Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

Integra21

Integra21

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And lets not forget the guard dogs. Pure bred Dobermans, 1 male 1 female but they're more of lap dogs than guard dogs.

 
Integra21

Integra21

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GringoLoco said:
Kudos! You sir have got a very green thumb; very nice setup, your attention to detail is very apparent and it's not surprising to see your results.
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Thanks a lot. I do put a lot of effort in, and so far its paying off. I appreciate the input.
 
Integra21

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ToWeRdog said:
Beautifull setup! do you like the 5 gallon buckets or the totes better?
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the buckets seem to work better, but are too tall for my scrog. It just seems like the roots grow better if they have more room to go down. But as they are set up now, the buckets work great for my mothers, and the tubs work great for my flower and veg. Nicest part about having the tubs is all the plants sharig which means less things to check, which means less time checking ph, and filling buckets.
 
Ray Fox

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What just like, a perfect grow room. Just perfect. :mrgreen: Wish everyone had one. :weed:But it probably gets to be a bitch stooping down to get in every time.

Oh and what just like, wonderful dogs. And by wonderful we mean wonderfully intimidating. :shock:
 
Integra21

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Yeah, it gets to be a pain, but well worth it. And at least all of the work I do is sitting down. The dogs scare people but they're not scary.and thanks for all of the compliments guys.
 
Integra21

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Thanks, and I hope you enjoy the show. This one should be wrapping up shortly, and I will start a new one with the Blue Kush.
 
Integra21

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Ok. I harvested at 11 weeks flower. My yield was definitely affected from the water problems I had a month back. But I'm still thinking it's a Pretty good weight. Took my 8 hours to trim 5 plants, I know thats a long time, but I was working by myself and I am very detail oriented when trimming. Loose a lot of good leaf weight, but its mostly for personal, so it doesnt mater. Here are some pics. Ended up with 14 fully loaded hangers of some really good looking dank. When you grind it, it's more white than green. The Outside Piss plant is well into flowering now. The buds are growing and trichomes are just starting up. It's now just under 6ft. tall. The Mazar, Mango, and Blue Mystic seedling are growing very well. The Blue Kush clones are fully rooted and also growing well. 1 has really taken off more than the others, but their average heights are 6-8in. Not a lot of info this update, real busy, so I'll just let the pictures do the talking.











 
Integra21

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majikninja said:
wow that looks really good.. id say thats a great harvest, are you going for perpetual status? lol
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yeah, I have 7 Blue Kush Clones getting switched to flowering today from the pics above. Reworked my flowering tub a little as well for this next set to come out even better.
 
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thats awesome man.. did that WW have a little purple tint to it.. 7 plants in a glademaid tub? got any pics of the new tub?
 
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cruzer101

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Hi Integra,

Thanks for making the suggestion I visit your grow. Yes I agree our grows are similar.
Not only are we both using air/water medium but we have the same hygrometer, same sterlite tub for clones, we both use r/o water
and I have had three previous grows of White widow that I call WW1 WW2 and WW3
Now we both have a 20 gal CO2 tank and regulator. I have the complete set of GH nutes too.

One thing I noticed though, Your plants don't seem to stretch as much as mine.
Maybe it was the fact my Ph keeps dropping below 5.0 and sometimes I don't catch it for a few hours.
I am running eight plants with a seven gallon res so I make adjustments a couple times a day.

Great use of space man. I used every inch of my last cabinet grow, this one I am still filling out.

I have a question for you about your use of CO2.
In my case although the light is air cooled my grow area still needs to be exhausted a couple times every hour when lights are on.
This removes the CO2. How have you implemented CO2 into your grow?


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Integra21

Integra21

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majikninja said:
thats awesome man.. did that WW have a little purple tint to it.. 7 plants in a glademaid tub? got any pics of the new tub?
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It is still the same tub, just changed the lid to hold only 3" net pots since the 5.5" were a waste of space. Also changed the airstone configuration and added a drain so I can pump out the tub instead of changing it(huge pain). But I'll put some pics up in a bit. I also painted the lid black and then white again, since i had a little alge problem in the begenning of the first set of Widow.
 
Integra21

Integra21

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cruzer101 said:
Hi Integra,

Thanks for making the suggestion I visit your grow. Yes I agree our grows are similar.
Not only are we both using air/water medium but we have the same hygrometer, same sterlite tub for clones, we both use r/o water
and I have had three previous grows of White widow that I call WW1 WW2 and WW3
Now we both have a 20 gal CO2 tank and regulator. I have the complete set of GH nutes too.

One thing I noticed though, Your plants don't seem to stretch as much as mine.
Maybe it was the fact my Ph keeps dropping below 5.0 and sometimes I don't catch it for a few hours.
I am running eight plants with a seven gallon res so I make adjustments a couple times a day.

Great use of space man. I used every inch of my last cabinet grow, this one I am still filling out.

I have a question for you about your use of CO2.
In my case although the light is air cooled my grow area still needs to be exhausted a couple times every hour when lights are on.
This removes the CO2. How have you implemented CO2 into your grow?


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This is my first grow, the WW1,2, and 3 are the 3 different phenotypes of White Widow I have.
If you have a constantly falling ph you might have a bacterial problem. To drop from 5.8 to 5.6 in a few hours can be normal, but to go from 6.0 to 5.0 in a few hours, something else is going on. Do you change or clean your tubs on a regular basis? If every thing is cleaned once a week or every other week you may notice a much more stabil ph.
As far as the co2 goes, i have mine at 9 pis on a timer for 15min on 45 min 0ff. Thats a higher cycle time than most people, but it is to make up for the constant fresh air being pumped into the room. a more typical cycle is 10min on and 1.5 hours off.
thanks for stopping by, and I didnt even realze our grows were That similar when I said it.
 
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cruzer101

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Good info, The current placement of my res makes it difficult to drain completely, the last change I left about a liter of old solution in there. Thats probably it.

For CO2, I don't have an actual meter that tells me how much is in there. When I got the regulator I got a bubble counter with it. I have yet to figure out how many bubbles are in a cubic foot of gas. Although I have a solenoid for it I just keep it constantly on during daytime hours. I have seen online calculators. How did you come up with that cycle?
 
Integra21

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majikninja said:
i was hoping you would add a drain, now i really want to see how you did that..
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Here's the pics. I bought a plastic ball valve and drilled a 7/8" hole in the lower right side of the tub. Insert the gromet into the whole, and push the tip with the shorter nub on the wtiswt handle into the hole. The put about 3" of 1/2" clear tubing onto the end inside of the tub.
I have six 5" air discs($5.49petsmart) and two 12" triangle shaped stones. has a lot of air movement, there's an actual current in the tub like a river. I just put my Blue Kush clones in and 1 Piss clone for a total of 8 plants.





 
xXkillerklownXx

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Integra21 said:
I have personally used it and had nothing but problems compared to good soil. First off, it is not a clean source, miracle grow soil is usually riddled with incects and other forign contaminates that good soils dont usually have(if stored poperly). Believe me when I say you dont want this shit in your grow room, easiest way there is to get a spider mite infestation. Second it is very dense soil that is not good in general for marijuana it makes for poor drainage and makes your plants more prone to root rot. The density also makes it harder for roots to grow. Third is the consistency proble. Most people who have used it would agree, that each pot will end up with different water absorbtion charactoristics from pot to pot even if all of the soil is from the same bag example of 3 plants, one dries out in 2 days, the other in 4 and the last taking 8 days to dry enough to water again, which leads back to the root rot problem. I am not saying you cant grow good bud in the stuff, just that is more difficult and problem prone. Lets face it, you can grow in miracle grow with no ventillation under incandecent bulbs, but that doesnt mean that's the way you should grow. You will have much better results with a better soil, and the cost difference is almost not noticable. I could never figure out why people get so defensive about miracle grow wheh it costs $7 a bad, and good soil cost $10. Is that $3 really worth all of the potential problems?
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would it be alot better if i get promix or is that problem prone too?
 
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