Be careful what advice you take.

ya, ya, iwas jus TFF (troling for fun) i probly have the same pic in my collection.

most peoples problem with growing is over thinking it. Take some time figure out how your nutes work, proper watering. If people would just stop worrying bout it, take a few chances. Kill a cpl plants if necessary. Learn, damn it. All the information in the world will do these people no good if they dont put it to use. geesh its jus a plant.

anybody that has to ask these simple basic questions, should only be doing a single plant or 4, under small conditions, they are not large operations. they have very little to lose. If they are rookies, and doing anything larger than that, well, u know what they say, "u cant fix stupid" idk, maybe im jus fried...

Mr. Krinkle said:

the black arrows? those are leaves

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Nope, surface to air missiles. It's getting ready for 12/21/12

thank God im here to clarify these things, huh

I called this plant as a possible male on the 28th of last month and it was 2 weeks into flower, over a week later and still no pistols. The pic I saw was 3 ft tall and not one alternating node. I would like to see a pic of these preflowers.

OMG!!!!! A plant does not have to have alternating nodes to flower! Does anyone on this site actually grow? Like, in REAL-LIFE?

Trousers said:

The Lord helps those that help themselves.

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Which marks Him as bloody useless in my book. cn

cues said:

OMG!!!!! A plant does not have to have alternating nodes to flower! Does anyone on this site actually grow? Like, in REAL-LIFE?

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when it's 3 ft tall and huge stretch between nodes and there not alternating and 3 weeks in no pistols. Um o.k boss

Metasynth said:

Where do you see 4 branches? I see 2 stems from the fan leaves, and the start of 2 branches at the node.

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I see 2 flowers, 2 leaves, same as always.

Haha I cant belive this argument is still going on, that shit was
posted at 8 in the morning

cues said:

OK, maybe I lost it a bit, but I don't like bad advice. It's not as if it was a 'little' bad. It was blatantly terribly bad, possibly losing ounces for readers on here. Sorry for losing the plot a little.

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Ummm...the other guy was right. New growth and he never brought the number 4 up. That was you.

krunkcity80 said:

Can anybody tell me it these are buds growing ??

because i have hairs shooting every where now, but not sure where the buds grow from been flowering for 2 1/2 weeks now..

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cues said:

Yes they are. Those things in the 'armpits' are the buds.

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dimebong said:

Wait what? I only see new branches. There ain't even any preflowers in that picture

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Bigby said:

I thought the same. The things being suggested as being buds look like the start of new branches to me.

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cues said:

Sometimes it amazes me how many idiots are on here trying to give advice.
If people seriously think that they are the the start of new branches then they have been growing some wacky strains.
Cannabis grows either opposite (2) stems (when younger) or alternate (1) when older, NEVER 4 stems from a node.
Newbies should read and ask advice without comments, let alone trying to give bad info, as the OP did (respect, we were all there at some point and all need to start somewhere)
For the dickwad who is trying to say it's new branches, don't try and give advice when you blatently have not even the faintest fucking idea.
Sorry, good thread but some total dickheads replying to it.

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Cues, why did you say this, then? Because that picture is the picture in question, correct? I don't think dimebong and Bigby were saying it was growing 4 stems, they were saying it's growing normally, but what you identified as buds are actually new stems.

Metasynth said:

Cues, why did you say this, then? Because that picture is the picture in question, correct? I don't think dimebong and Bigby were saying it was growing 4 stems, they were saying it's growing normally, but what you identified as buds are actually new stems.

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wait, he can't be wrong could he, he grows in REAL LIFE, lmfao

Metasynth said:

This is the picture in question...The question that the thread was started over was "Are these the start of buds?"

Cues said "Yes, those things in the 'armpits' are the bud."

Another member said "I just see the start of new branches, i don't even see any preflowers"... <---------------This is the comment Cues is flaming about...

Make up your own minds, people...lol

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Thank You for pointing this one out , Armpits .. I fell off my chair reading this and then find this posted by the same Muppet later in the day .. OMG this place just gets better by the day , Entertainment wise that is ...........

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I was replying to the actual thread but seeing as how you created an entire thread about my post i might as well post here.

I stand by my comment, and so does my plant. They are not buds. This is how cannabis grows. According to you,
you couldn't take a clone from a clone because "Cannabis simply does NOT produce 4 stems from a single node" (whatever that means)But people do take clones from clones which demonstrates that your information is incorrect like you have been told.

I couldn't get a decent shot of the new branches (growing on a branch, which is growing from a branch that is growing from the main stem),
but i can tell you, the small growth in front of my finger is serrated and would form into a new branch if i gave it enough time.

dimebong said:

I was replying to the actual thread but seeing as how you created an entire thread about my post i might as well post here.

I stand by my comment, and so does my plant. They are not buds. This is how cannabis grows. According to you,
you couldn't take a clone from a clone because "Cannabis simply does NOT produce 4 stems from a single node" (whatever that means)But people do take clones from clones which demonstrates that your information is incorrect like you have been told.

I couldn't get a decent shot of the new branches (growing on a branch, which is growing from a branch that is growing from the main stem),
but i can tell you, the small growth in front of my finger is serrated and would form into a new branch if i gave it enough time.


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Technically those could be called buds (incipient branches), but not in the manner familiar to growers (meaning flower sites). cn

cannabineer said:

Technically those could be called buds (incipient branches), but not in the manner familiar to growers (meaning flower sites). cn

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It's true that small branches will become part of what we smoke but they aren't flowers, contrary to his argument. They're still branches.

His point was that the growth we're looking at are flowers themselves and told me i was an idiot for thinking a branch could possibly grow from there.

He said "Cannabis simply does NOT produce 4 stems from a single node" when infact it can produce an infinite about of stems
with cloning.

I get that he doesn't see these small branches develop into full branches, only into buds but that doesn't mean they aren't branches.

A better reply to "are these the start of buds" would be to point out clusters of calyxes or preflowers instead
of pointing out something that occurs on both male and female plants.

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random youtube day ,potherfruckers

Metasynth said:

This is the picture in question...The question that the thread was started over was "Are these the start of buds?"

Cues said "Yes, those things in the 'armpits' are the bud."

Another member said "I just see the start of new branches, i don't even see any preflowers"... <---------------This is the comment Cues is flaming about...

Make up your own minds, people...lol

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Lmao there are no flowers there man....

I started growing a year ago. Came to this site for advice. Every peice of advice was wrong. It didnt matter what his rating was or not. Without being ther in the grow room and asking specific questions, it's very difficult to diagnose a problem from a description or a picture. When I 1st started I thought PM was the trichs falling off the bud onto the leaves, and I posted pics. Luckily one of the times I actually got some descent help. I posted the pic like, "Look at all the Trichs, they are just falling off." Dude says,"Those arent Trichs, that's PM."

This was probally one of the pics I posted. I was a douche too, I refused to believe it. This was 2 plants a skunk and Permafrost. Then I had to fix. Well after PM I got spider mites on my next grow(Afghan). I thought at first when I saw the web it was just a normal spider protecting my plant. I tryed looking for the spider, I couldnt find that fucker. Then at the grow light shop, dude told me what I had. Dicklicker told me to vacuum them. Well I have a big shop vac, Do not, I repeat do not use this. Got the spider mites on my next grow too(GDP). They really hurt ur yield. Well those grows are over. I know how to handle each problem from making mistakes.

My biggest advice, start small. I havent had more than 3 or 4 plants at a time. I usually had 1 flowering and a couple vegging. I have flowered a total of 6 plants in the last 12 months. I have 2 growing rooms, I started with a 250w halide, then upgraded to 400hps. These 2 where given to me. Then I bought a Growlab80 tent. After 6 months I bought a 600hps, and then last month a friend gave me a 1000w switchable ballast. So now I am learning to clone and am in the begining of a perpetual grow. I have a White Fire that is 3 weeks into flower, an Afgoo 1 week in flower, these are under my 600hps. Under my 1000w I got another Afgoo(day 49 of Vegg), 2 White Fire clones, and a Jack Herer seedling(4 weeks). I have more clones in the dome, Just saw a new root from another White Fire. I have 8 afgoo in various stages of cloning. I am looking to get 4-8ozs off each plant every 2 weeks, It's on nigga's