Barney's F - Vanilla Kush / TGA Subcool - Ace of Spades = Waterfarm - 600w

Okie dokie - here's another picture update - things are growing great! I have this VK plant held down and tied back to the max and she's really spreading out already! You can see in these pics how the lower sites are really starting to come up nicely. I bent her over at a 90 degree angle pretty much, so I'm hoping she'll really push out a nice wide, even canopy. The AoS is starting to really go now too - another 4 days or so and she'll be starting LST too - there's a few side branches starting to develop, and she's looking a bit pale today so I'll start her up on some nutes this weekend after her flush, and then it won't be long before she gets anchored and tied!

Enjoy the pics!!!

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Vanilla Kush:








Ace of Spades:

Looking fantastic, Dayzt. Can't believe how quickly that VK is growing, but maybe it's just because the AoS was a little slow to start. Either way, cheers.

Subbed! Can't wait to watch these finish. Best of luck mate!

very cool..... very very interesting Dayzt. The new screens your making sound awesome. I might try that myself after i see yours. What an innovative and interesting idea. Why would you use clamps to hold it to the sides of the tent instead of hanging the screen with string from the top? and why do you and kris use twine or string for your screens instead of wire?
And i really like your LST hookup. looking beauituful. awesome awesome documentation. thanks for the time
amber

kriznarf said:

Looking fantastic, Dayzt. Can't believe how quickly that VK is growing, but maybe it's just because the AoS was a little slow to start. Either way, cheers.

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Thanks kriz - things wouldn't be the same without you keeping an eye on things with me! One thing I've learned with the waterfarms so far is that they grow so strong and fast, you can really 'beat the hell' out of the plant and they will bounce back even stronger. I can't imagine how much stress the plant feels being tied down this early in the game, but it since it's growing this fast it really doesn't appear to mind! I'll be installing my replacement ballast this weekend and the second light will be coming on so the AoS can move to it's own side of the tent!

nattybongo said:

Subbed! Can't wait to watch these finish. Best of luck mate!

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Thank you! I hope my long-winded PM messages helped you - please keep the questions coming, I'm here to help! Welcome aboard - have some +rep!

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

very cool..... very very interesting Dayzt. The new screens your making sound awesome. I might try that myself after i see yours. What an innovative and interesting idea. Why would you use clamps to hold it to the sides of the tent instead of hanging the screen with string from the top? and why do you and kris use twine or string for your screens instead of wire?
And i really like your LST hookup. looking beauituful. awesome awesome documentation. thanks for the time
amber

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With the string (or twine - not sure what I'm going to get yet), it's easier to control the size of the screen holes, but wire works just as well - I suppose you could argue that a 'wire' screen or any metallic screen could get hotter than desired and could potentially harm your plant that will eventually be in constant contact with it - but I'm sure that's never an issue. One advantage of using string (need to try and stay away from any string that is 'fuzzy' so you don't get small hairy shot in your sticky buds later..lol) is that you can cut it away easier during harvest, and when you set it up again later you can then just weave more string through the eyelets...string is super-cheap.

The idea to use the spare clamps (2 on each corner, one to rest the screen corners on and the other to hold the screen down) came from kriznarf - simply genius if you ask me - using this method, it gives you complete control over moving the screen up and down without actually 'tieing' it anywhere or suspending it from the top = less wires everywhere and more room below the screen without it having any actual 'legs'.

Curious...where did you get your avatar pic? Is that from some older B movie with bad-ass space chicks?

Looking very good and bushy already.

Looking great as always Dayzt. How far along is that VK? Thing is massive already.

hey Dayzt..thanks for the info. My avitar is the one and only DIVINE...she was a fav actress (hehehe trans) of John Waters. The picture is a still from the classic "Pink Flamingo's" movie...cult B classic. absoluetly hysterical. Dark sick humor, if you like it that way this is a MUST to see. have a wonderful weekend.
Im picking up my Hydrofarm pot this weekend! yeah!!!

lordjin said:

Looking very good and bushy already.

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Thanks - yeah, if the VK wasn't tied down, it would be pushing about 8-9 inches right now I think. My veg time will be longer as a result of the training, but in my opnion, a few extra weeks in veg is worth it to realize an extra 3-4 oz or more... and this time with the 600w lights, we have some 'high' expectations!

mr2shim said:

Looking great as always Dayzt. How far along is that VK? Thing is massive already.

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That's a good question - I've been starting my seeds straight in the hydroton once they crack, but I don't consider it to be 'veg' until I have my lights on the 'veg' cycle of 18/6...that being said, I'll be at the 2 week mark of veg tomorrow, having set my 18/6 on Sept 24th. I've really been trying to avoid calculating the days though - I find it's easier not to worry about 'how long' they take. There's really no time-limit for any of the light cycles and I'm in no hurry. Sometimes 'watching the clock' too closely like that will cause me to create 'expectations', and really - we're happy with whatever we get!

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

hey Dayzt..thanks for the info. My avitar is the one and only DIVINE...she was a fav actress (hehehe trans) of John Waters. The picture is a still from the classic "Pink Flamingo's" movie...cult B classic. absoluetly hysterical. Dark sick humor, if you like it that way this is a MUST to see. have a wonderful weekend.
Im picking up my Hydrofarm pot this weekend! yeah!!!

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Lol...awesome, I'll have to check out some of those classics - I think i've run across a few movies of that type on 'late-night tv' before - poor filming, but humorous and entertaining for sure!

Great news on your waterfarm - can't wait! Remember I'm here to help with anything I can - have a good one!

Got me second light up and running this evening, and moved the AoS under it's own new light! Both are looking very happy!!

Wow looks amazing Dayzt and thank u for the reply... Here are a few pics of what i have going on this is the trainwreck and this is the himalayan gold..

cocakola said:

Wow looks amazing Dayzt and thank u for the reply... Here are a few pics of what i have going on View attachment 1826813this is the trainwreck View attachment 1826814and this is the himalayan gold..

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Lookin nice and healthy cocakola! +rep!

Thanks im trying , I've made it this far bcuz of you and ppl like you sharing your knowledge and experiences(pics too we love pics). Lets hope I can continue to apply what I've learned thru reading , questions and Pitures I love Pictures lol. I know I will come onto problems(hopefully nothing major) and im not affraid to ask for help , knowing you guys have been in my shoes . I will continue to read and learn and post my progress.

Thanks all everytime for the info , feedback , advice etc its greatly appreciated!

Okay - update time!

This VK continues to impress and is growing great! There's 7-8 nice main tops so far as I continue to open her up and spread everything out. I few more weeks and I'll need to seriously start getting the screen together for this one!






The AoS has been started on a low ppm of nute solution and seems to appreciate it. The bottom growth on it has been picking up and I've been able to anchor and tie it down now. We'll see how it likes the LST - hopefully she'll push back and things will start to speed up. The roots look amazing and seem to really like the extra airstone. I expect this plant will be quite a lot smaller than the VK, but we'll see how things develop... enjoy the pics! Sorry a few of them are out of focus - need to change up some camera settings for next time!






..here's a view from a few steps back. I can't quite get the whole tent in one shot, but you can see here vaguely how things are setup.

Just looked up AOS on a seed bank. Wow that stuff sounds amazingly nice! Might get one of them on the go in the future.

New pics look awesome! Great job on that early LST. Quick thought: Why not compact the ducting between the two lights to decrease resistance?

Pulling up a chair as well. Nice to see that I haven't missed a lot

nattybongo said:

Just looked up AOS on a seed bank. Wow that stuff sounds amazingly nice! Might get one of them on the go in the future.

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Yeah we'll see how she turns out - it's a 'regular' seed as opposed to the fem seeds I've been running almost exclusively (aside from the Rocklock that was male a few grows back), but with genetics like that, curiosity cause me to cave...here's to hopin'!

kriznarf said:

New pics look awesome! Great job on that early LST. Quick thought: Why not compact the ducting between the two lights to decrease resistance?

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One word - laziness..lol. I've compacted it a few times and never did secure it properly so it would stay that way. There's such strong airflow going through there, that it's surprisingly 'taught' - it will take some strong clips/clamps to get it to hold compact - thanks for the reminder, I'll try to get that done tonight! =) It will take a few feet out of the airflow 'distance equation', so it's worth doing it - just keep forgetting about it - the temps in the tent are good though, and winters almost here - then heat will be much less on a factor.

Bluezdude said:

Pulling up a chair as well. Nice to see that I haven't missed a lot

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Welcome!! The VK is stealing the 'spotlight' so far (I'm not really surprised), but there's much more to come! Hopefully it won't be as long and 'drawn-out' as the TD grow - got some strains with more indica in them this time!

Looking great Dayzt and I really appreciate your documentation style. Super easy for someone who is absorbing knowledge in prep for gettting growing!

Def following along for the ride.

hell yea man...SUBSCRIBED!!!! i second the opinion to shorten the ducting between your fixtures, you will have MUCH better airflow..oh yea....check out my first cfl grow...link is in my sig