Back to the ‘70s: Did anyone ever actually try grafting cannabis to hops to fool the narcs?

MannyPacs said:

If I remember right csi was running a bunch of them on his Instagram 5 or so years ago. I do not spend much/any time on the socials so I don't recall what the end results were. He seemed excited but I think he shelved the project at some point

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There are some issues with ABC (which is a sativa with a gene for mutant leaves), first it's small, second, it has poor bud structure, third it has a low THC content, and finally the gene for the mutant leaves is a double recessive (much like the autoflower gene for Ruderalis). So the first generation, if bred to a regular Sativa or Indica, will not express the mutant leaf pattern. Once you get the mutant leaf pattern stabilized, then you have to work on breeding plants with higher THC content, larger size, and better bud structure. Which apparently is very difficult to do.

Reekwind said:

Flowering plants are known as Darwin's Abominable Mystery for a reason, try looking up information on plants like Amborella.

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Land plants first appeared about 300 million years ago, and they were gymnosperms (cone reproducing plants). Amborella is simply a descendant of one of the "Sisters" that broke away (evolved) from the gymnosperms to form the Angiosperms (true flowering plants) about 130 million years ago. They still possess some of the reproductive structures of gymnosperms, which is why they were identified as a bridge between the gymnosperms and angiosperms. They are the only species in the family Amborellaceae, and they do not hybridize with any other plants. In perspective, hops and cannabis diverged from a common ancestor about 28 million years ago. I don't see how this helps your argument that hops and cannabis have interbred.

Phytoplankton said:

There are some issues with ABC (which is a sativa with a gene for mutant leaves), first it's small, second, it has poor bud structure, third it has a low THC content, and finally the gene for the mutant leaves is a double recessive (much like the autoflower gene for Ruderalis). So the first generation, if bred to a regular Sativa or Indica, will not express the mutant leaf pattern. Once you get the mutant leaf pattern stabilized, then you have to work on breeding plants with higher THC content, larger size, and better bud structure. Which apparently is very difficult to do.

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Yeah its crap pure from all i gather its a breeding tool no more no less cos other than looking different it doesnt have much going for it except maybe a bit of drought resistance cos its aussie you would imagine also id bet its got south east asian genes of some kind

conor c said:

Yeah its crap pure from all i gather its a breeding tool no more no less cos other than looking different it doesnt have much going for it except maybe a bit of drought resistance cos its aussie you would imagine also id bet its got south east asian genes of some kind

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Good to know I've never grown it and now I never will lol!

big bud man 413 said:

Good to know I've never grown it and now I never will lol!

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The hybrids are better than pure but it takes at least till the f2s with them to get the mutations popping up from all i read it is intresting but where i stays too cold for them and i wouldnt waste indoor space on em personally maybe crossed to something hardy n early might fair better most stuff wouldnt work here out

Reekwind said:

Sure, it.s fully possible, some guy even interbred hops and cannabis a while back, it still looked like weed just all puny and scraggly.

I'd say your best bet is to grow some autos in pots and move them around the garden away from prying eyes.

Or grow full-on guerilla style

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That's 100% not true. You cannot cross breed cannabis and hops. You can graft a cannabis plant into a hops stump. It's pointless, and failure rates are high.

I remember this from the 70s … kind of the same thing.