 7 deadline for those who want to respond. And the justices said they will confer — not in public — on the issue on Sept. 14.
More time to spend collecting money from the faithful (sheep).
In a brief order Tuesday, the Arizona Supreme Court said it will not decide the issue of whether those records are subject to public disclosure until at least Sept. 14.
More to the point, the full court kept in place a stay that had been granted by Kathryn King. She had agreed to delay the order from the state Court of Appeals requiring the Senate to immediately produce anything in the hands of the private firm it hired to conduct the review of the 2020 general election.
In the meantime, however, the justices reminded the Senate that it already has agreed to produce those documents in the hands of not just lawmakers but also Ken Bennett whom Senate President Karen Fann hired to act as the liaison between her and Cyber Ninjas. And that is supposed to occur by the end of the month.
Tuesday's order is at least an interim setback for American Oversight, the self-proclaimed watchdog organization which filed suit earlier this year seeking all records related to the audit.
But it could be more than that.
In agreeing to review the appellate court order, the justices essentially have indicated that there may be some merit to arguments by Kory Langhofer, the attorney for the Senate, that his client is not required to obtain — and publicly disclose — documents not in its possession. Potentially more significant, what the court ultimately decides on that issue could set precedent for all future public records cases.
Langhofer said the Senate recognizes its obligation to produce records actually held by the Senate, with exceptions for those which may be protected due to things like privilege or confidentiality. But he argued there is no obligation of the Senate to produce records that it does not have, meaning those in the hands of Cyber Ninjas.
To date, that argument has gained no traction.
A trial judge ordered the Senate to begin taking possession of those Cyber Ninjas records immediately and start disclosing them. And Langhofer had no luck in his bid to get the Court of Appeals to stay that order.
"Public officials must make and maintain records reasonably necessary to provide knowledge of all activities they undertake in furtherance of their duties," wrote appellate Judge Maria Elena Cruz just this past week. And she pointed out that the audit of the election is a public function being carried out by the Senate within its constitutional powers as well as an official legislative activity.
"There is no dispute that that the audit is being conducted with public funds, and that Cyber Ninjas and its sub-vendors are agents of the Senate," Cruz said.
"In this case the Senate has argued no exemption that, if properly recognized, would shield itself from the responsibility to inform the public of activities regarding the audit," she said. "The requested records are no less public records because they are in the possession of a third party, Cyber Ninjas."
It is that ruling that Langhofer now is trying to get the Supreme Court to void.
The justices, without tipping their hand on what they think of his claims, apparently are willing to listen to all arguments.
They agreed to accept any "friend of the court" briefs until Aug. 31 from those who have something to say, with a Sept. 7 deadline for those who want to respond. And the justices said they will confer — not in public — on the issue on Sept. 14.
Election audit report not expected for at least three more weeks
PHOENIX — It’s going to be at least another three weeks before Arizonans have any chance of getting access to all of the documents in the hands of Cyber Ninjas
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More time to spend collecting money from the faithful (sheep).
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What a joke. How could this be seen as anything other than a farce?
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"The Fake Americans are doing all they can to take over Our country."
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Arizona GOP Chair Ward to Newsmax: Audit Report 'Not Really Delayed'
"It's not really delayed," Ward said on Newsmax's "American Agenda." "What we've been told is that the last week of August or the first week of September is when the public could start to expect to see some of these reports. The state Senate has partial information in front of them right now that is being reviewed for clarity and accuracy, to make sure that there is proper documentation of everything that is going to be presented to the public."
However, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, said in a statement on Twitter Monday that the full report is delayed because three members of the Cyber Ninjas, the Florida team conducting the GOP-backed audit, are "quite sick" with COVID-19.
"The team expected to have the full draft ready for the Senate today, but unfortunately Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan and two other members of the five-person audit team have tested positive for COVID-19 and are quite sick," Fann said.
Ward told Newsmax that there are 1.9 million ballot envelope images that have to be examined, to determine if Maricopa County "accepted blank boxes" or "nothing that looks like a signature."
"Remember, out of those nearly 2 million ballots that were mailed in, they only rejected 587," she said.
Meanwhile, Maricopa County officials posted a statement on Twitter insisting that it ran free and fair elections, and has the checks and balances, along with court rulings to prove its stance.
"We don't even know who's running Maricopa county's Twitter account," Ward said. "They're trying to run the government through Twitter. It's ridiculous. They should be corresponding, communicating with the professional audit team that is on the ground. If they believe that their election was so transparent, so 100% accurate why have they put stumbling blocks in every step of the way?"
The courts have also ruled that the county's officials must comply with legislative subpoenas, said Ward, and it is her opinion that the county is in contempt of the state Senate for not surrounding routers or other sought items.
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"It's not really delayed," Ward said on Newsmax's "American Agenda." "What we've been told is that the last week of August or the first week of September is when the public could start to expect to see some of these reports. The state Senate has partial information in front of them right now that is being reviewed for clarity and accuracy, to make sure that there is proper documentation of everything that is going to be presented to the public."
However, Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, said in a statement on Twitter Monday that the full report is delayed because three members of the Cyber Ninjas, the Florida team conducting the GOP-backed audit, are "quite sick" with COVID-19.
"The team expected to have the full draft ready for the Senate today, but unfortunately Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan and two other members of the five-person audit team have tested positive for COVID-19 and are quite sick," Fann said.
Ward told Newsmax that there are 1.9 million ballot envelope images that have to be examined, to determine if Maricopa County "accepted blank boxes" or "nothing that looks like a signature."
"Remember, out of those nearly 2 million ballots that were mailed in, they only rejected 587," she said.
Meanwhile, Maricopa County officials posted a statement on Twitter insisting that it ran free and fair elections, and has the checks and balances, along with court rulings to prove its stance.
"We don't even know who's running Maricopa county's Twitter account," Ward said. "They're trying to run the government through Twitter. It's ridiculous. They should be corresponding, communicating with the professional audit team that is on the ground. If they believe that their election was so transparent, so 100% accurate why have they put stumbling blocks in every step of the way?"
The courts have also ruled that the county's officials must comply with legislative subpoenas, said Ward, and it is her opinion that the county is in contempt of the state Senate for not surrounding routers or other sought items.
Arizona GOP Chair Ward to Newsmax: Audit Report 'Not Really Delayed'
The audit report that was to have been delivered Tuesday in the review of the 2020 election results from Maricopa County, Arizona, will still be out around the end of the month, Arizona Republican Party Chairwoman Dr. Kelli Ward tells Newsmax.
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Seems to be the theme for the whole Trump presidency
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Arizona judge orders Cyber Ninjas to preserve all records in 2020 election audit
The order was made in a case brought forward by the Republic. There are currently two lawsuits seeking the release of these records, with another brought forward by the group American Oversight, which is suing the Arizona state Senate.
Cyber Ninjas had argued that records connected to their audit of the 2020 election in Maricopa County are not subject to Arizona's Public Records Law which would require them to be disclosed. The Republic is arguing that since the audit is being conducted under the orders of the state Senate, the records must be made public.
However, the Republic noted that Maricopa County Superior Court Judge John Hannah did not order Cyber Ninjas to immediately disclose their records, as a similar order from a different judge had recently been placed on hold by the Arizona Supreme Court. As such, Hannah ordered that records be preserved until litigation is settled.
"All defendants, including Cyber Ninjas, are ordered to carefully secure, protect and preserve from deterioration, mutilation, loss or destruction any and all records in their custody, possession or control that are reasonably necessary or appropriate to maintain an accurate knowledge of their official activities concerning the 2020 Maricopa County election audit, including records of the performance, funding and staffing of said audit," he wrote in his ruling.
Earlier in August, the Arizona Court of Appeals ruled that contractors leading the audit must turn over their documents as part of American Oversight's lawsuit against the state legislature.
"The Senate defendants, as officers and a public body under the [records law], have a duty to maintain and produce public records related to their official duties," the judges wrote in their ruling.
"This includes the public records created in connection with the audit of a separate governmental agency, authorized by the legislative branch of state government and performed by the Senate’s agents."
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The order was made in a case brought forward by the Republic. There are currently two lawsuits seeking the release of these records, with another brought forward by the group American Oversight, which is suing the Arizona state Senate.
Cyber Ninjas had argued that records connected to their audit of the 2020 election in Maricopa County are not subject to Arizona's Public Records Law which would require them to be disclosed. The Republic is arguing that since the audit is being conducted under the orders of the state Senate, the records must be made public.
However, the Republic noted that Maricopa County Superior Court Judge John Hannah did not order Cyber Ninjas to immediately disclose their records, as a similar order from a different judge had recently been placed on hold by the Arizona Supreme Court. As such, Hannah ordered that records be preserved until litigation is settled.
"All defendants, including Cyber Ninjas, are ordered to carefully secure, protect and preserve from deterioration, mutilation, loss or destruction any and all records in their custody, possession or control that are reasonably necessary or appropriate to maintain an accurate knowledge of their official activities concerning the 2020 Maricopa County election audit, including records of the performance, funding and staffing of said audit," he wrote in his ruling.
Earlier in August, the Arizona Court of Appeals ruled that contractors leading the audit must turn over their documents as part of American Oversight's lawsuit against the state legislature.
"The Senate defendants, as officers and a public body under the [records law], have a duty to maintain and produce public records related to their official duties," the judges wrote in their ruling.
"This includes the public records created in connection with the audit of a separate governmental agency, authorized by the legislative branch of state government and performed by the Senate’s agents."
Arizona judge orders Cyber Ninjas to preserve all records in 2020 election audit
An Arizona judge on Wednesday ruled that Cyber Ninjas, the company leading the GOP-backed election audit in Arizona, must preserve all records from their process so they can be released to the publ…
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cyber ninjas is such a stupid name, or would be if the audit were serious business.
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Arizona AG: Maricopa County violated law by not complying with Senate subpoena for 2020 election audit
Attorney General Mark Brnovich issued the decision after a Republican senator asked him if Maricopa County’s refusal to hand over routers, passwords and other items the Senate says it needs to complete the unprecedented partisan review violated state law.
The Senate issued the subpoena on July 26, and county officials said in a letter that they had either already provided all the information they had, they did not have access to that information, or that releasing that information would pose too much of a security risk.
The county has turned over its vote-counting machines, servers and huge amounts of data but balked at handing over routers its uses county-wide and passwords it says it does not control. It has said the routers were never connected to election tabulation equipment but were used by every county department, including the sheriff’s office, and that turning them over would compromise sensitive law enforcement information.
The county has until Sept. 27 to comply or it will lose all the revenue it gets from the state — about 25% of its budget, which was $2.8 billion in 2020.
The latest subpoena demanded that the county turn over the envelopes from all mail-in ballots or images of them, network routers and traffic logs, detailed voter registration records with change histories, and records related to security breaches of election systems.
"On the passwords they've asked for, we told them before we don't have those passwords. We still don't have those passwords. It's kind of odd they asked for them because they gave us back those machines last week," said Maricopa County Supervisor Bill Gates.
The mostly Republican Board of Supervisors met in a closed-door executive session to discuss the new subpoenas. The requests for routers and passwords were already.
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So they will say the Ninja Audit will not be complete without the information, stretching this out until Sept 27. And then the Ninja team will need a few months to complete it, more delays to follow.
Attorney General Mark Brnovich issued the decision after a Republican senator asked him if Maricopa County’s refusal to hand over routers, passwords and other items the Senate says it needs to complete the unprecedented partisan review violated state law.
The Senate issued the subpoena on July 26, and county officials said in a letter that they had either already provided all the information they had, they did not have access to that information, or that releasing that information would pose too much of a security risk.
The county has turned over its vote-counting machines, servers and huge amounts of data but balked at handing over routers its uses county-wide and passwords it says it does not control. It has said the routers were never connected to election tabulation equipment but were used by every county department, including the sheriff’s office, and that turning them over would compromise sensitive law enforcement information.
The county has until Sept. 27 to comply or it will lose all the revenue it gets from the state — about 25% of its budget, which was $2.8 billion in 2020.
The latest subpoena demanded that the county turn over the envelopes from all mail-in ballots or images of them, network routers and traffic logs, detailed voter registration records with change histories, and records related to security breaches of election systems.
"On the passwords they've asked for, we told them before we don't have those passwords. We still don't have those passwords. It's kind of odd they asked for them because they gave us back those machines last week," said Maricopa County Supervisor Bill Gates.
The mostly Republican Board of Supervisors met in a closed-door executive session to discuss the new subpoenas. The requests for routers and passwords were already.
Arizona AG: Maricopa County violated law by not complying with Senate subpoena for 2020 election audit
The Arizona attorney general has found the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors in violation of state law for not complying with the state Senate's subpoena for the 2020 election audit.
So they will say the Ninja Audit will not be complete without the information, stretching this out until Sept 27. And then the Ninja team will need a few months to complete it, more delays to follow.
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Audits are all the rage this year.
Paul Ryan says it's 'really clear' Biden won election: 'It was not rigged. It was not stolen'
Former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said it's “really clear” that President Biden won the 2020 election, as fellow Republicans in his home state gear up for an audit of presidential ballots.
“It was not rigged. It was not stolen," Ryan told WISN 12 in a rare interview on Monday. "Donald Trump lost the election. Joe Biden won the election. It's really clear."
Ryan’s comments come as Trump and his GOP allies continue to falsely assert that the 2020 election was stolen due to widespread voter fraud.
Wisconsin Republicans are moving ahead with a forensic audit of the state's 2020 presidential ballots. Biden won the Badger State by roughly 20,700 votes over Trump.
A Wisconsin state Assembly committee voted on Monday to designate former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman as a special council to lead the audit.
Under the agreement, the Republican-controlled legislature can spend up to $680,000 on the probe, far more than the original contract called for.
Ahead of the vote, Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) accused Assembly Speaker Robin Vos (R) of “drinking the Kool-Aid” after meeting with former President Trump.
“Things changed a bit when Robin Vos went down and visited Donald Trump and got that nice picture on the plane,” Evers said. “Apparently they’re all drinking the Kool-Aid. But I think it was really, really unfortunate."
Ryan told WISN that Trump “legitimately lost” the 2020 race, noting that all of his legal challenges of the election results were thrown out in court.
“He exhausted the court challenges," Ryan said. "None of them went his way, so he legitimately lost. Is there mischief, organized shenanigans in elections? Sure. Is there fraud? Yes. Was it organized to the extent that it would have swung the Electoral College and the presidential election? Absolutely not.”
Ryan also offered a broader criticism of Trump's control over the GOP, saying, "I think we'll just keep losing if we wrap ourselves around one person. We have not lost this much this fast in a long, long time."
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Of course he will be called a RINO
Paul Ryan says it's 'really clear' Biden won election: 'It was not rigged. It was not stolen'
Former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said it's “really clear” that President Biden won the 2020 election, as fellow Republicans in his home state gear up for an audit of presidential ballots.
“It was not rigged. It was not stolen," Ryan told WISN 12 in a rare interview on Monday. "Donald Trump lost the election. Joe Biden won the election. It's really clear."
Ryan’s comments come as Trump and his GOP allies continue to falsely assert that the 2020 election was stolen due to widespread voter fraud.
Wisconsin Republicans are moving ahead with a forensic audit of the state's 2020 presidential ballots. Biden won the Badger State by roughly 20,700 votes over Trump.
A Wisconsin state Assembly committee voted on Monday to designate former Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Michael Gableman as a special council to lead the audit.
Under the agreement, the Republican-controlled legislature can spend up to $680,000 on the probe, far more than the original contract called for.
Ahead of the vote, Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers (D) accused Assembly Speaker Robin Vos (R) of “drinking the Kool-Aid” after meeting with former President Trump.
“Things changed a bit when Robin Vos went down and visited Donald Trump and got that nice picture on the plane,” Evers said. “Apparently they’re all drinking the Kool-Aid. But I think it was really, really unfortunate."
Ryan told WISN that Trump “legitimately lost” the 2020 race, noting that all of his legal challenges of the election results were thrown out in court.
“He exhausted the court challenges," Ryan said. "None of them went his way, so he legitimately lost. Is there mischief, organized shenanigans in elections? Sure. Is there fraud? Yes. Was it organized to the extent that it would have swung the Electoral College and the presidential election? Absolutely not.”
Ryan also offered a broader criticism of Trump's control over the GOP, saying, "I think we'll just keep losing if we wrap ourselves around one person. We have not lost this much this fast in a long, long time."
Paul Ryan says it’s ‘really clear’ Biden won election: ‘It was not rigged. It was not stolen’
Former House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said it’s “really clear” that President Biden won the 2020 election, as fellow Republicans in his home state gear up for an audit of presidential …
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Of course he will be called a RINO