xtsho
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I hate the way some market LED's. That 1200 watt only pulls 210 watts and I can guarantee it does not come close to replacing a 1000 watt HPS. Check out the LED section https://www.rollitup.org/f/led-and-other-lighting.124/ I'd stay away from those cheap LED's on Amazon.
Yeah that's not close to how many watts you have just buy a cmh an start trying to learn about led
furnz
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I dont know a lot about LED but ive had my eye on the hlg quantum boards. Samsung LEDs and a great lightspread.
Their 550 pull 500 watts if I remember correctly but is 800ish usd.
For a cheaper light the mars ts 1000 (150 actual watts) has a good light spread and is about 150$.
Look up 'migro' on youtube. He does a bunch of great test on a huge variety of LEDs.
Their 550 pull 500 watts if I remember correctly but is 800ish usd.
For a cheaper light the mars ts 1000 (150 actual watts) has a good light spread and is about 150$.
Look up 'migro' on youtube. He does a bunch of great test on a huge variety of LEDs.
Right now most people are leaning towards the quantum boards as being the best LED. But who is to say, every year they come out and say the new stuff is the best and last years model isnt worth throwing in a garbage bin.
Kind of funny how quickly LEDs change from the greatest thing ever to the worst thing ever in a matter of months.
2 years ago, the LED folks were calling you a fool if you were not using Blurples. A year later the exact same people were calling you a fool if you were using a blurple.
In a few years they will be trashing the white lights for the new and improved dark light. You don't even have to plug it in. Just put your plant in the tent and come back 4 months later and it will be ready for you. No water, food, or anything, just buy our 800 dollar new tech darklight.
Kind of funny how quickly LEDs change from the greatest thing ever to the worst thing ever in a matter of months.
2 years ago, the LED folks were calling you a fool if you were not using Blurples. A year later the exact same people were calling you a fool if you were using a blurple.
In a few years they will be trashing the white lights for the new and improved dark light. You don't even have to plug it in. Just put your plant in the tent and come back 4 months later and it will be ready for you. No water, food, or anything, just buy our 800 dollar new tech darklight.
That's not true at all everyone has been shitting on blurple for the last 5 years what planet are you on? The white led will give the same good yields in 10 years as they do now.
hotrodharley
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A lot of those more expensive blurples are great for veg. A friend here uses a 1000 watt Viparspectra and gets great results in veg. This year he’s adding a 600 to help in flower. I just keep my mouth shut. They’re not up to it.
The LED light section here has good information from light freaks. It’s the future but good ones are ridiculously expensive.
I use one for veg.
I have quantum for 1 grow area and Hid for another.
I think you get my point... Before they were shitting on blurple they were praising them, whether it was 2 years ago or 10 years ago. It has been that way with LED since they became a thing. Granted, I do believe LED is the future of indoor lighting, but the point remains the same. Today's technology will be considered shit in a few years. That is my biggest issue with LED, the tech is constantly improving, at some point it needs to max out and then it will be the standard.
dandyrandy
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Diy Citi 1212's with cpu coolers is a cheap half way efficient (~150 ) lumens per watt way to go.
I think you just read to many "top ten led" lists those are just advertising the people writing them haven't actually seen or tested the lights. With your logic why grow at all? Next year there will be better equipment. Led can only get a little better you need some heat to be able to grow if led gets significantly better everyone will be buying heaters
You can get a good led for like $200 more than what cmh costed 3-4 years ago. You can get a prebuilt led that has more output than my first diy fixture for less money. Those might veg ok but an hlg light of the same wattage will veg better.
You may have missed my post where I said I use quantum boards. But I will guarantee you, within 3 years, the boards I paid 600 for, will be around 200 and there will be some other "must have" led for 600-800. Anyway, good luck with it.
xtsho
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Yes they were misled with marketing nonsense like "Will replace a 1000 watt HPS" and other nonsense even though only pulling 150 watts from the wall. Pure bullshit. A couple fancy charts and a few paragraphs of lies and people ate it up.
Nabbers
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I'm running a 600 from the PAR series and my only complaint is that the coverage area is rather small so I'm only cramming a couple plants under them - still the results have been decent, and I have to keep the light well raised to keep the top leaves from bleaching out. I've been running autos under it for a while, so that may have something to do with it, but I'm starting a photoperiod run right now to see how they do. Electrical usage has been a welcome change since switching over from HPS, but I haven't checked my exact numbers - I have the entire grow running through the Kilawatt right now. Still, if I had to do it again, I'd pony up for an Electric Sky because I've seen some amazing things come off of those.