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Mitchician

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Hmm not sure how to do links on cellphones either because I've only used my pc for this site so far, but on here I just copy and paste the link address and it magically turns into the cool picture thingy.

Your light's doing okay for now but your plants will appreciate it if you can get a more powerful one sooner rather than later. If you end up going with one of the cheaper lights you must always remember to look at the actual watts used, not the number they state in the name of the light, because most companies these days blatantly mislabel their lights as far more powerful than they really are.
Watts of power used and suitability of spectrum is directly proportional to the amount you will harvest.
The most efficient lights these days basically all use mainly white LED's with supplemental reds like the HLG or the Mars lights I showed you.

It's probably a bit far out of your interest at the moment but in the future when you or your husband want to get real geeky on it you should subscribe to the Apogee Instruments Inc. youtube channel. Apogee make some of the most trusted light measurement devices in the industry. They have an LED guru who has uploaded many videos that give very useful knowledge. One was uploaded not long ago actually, and I'm about to go watch it...
 
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Mitchician said:
Hmm not sure how to do links on cellphones either because I've only used my pc for this site so far, but on here I just copy and paste the link address and it magically turns into the cool picture thingy.

Your light's doing okay for now but your plants will appreciate it if you can get a more powerful one sooner rather than later. If you end up going with one of the cheaper lights you must always remember to look at the actual watts used, not the number they state in the name of the light, because most companies these days blatantly mislabel their lights as far more powerful than they really are.
Watts of power used and suitability of spectrum is directly proportional to the amount you will harvest.
The most efficient lights these days basically all use mainly white LED's with supplemental reds like the HLG or the Mars lights I showed you.

It's probably a bit far out of your interest at the moment but in the future when you or your husband want to get real geeky on it you should subscribe to the Apogee Instruments Inc. youtube channel. Apogee make some of the most trusted light measurement devices in the industry. They have an LED guru who has uploaded many videos that give very useful knowledge. One was uploaded not long ago actually, and I'm about to go watch it...
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Clearly you are way above my skill level at the moment. I knew they needed more light once I brought them in and I realized that they needed more than the quick fix I got them. That is why i tried doing research and a lot of people suggested the viparspectra. I appreciate the additional input for sure. I'm just floating in the breeze and lucky my plant looks healthy.
 
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Seed of Memory said:
Clearly you are way above my skill level at the moment. I knew they needed more light once I brought them in and I realized that they needed more than the quick fix I got them. That is why i tried doing research and a lot of people suggested the viparspectra. I appreciate the additional input for sure. I'm just floating in the breeze and lucky my plant looks healthy.
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I'm not 'way above' your skill level lol, you have great instinct so don't let me try to rush your learning, a personal grow shouldn't become too much like hard work and should always be enjoyable. I only suggested those lights because just like you two, I'm on a tight budget and only have a small personal grow, so I appreciate the value of being able to make each dollar go as far as possible, and saving on lighting early on is such an investment.
 
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My girls (crossing my fingers) are doing really well so far. The rest of my equipment is on order so I should be in a legit setup by Monday. Gonna use my small LED for new seedlings when my feminised seeds get here before the transfer to a more powerful light in the tent.
 
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Mitchician said:
I'm not 'way above' your skill level lol, you have great instinct so don't let me try to rush your learning, a personal grow shouldn't become too much like hard work and should always be enjoyable. I only suggested those lights because just like you two, I'm on a tight budget and only have a small personal grow, so I appreciate the value of being able to make each dollar go as far as possible, and saving on lighting early on is such an investment.
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You have been very helpful so far. Would you be willing to give me your opinion on fix farm fertilizer? I've read it is supposed to be good.
 
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Sorry I have no experience with the fox farm range, they seem to be one of the most popular brands though and everyone uses their soil mixes so they must be good.
 
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Seed of Memory said:
You have been very helpful so far. Would you be willing to give me your opinion on fix farm fertilizer? I've read it is supposed to be good.
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Check out Mega Crop, it’s really good and at one time they were giving free samples (no purchase necessary), I’ve always used Advanced Nutrients but have recently started using MC, so far its great.
And it would be best if you don’t spray your plants anymore, just water them as needed.
 
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The plants are definitely starting to flourish now. Our largest one has over tripled in size in a matter of a couple of weeks. I mist them at least twice a day with distilled water. They seem to soak it up. I have them on a 24 hour light cycle. Once my timer arrives I will go to 18/6 but for now I want to be sure the lighting is consistent.
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Nice! Welcome to the hobby. Don't mist them at all. Giving them water like that will stunt root growth. Same with the dome.
 
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Opie1971 said:
Check out Mega Crop, it’s really good and at one time they were giving free samples (no purchase necessary), I’ve always used Advanced Nutrients but have recently started using MC, so far its great.
And it would be best if you don’t spray your plants anymore, just water them as needed.
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Isn't misting supposed to help with humidity? The area I have them in has no humidity at all. I have a tent on the way to help but I was concerned about humidity. I also do not have a meter yet. Also on the way. And thank you.
 
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R Burns said:
Nice! Welcome to the hobby. Don't mist them at all. Giving them water like that will stunt root growth. Same with the dome.
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Thank you. Everyone has been really helpful. And reading through the threads has been very educational as well. I'm not foliar feeding, just misting to help with low humidity. I have a tent and all of the stuff I should have had before I started on the way so I don't have a meter but that room is super dry. It is an under the stairs room. Anything else I could do to help with the low humidity?
 
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Thank you. Everyone has been really helpful. And reading through the threads has been very educational as well. I'm not foliar feeding, just misting to help with low humidity. I have a tent and all of the stuff I should have had before I started on the way so I don't have a meter but that room is super dry. It is an under the stairs room. Anything else I could do to help with the low humidity?
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Humidifier is the most obvious. But a good cheat is wet towels in the area.
 
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R Burns said:
Humidifier is the most obvious. But a good cheat is wet towels in the area.
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Yeah, I'm barely scraping by just getting the tent and fertilizers, lights, light timer, pH meter, and the rest. I'm one of those people that didn't realize how much needed to go into it and that I had actually started my grow outside when most people are almost done flowering. I'm typically an avid researcher but I was so excited when we actually found seeds that I didn't think to take a second and do the proper research. We never find seeds in our smoke. These plants were germinated on 9/5 if that gives you an idea how much I have stunted their growth by my own ignorance. Now I'm speed researching to try to reduce any more mistakes and since I found this site I'm asking questions before I do something.
 
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You're doing fine and people don't mind helping when you show initiative and actively teach yourself while asking questions.
An easy way to add extra humidity for your plants would be to sit them in a tray of water with a layer of stones or something to hold the pots up out of the water., and if you wanted to get real crazy you could make a wire frame to hang a tea towel or something so the ends are sitting in your tray of water then sit a little desk fan next to it blowing through the wet towel towards your plants but that's really only something crazies like me would do lol so embarrass yourself at your own risk...
If you want to help the plants bush out more you can start training them either by topping, 'supercropping' (kinking the stem/branches) or LST by bending the main stem over and tying it to the side of the pot. When you move the leading growth tips physically lower than the ones you want to catch up, the plant redistributes priority of auxins to these lower sites and you end up with a flatter canopy which is always the goal when looking for efficiency from a top-mounted light. You may want a traditional xmas tree shape plant and that's fine too I'm just giving you an option if you want the side branches to grow more.
 
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Mitchician said:
You're doing fine and people don't mind helping when you show initiative and actively teach yourself while asking questions.
An easy way to add extra humidity for your plants would be to sit them in a tray of water with a layer of stones or something to hold the pots up out of the water., and if you wanted to get real crazy you could make a wire frame to hang a tea towel or something so the ends are sitting in your tray of water then sit a little desk fan next to it blowing through the wet towel towards your plants but that's really only something crazies like me would do lol so embarrass yourself at your own risk...
If you want to help the plants bush out more you can start training them either by topping, 'supercropping' (kinking the stem/branches) or LST by bending the main stem over and tying it to the side of the pot. When you move the leading growth tips physically lower than the ones you want to catch up, the plant redistributes priority of auxins to these lower sites and you end up with a flatter canopy which is always the goal when looking for efficiency from a top-mounted light. You may want a traditional xmas tree shape plant and that's fine too I'm just giving you an option if you want the side branches to grow more.
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I thought about training but I'm concerned I'm going to snap it and ruin it. I would like them to get bushier. I'll look into doing something for the humidity.
 
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So technically i am at 75 days on this grow but you wouldn't know it by looking at my plants. However, for all the mistakes i feel I'm doing much better now and I think my plants are healthy. I am getting a bit concerned though. They are growing well but the tops of each plant seems to be getting yellow in the center leaves. You can definitely see it under the LED lights but it only looks light green in other light. Hopefully my nutes coming in will get them back healthy green.20191122_231216.jpg
 

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@Opie1971Do you think these look okay? Is that lightness in the center of the leaves on the top half of the plants normal? It is going on with both of them.
 
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They are a bit stressed, looks like the light could be too close. How far above them do you have it? Also how much medium are they in again?
They really want to be trained sideways so they distribute auxins better and expose all parts of the plant to the same amount of light.
 
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They are a bit stressed, looks like the light could be too close. How far above them do you have it? Also how much medium are they in again?
They really want to be trained sideways so they distribute auxins better and expose all parts of the plant to the same amount of light.
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I thought something looked wrong. We have actually been moving the light up inches at a time each day and the plants are growing right in to it. Right now it is 6 inches above. I'm running out of room until my tent is here tomorrow. So the first plant in the pics is in a 3 gallon container with about 2 gallons of soil. The second plant that has always been deformed is in a 1.5 gallon pot with about 1 gallon of soil. No time release nutrients are in the soil either.
 
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