Authentic Harlequin seeds?

I made the novice mistake of ordering from Pacific Seed Bank. I paid for 10 Harlequin seeds and ended up with 3 duds and 7 autos! Does anyone here have experience with a seed bank that sells the real deal? I tried looking for clones as well but to no avail.

Best,
Jason

Gotta say. I have purchased from pacific seed bank multiple times and have had great results.

Thanks hotrodharley! Sadly, the Seedsman US-branch is out of all things Harlequin and has been for some time.

Wizzlebiz, They may have been out of stock and gave me leftovers. All I know is that not one of the 7 that germinated was Harlequin.

neatjason said:

Thanks hotrodharley! Sadly, the Seedsman US-branch is out of all things Harlequin and has been for some time.

Wizzlebiz, They may have been out of stock and gave me leftovers. All I know is that not one of the 7 that germinated was Harlequin.

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How are you so sure of that?

neatjason said:

Thanks hotrodharley! Sadly, the Seedsman US-branch is out of all things Harlequin and has been for some time.

Wizzlebiz, They may have been out of stock and gave me leftovers. All I know is that not one of the 7 that germinated was Harlequin.

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Growers Choice has them in stock but I balked using a card when they asked for account and routing numbers.

Wizzlebiz said:

How are you so sure of that?

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The resulting plants varied greatly in height, leaf morphology, lateral branch count, flower density, smell and of course taste. I'd find it hard to believe that its the result of phenotypic variation in Harlequin. Also, they all went into flower at week four.

neatjason said:

The resulting plants varied greatly in height, leaf morphology, lateral branch count, flower density, smell and of course taste. I'd find it hard to believe that its the result of phenotypic variation in Harlequin. Also, they all went into flower at week four.

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What you are experiencing is pheno variety. No 2 plants from seed will be the same.

As for the flowering that could be anything from an auto flower to growers error.

My point is you are claiming something that you cannot possibly guarantee.

That's not to say human error on the company side doesn't exist. They may have sent you an auto version by accident.

I live about an hour away from the seed bank. Here in Northern California its known to be reputable.

hotrodharley said:

Growers Choice has them in stock but I balked using a card when they asked for account and routing numbers.

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Looks like they accept Zelle payment too.

Wizzlebiz said:

My point is you are claiming something that you cannot possibly guarantee.

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You're right. I can't guarantee that it's not a result of phenos, the same as you can't guarantee that it is a result of phenos. I made a claim based on my knowledge of cannabis genetics. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe PSB was wrong. Either way, I'm looking elsewhere for my seeds.

for me harlequin photoperiod shows sex strongly around 4 weeks.
I thought it was an auto first time I grew it.

J. Rocket said:

I thought it was an auto first time I grew it.

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Balls. My claims aren't looking so hot

Is pheno hunting really so hellish?

J. Rocket said:

for me harlequin photoperiod shows sex strongly around 4 weeks.

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Btw, J. Rocket, where did you source your seeds?

neatjason said:

Balls. My claims aren't looking so hot

Is pheno hunting really so hellish?

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Yes but can also be fun and rewarding when you find something exceptional

Wizzlebiz said:

Yes but can also be fun and rewarding when you find something exceptional

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I imagine I would need more than 10 seeds for any worthwhile pheno hunting experiment. I'm down for the challenge. Just trying to come to terms with how expensive it would be...

neatjason said:

I imagine I would need more than 10 seeds for any worthwhile pheno hunting experiment. I'm down for the challenge. Just trying to come to terms with how expensive it would be...

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Just cross your fingers and hope you find something worth while in those 7 that popped.

Always fun lol

neatjason said:

I imagine I would need more than 10 seeds for any worthwhile pheno hunting experiment. I'm down for the challenge. Just trying to come to terms with how expensive it would be...

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It scales proportionally. The best of 10 might be as good as the best of 1000, but you won't know until you grow a thousand. You also have to have your grow dialed in to the perfect conditions, which can vary between phenos. You can grow in batches and keep a clone of the best from each batch, but it takes a long time, and frankly, I would get tired of smoking variations of the same thing after a few years.

Tolerance Break said:

You can grow in batches and keep a clone of the best from each batch

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I attempted to do that, but I must have been too late. The cuttings went into flower with the rest of the plant. I need to do some research into keeping these plants in veg

neatjason said:

I attempted to do that, but I must have been too late. The cuttings went into flower with the rest of the plant. I need to do some research into keeping these plants in veg

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How long have you been growing?

Tolerance Break said:

How long have you been growing?

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In total? About a year. So posting here has been a humbling experience.

As for trying to grow Harlequin from seed, that's been going on for 6-8 months. With the plants seeming to go into flower at about 4 weeks under a 18:6 photoperiod.

neatjason said:

I made the novice mistake of ordering from Pacific Seed Bank. I paid for 10 Harlequin seeds and ended up with 3 duds and 7 autos! Does anyone here have experience with a seed bank that sells the real deal? I tried looking for clones as well but to no avail.

Best,
Jason

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