Autoflower Thread & Resource Guide

justforspam24

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Hey all I had a quick question. I am about to do my first grow and have decided that I am going to grow an AF strain. Nirvana recently came out with some new AF strains and I am going to get one of them. The strains are Blue Mystic, Bubblelicious, Jock Horror and Northern Lights. You can find them here http://www.nirvana-shop.com/en/autoflower-strains.html

I will be doing a stealth closet grow and my main concern is odor. At the moment my cash supply is below low so buying any additional equipment is something that I was hoping to avoid. That equipment included any sort of O2 generator or carbon filter. The Blue Mystic is said to have a neutral odor while growing/flowering, would it be possible to grow that strain without the odor leaving the room the plants will be growing in? I only plan to have 4 plants at MOST and likely will start off with 2.

I am not set on any strain at all so long as its an AF so if you have grown an AF with low stench before please share. Thanks all!
 

businessmen

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I think your always gonna smell a grow in the room theyre in, atleast the few weeks. Then theres drying too. Are they in a cab or closet or tent?
 

justforspam24

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They would just be in the closet in their pots. I don't care about the room itself stinking as it does anyway from me smoking in it, just anywhere beyond the room they are in. From the sounds of it I am going to need to get SOMETHING to take care of the odor as you said not just for flowering but for curing as well. Even once the money isn't tight anymore a carbon filter still won't work as I don't have access to the ducts or anything as I am in a duplex. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything I could pick up for say 30 bucks or less? If I wasn't worried about others in the house smelling everything I would just let the whole place reek.

Thanks in advance...
 

Delux83

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They would just be in the closet in their pots. I don't care about the room itself stinking as it does anyway from me smoking in it, just anywhere beyond the room they are in. From the sounds of it I am going to need to get SOMETHING to take care of the odor as you said not just for flowering but for curing as well. Even once the money isn't tight anymore a carbon filter still won't work as I don't have access to the ducts or anything as I am in a duplex. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything I could pick up for say 30 bucks or less? If I wasn't worried about others in the house smelling everything I would just let the whole place reek.

Thanks in advance...
click here GL bro
https://www.rollitup.org/do-yourself/101248-best-diy-ez-walmart-carbon.html
 

justforspam24

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Thanks Delux I was just over at the odor control forum and was looking at similar DIY filters. I didn't want to but it looks like I will need to just build a grow cab of some kind. Should just be able to find the lumber around my place and at friends. Since I only plan on doing AF for the foreseeable future it won't need to be that tall. Then when I do decide to grow strains that are going to get tall I can use the box to keep a mother or two in.

I am so excited to start my first grow!! Even if I only get 1/2 oz. per plant I will be happy as I am not a real heavy smoker and can't get anything but garbage buds in my area. So anything I grow is going to much better then what I can find. https://www.rollitup.org/members/delux83-185445.html
 

jimmylegs

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I wont make this a true journal, but I would like to share my experiment. I'll take suggestions or input. (it's long, but I think it addresses the questions people may have about this grow...read on if you're interested!)

I ordered 10 beans each from Dope Seeds about a year ago: Auto White Russian, Auto AK-47. I'm currently on day 46 of my 3rd grow.

My garden is in a closet under a stair. It is about 3'6" wide x 4'8" deep and the height angles, but the max light height is about 5'0" off the floor. I have fresh air in, Exhaust with a 6" can fan, and carbon filter. 400 w HPS cool tube.

My first grow was soil, in 2 gal bags. I germ'd 3 each WR/AK. Out of that, I got 2 fems of each. The photos attached from this grow are the ones titled day 65 (i dont know the order they will display) I used FFOF soil, and FF trio of nutes. I consider that grow successful. The plants reached a height of about 23" for the AK's and about 20" for the WR's. I dont own a scale, but my dry yield estimate was about 4 oz bud, 1 oz of popcorn bud and chopped leaf. (estimate was based on my stash jars that I used to put my "store bought" weed in. So I do have an idea.)

The second grow I did not document. Same set-up as the previous grow. only got 3 fems, and these were very stunted. they got a hard start and never took off. The bud was quality, but my dry yield was only about 1/2 - 3/4 oz per plant. I was a little disappointed when comparing with the previous grow.

For my 3rd grow I decided to try a hydro setup. Its going to either be spectacular, or a disappointment.

here's my setup: Ebb/Flow. 10 gal res w/ 2 large airstones, and a huge air pump. flooding 3x day for about 24 minutes each flood. Using Recipe for Success Nutes. I have been maintaining 5.8 pH and check it daily.

I have been changing the res once a week. As the plants drink (about 1 gal/day) I add plain tap. about day 5 of the weekly cycle, I will add one gallon of water with 100% nutes (for that one gallon, not another 100% based on 10 gal res...just to clarify). So I just try to maintain that 10 gal level throughout the week. I dont have a TDS meter yet, so I'm just applying knowledge from a year's worth of reading in here and watching the plants to tell me what they need.

I started 3 WR and 3AK beans again. this time i got 1 WR, and 2 AK fems. The photos from this grow are the ones titled day 45. The bush you see in that shot is really just 2 plants. my 2nd AK is quite stunted, in the back and you cant see it in that main pic. I attached a shot of that runt. Even though that plant is younger (it was last to get it's 2nd set of leaves by about a week), it's ahead of the other 2 in terms of bud development. The runt is starting its trych development, the bushier plants have not started to form crystals yet. I would kill it, just to make room for the 2 bushes, but it looks like it will will be a good hash plant. no need to kill the little guy...it's half oz of little flowers will still bring joy.

The one WR and AK are truly huge from what I've seen. I LST'd the main stalks from each plant. They are currently about 21" above the lava rock, but all of the side branches have reached that height too...the side branches really stretched out between nodes.

But in terms of the calendar they seem to be a little behind. At the similar time with my soil grow, around day 45, the soil plants had already started to swell, growing crystals, and my notes show that I saw the first red hairs at day 48. I dont think I'm anywhere near that with these plants in hydro. So they may go longer than the typical 70-ish days for these autos. my guess is that I will need another 1-2 weeks for about 77-84 days or so.

These plants have gotten so big, i added a 150 w hps to catch the growth on the end. Thats the fixture that shows up in the photo. I started to LST early but was unprepared for the bushyness of these things. Had I known, I would have turned my table 90 degrees and got rid of the other herbs for my other garden.

I would like to know if others are having some success with autos in hydro. (I just discovered this Auto-thread and have not had time to dive in and read all 270 pages - there has to be some hydro talk in here!). I wont be the nag and ask too many questions before i dig in and do my reading!! (no body in this forum does that!)

This could become a disappointing grow if these plants rush themselves to maturity of the buds, leading to fluffy stuff....i.e. the plant is trying to hurry up and die at day 70. If they do that, I wont get much, and quality will be suspect.

But if they can keep going and run their natural life cycle and I get similar buds to what was grown in soil, then this is going to be a monster auto harvest. Any ideas about this?

anyone else do a similar experiment with same strains - soil vs hydro? i'd be interested in hearing about that.

Thanks for reading and for your comments. I'll try to answer questions if I can. I still consider myself a total rookie. I may post some future pics if anyone is interested, but I wont do a journal for this one. If it is a successful grow (quantity plus quality), then I will do another grow starting in september and document that all the way through with some new fem beans.

The images are as follows:

1: soil-garden - day 65
2: soil-bud - day 65
3: Hydro-garden - day 45
4: Hydro-Bud (main cola AK) - day 45
5: Hydro-Runt - day 45
6: Hydro-Runt Bud - day 45
 

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Bigby

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Thanks Delux I was just over at the odor control forum and was looking at similar DIY filters. I didn't want to but it looks like I will need to just build a grow cab of some kind. Should just be able to find the lumber around my place and at friends. Since I only plan on doing AF for the foreseeable future it won't need to be that tall. Then when I do decide to grow strains that are going to get tall I can use the box to keep a mother or two in.

I am so excited to start my first grow!! Even if I only get 1/2 oz. per plant I will be happy as I am not a real heavy smoker and can't get anything but garbage buds in my area. So anything I grow is going to much better then what I can find.
Hello mate. Sounds like we're in similar situations. Im about to start my first grow in the living room of my flat. I simply cant afford a grow tent and extraction/carbon filter untill the end of the year, so im gonna just go for it and see how it goes. Im well aware that there will be a definite aroma, but like you I have regularly smoked in the room (with there being times when the place has stunk to high heaven for over a month at a time). One thing that is confusing me slightly is the reports from new growers stating that their bud doesnt smell like bud when its growing/drying - with them claiming it smells more like hay - because the smell of hay surely wont bait up anywhere. None of my neighbours have any problem with weed anyway, so in that way I guess im lucky. Im actually quite looking forward to my living room smelling of my favourite aroma (or hay lol). One thing I am going to do is have a plug in air freshener by my front door, and have borrowed an air purifier similar to the one in the following link which will be by the exit door from the living room - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nscessity-Air-Purifier-HEPA-Filter-/140402630482?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Home_Garden_Hearing_Cooling_Air&hash=item20b0a61f52. Im gonna be getting started over the weekend, and am happy to report back on how the smell is in reality.

Peace out :peace:

B :joint:
 

sweetsmoker

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What do you think about lowlife blueberry auto? Any good? Looking at that or the 60 day wonder from dna.
havent grown either but have heard gd things, pic of blueberry looked a bit leafy but does sound tasty,,,, have you seen the flower power by barneys? or mi5 by short stuff up to 2oz per plant in 10 weeks..

im sure watever u choose u will be more than happy with, weed plants have that effect on you, its like having an ugly baby,,, u still love it lol
 

Bigby

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Good luck to ya BigBy. Did you plan on doing a journal and what strain are you going to grow?
Im gonna take pics, dont think il do a journal though this time. Im happy to share the pics with you though. The strain ive chosen isnt the most subtle smell wise, in fact its meant to be one of the strongest - Lowlife auto Ak47 feminised. Should be interesting lol. And thanks for kind wishes :blsmoke:
 

businessmen

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I dont think they ever really smell like hay when growing do they? Just after drying if you dry too fast, pick immature, or just need a long cure to bring out the smell.
 

businessmen

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I dont know, Im also really interested in the 3 super autos from flash. But theyre only fem and kinda pricey. So is 60 day wonder I guess tho. But thats supposedly potent, fast as hell and productive. The flash super autos Im wondering if they arent that potent.
 

Outdoorindica

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I dont know, Im also really interested in the 3 super autos from flash. But theyre only fem and kinda pricey. So is 60 day wonder I guess tho. But thats supposedly potent, fast as hell and productive. The flash super autos Im wondering if they arent that potent.
The only way to know is to give them a try. Check out the single seed company, you might be able to get a single from there just to try out. If it really does what they say they do, an early harvest outdoors, even if its only august, is pretty nice. It would be nice to have some big plants that would auto flower around june, then they would finish nice and early, before the farmers pick their crops....damn now you got me thinking about them.
 

justforspam24

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I dont know, Im also really interested in the 3 super autos from flash. But theyre only fem and kinda pricey. So is 60 day wonder I guess tho. But thats supposedly potent, fast as hell and productive. The flash super autos Im wondering if they arent that potent.
That 60 day wonder does sound nice. That seems very appealing to me as I want to have some good bud around while I grow out other strains that are going to take longer.

I think I am just going to write down all the AF strains I want to try and grow and hold a flip coin tournament to see which one wins. Seems like everyday I change my mind on what strain to grow as they all seem to have different advantages. I am leaning though towards the Northern Lights from Nirvana simply because I heard NL is a good strain for a first time grower.

Just so I don't have to make another post too, does anyone have any experience in topping AF strains? What are your thoughts as far as topping goes? I am wondering since the plant has such a short life cycle if it would respond negatively to topping.
 

NickNasty

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dont top auto's since basically by the time you could top most of them will already be in budding and it will usually diminish yields. you can however LST as long as you dont stress them to much.
 

NickNasty

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Also wanted to say I got my Mdanzig's Sour 60 in today and it took less then a week and got 12 seeds instead of 10. I also got 5 free C99's.
 

slowergrower

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hi guys ive been reading on the forum that people are interested in the new nirvana autos that attitude were giving away but no one seems to be growing them....well look no further if you click on my signature you will find my grow journal with pics im growing, blue himalaya diesel, lowlife AK47s nirvana northern lights and bubblelicious all at different stages....ENJOY
 
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