BAD tea, what to do?

polyarcturus

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If you are growing in very rich organic material, then using a tea wont do much?

But dosnt using a tea in rich medium keep feeding the bacteria and such?

your getting there youll understand soon enough i i where to sit and spoon feed anymore it couild be detrimental to the learning process :)

but no really, all the peices will come together in your head in time, but you got the right ideas, i could tell from your last 2 posts. and yes that is basically what we are saying, but what he is saying(in a nut shell) is overabundance of microbes is bad and it can be.
 

dank smoker420

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your getting there youll understand soon enough i i where to sit and spoon feed anymore it couild be detrimental to the learning process :)

but no really, all the peices will come together in your head in time, but you got the right ideas, i could tell from your last 2 posts. and yes that is basically what we are saying, but what he is saying(in a nut shell) is overabundance of microbes is bad and it can be.
how do you know if you have too many microbes? what are the symptoms?
 

polyarcturus

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all kinds of syptoms basically the plant begins to get no nutrition. foul smell lots of signs, pH swings causing lockouts and random deficiencies. ect. problems without a cause basically. ive seen peole trying to do all organic with some hot as soil and there plant wilts over night. a lot of it has to do with what the microbes are doing to the soil.

ive killed plants fucking around with bad teas and over watering.

key is control, let the soil dry up, use(kills pop.) some hydroponic ferts to kill off microbe pop. to be replenished when you water with tea(aka inoculate) and to use a low nutrient content soil mix. its really he only way to effectively use microbes in container gardening without it creating more problems than solving.
 

elduece

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If you are growing in very rich organic material, then using a tea wont do much?

But dosnt using a tea in rich medium keep feeding the bacteria and such?

Think about how hard it is to get rid of bacteria in the first place especially in a wet, porous, composted environment...

Nowadays, I'll conjure up some bacterial tea( only compost/ewc/aquashield) at first sign of fungus gnats as my first line of defense response or when a vegetative plant has motivation issues with rooting into reused soil -to reinvigorate microbial activity. That's it!
 

elduece

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all kinds of syptoms basically the plant begins to get no nutrition. foul smell lots of signs, pH swings causing lockouts and random deficiencies. ect. problems without a cause basically. ive seen peole trying to do all organic with some hot as soil and there plant wilts over night. a lot of it has to do with what the microbes are doing to the soil.

ive killed plants fucking around with bad teas and over watering.

key is control, let the soil dry up, use(kills pop.) some hydroponic ferts to kill off microbe pop. to be replenished when you water with tea(aka inoculate) and to use a low nutrient content soil mix. its really he only way to effectively use microbes in container gardening without it creating more problems than solving.
AS a control you should leave one plant well watered to see for yourself which gets the best results: letting the soil dry before watering or keeping it well watered.

I'd wager the well watered plants will look so much better and with more buds. I've seen that keeping it well watered is much less stressful on the plant especially a flowering one than letting it dry before hydrating. Also have you try to rehydrate peat or had PH issues, lockouts etc after rehydrating peat based soil no matter how much lime was added? Additionally, when well watered, more solubles are available to the plant. Ever think on the critical 5/6th week ( of a 8 week plant ) into flowering and the soil is only half dry at a time when its pushing the flowering envelope?
 

polyarcturus

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AS a control you should leave one plant well watered to see for yourself which gets the best results: letting the soil dry before watering or keeping it well watered.

I'd wager the well watered plants will look so much better and with more buds. I've seen that keeping it well watered is much less stressful on the plant especially a flowering one than letting it dry before hydrating. Also have you try to rehydrate peat or had PH issues, lockouts etc after rehydrating peat based soil no matter how much lime was added? Additionally, when well watered, more solubles are available to the plant. Ever think on the critical 5/6th week ( of a 8 week plant ) into flowering and the soil is only half dry at a time when its pushing the flowering envelope?


good call on what led me too this belief but ahh no, my soil issues have been sorted out id did have some problems of recent, but nothing to worry me got a big ol 50lb bag of dol lime sitting next to me :)

and the dry plants do better, keep the moisture under the surface. i been at this for a while i have not bought any new medium(maybe more the freshen up or alter the mix little) in 3 years goin on 4...
but my mix is soiless lots of coco, peat, and inert material and the way i grow i have to water daily so drying out the soil occasionally helps me a ton.
 

Growop101

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so letting the soil dry up or drenching the soil kills off pop.


That may not nessecarily be a bad thing tho, maybe the few that are left are good and help when the plant is stressed or something?
 

polyarcturus

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letting the soil dry up kills the pop. moisture encourage growth and not always the good kind,

its good to just have cycles you dont need to use the method only when plant is stressed but rather just incorporate it into the way you feed/water.
 

Growop101

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Ok so.....

-When feeding teas, you wana let the soil dry so the population dies off, to ensure you dont over feed?

I am def guna start doing this. i kinda jus feed tea when ever its ready.
 
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