BHO to Shatter ?

Sirdabsalot462

Well-Known Member
even if its not snap taffy... im just sick of the wax. ive given up on the dabber.. I just raised my nail, and drop a chunk onto the nail with my fingers, hoping it doesnt stick to my finger and fall off weird, only half of it hits the nail, and the rest drip down my dome :(
Wish I had a link for this one but might I suggest going with a HE domeless... I believe it fits over the male end, and has a large dabbing surface area, like a shallow bowl,
With small slits in side wall for the vapor.

I saw them at my local HS, they were reasonable priced, like 60$-70$..
 

vacpurge

New Member
youre in the states. 70$ there means 130$ in canada. for 3$ worth of metal, nah. I just spent 170$ on a diffuser, nail, and dome. bong shops here are joke!!
 

Garden Boss

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Glad I read this thread. I haven't yet ventured into Purge. I intend to get it started up after this harvest. Any tip on a good setup? Amazon?
 

Guzias1

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treasure this info garden boss

you want the freshest buds. and or trims going into your bho..

soo, this means, dry how ever your dry, and as soon as the buds are ready to be stored away, (prior to a lot of peoples curing) seal up everything so it stays dry, yet fresh..

fresh material is your your best bet for a good outcome..

rotary vane vacuum from a local appliance service shop, or off amazon
chamber can be home made , or bought off ebay
hot plate, pyrex, parchment, so on.. the list goes onnnnn

check it out, plenty of info thrown around in this thread as well :]

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ndm1952

Member
I live in calif also.. I just received through the mail, 5 gal 190 proof Grape Ethanol.. It is real expensive, but unmatched in purity when making concentrates.. There are tons of sites offering 190 proof, and even 200 proof "denatured alcohol" can be had in Calif.. Good Luck and be safe..
 

waxfigures911

New Member
I'm new to extraction, and am curious how to improve my results with the limited resources I have. I.e. no closed loop system, no vac purge etc. I just make small personal batches from mid grade bud and trim. First question, since I'm winterizing with 151 instead of 190, should the ratio of alcohol to bho be increased or decreased? And do "small batches" like 300ml or so need 24-48 hrs to process? My shatter comes out amber in color and the correct consistency, and I realize you "only get out what you put it". But any tips or tricks to low-tech high quality results would be great! Thanx.
 

JointOperation

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only winterize outdoor buds.. honestly its a waste of time.. he needs to vac purge.. fuck winterizing. lol.. unless its outdoors... outdoor plants make more waxs and shit because they are protecting the plants from UV A And B and everything else coming down on them from the sky.. winterizing isnt ness.. indoors thats grown well. doesnt produce 1/4 the amount of crap that outdoors produces in a bho extract atleast.
 

waxfigures911

New Member
Thanks. I read above that vaccum purge is only worth it for large batches. I usually only get about 300ml of bho after the warm waterbath. And then I mix in a ratio of 2-1 alcohol (only 151) then once those are mixed and stirred until there are no bubbles, I am left with about 300ml of the "new" mixture. Then I winterize for about only 12hrs, and double boil out the rest of the alcohol, leaving an amber/clear shatter when scraped. And it's not bad, but I was looking for tips on how to improve quality/quantity with the low-tech setup. I.E. Would freezing or heating the alcohol before adding to bho help? Should I freeze my buds before I pack the tube and so on... I have a couple hundred bucks invested, but don't want to keep buying equipment to make 4-5 grams of shatter a week. I live in an illegal state, otherwise I'd probably buy my shatter from a pro. And because I live in an illegal state I'm weary of ordering a bunch of manufacturing tools online. He'll I'm not sure if I should order 191 alcohol online, since I'm already breaking the archaic laws of the land where I reside, I don't need to pile on the risk. I got my recipe from youtube, and it works well. But always looking to improve, without upgrading set-up. Again any tips or tricks to low-tech high yield results would be greatly appreciated.
 

airmarkes

Member
Usually I don't ask questions because I know it's on me the effort to read and learn, however, I'd appreciate an answear since I'm about to harvest and running out of time... Its my first time on bho.. so.. follow me:
'Fresh product' is right after the harvest or right after the process of drying and curing as usual?
then, do I freeze it before dumping on butane? do I freeze the butane can too? the container as well?..
ok.. couple of minutes on butane.. then filter it.. so far so good.. now.. after purging the butane in a 115-130F water bath..
(I dont have vaccum machine), what is the ratio between bho and alcohol(iso)? (your numbers don't match wax911)..
Add alcohol, stir it a little, then Freeze for 48h.. Finally, purge again in 115-130F water till no bubbles and let it cool.. then gg?! thats it?! Thanks :]
 

Twitch

Well-Known Member
only winterize outdoor buds.. honestly its a waste of time.. he needs to vac purge.. fuck winterizing. lol.. unless its outdoors... outdoor plants make more waxs and shit because they are protecting the plants from UV A And B and everything else coming down on them from the sky.. winterizing isnt ness.. indoors thats grown well. doesnt produce 1/4 the amount of crap that outdoors produces in a bho extract atleast.
do not listen to this guy he doesn't know what hes talking about....

i don't consider something a true shatter until it has been polished or winterized or made into an absolute, all 3 mean the same thing :To clean or wash your BHO with a secondary solvent
 

francy420

Well-Known Member
Thanks. I read above that vaccum purge is only worth it for large batches. I usually only get about 300ml of bho after the warm waterbath. And then I mix in a ratio of 2-1 alcohol (only 151) then once those are mixed and stirred until there are no bubbles, I am left with about 300ml of the "new" mixture. Then I winterize for about only 12hrs, and double boil out the rest of the alcohol, leaving an amber/clear shatter when scraped. And it's not bad, but I was looking for tips on how to improve quality/quantity with the low-tech setup. I.E. Would freezing or heating the alcohol before adding to bho help? Should I freeze my buds before I pack the tube and so on... I have a couple hundred bucks invested, but don't want to keep buying equipment to make 4-5 grams of shatter a week. I live in an illegal state, otherwise I'd probably buy my shatter from a pro. And because I live in an illegal state I'm weary of ordering a bunch of manufacturing tools online. He'll I'm not sure if I should order 191 alcohol online, since I'm already breaking the archaic laws of the land where I reside, I don't need to pile on the risk. I got my recipe from youtube, and it works well. But always looking to improve, without upgrading set-up. Again any tips or tricks to low-tech high yield results would be greatly appreciated.
Try evaping the alcohol at room temp instead of using heat. After you winterize your solution just filter it off into a pyrex lined with parchment. Set in a dark dust free area with a fan blowing over it. let sit 24-48 hrs. You will be left with some serious goodies. I still vac purge after evap.
 

Twitch

Well-Known Member
Usually I don't ask questions because I know it's on me the effort to read and learn, however, I'd appreciate an answear since I'm about to harvest and running out of time... Its my first time on bho.. so.. follow me:
'Fresh product' is right after the harvest or right after the process of drying and curing as usual?
then, do I freeze it before dumping on butane? do I freeze the butane can too? the container as well?..
ok.. couple of minutes on butane.. then filter it.. so far so good.. now.. after purging the butane in a 115-130F water bath..
(I dont have vaccum machine), what is the ratio between bho and alcohol(iso)? (your numbers don't match wax911)..
Add alcohol, stir it a little, then Freeze for 48h.. Finally, purge again in 115-130F water till no bubbles and let it cool.. then gg?! thats it?! Thanks :]
How i wax ONNNNNNNNNNN <<< click me



Guzias posted this, all of ur answers are in here
 

waxfigures911

New Member
Thanx bro. Gonna make some soon, will post pics of the process in this thread for feedback. I'm teaching myself, so any criticism is welcomed.
 

waxfigures911

New Member
After the warm water bath, but before introducing the alcohol, I have about 300ml of "liquid" then when I mix in the alcohol(about 600ml) it begins to rapidly bubble, and once mixed together until the bubbles stop, I'm still left with a round d 300ml of liquid. I always associated the loss of volume with the rapid bubbling, and the alcohol "falling between the bho" like jar of marbles that you poured bb's into? The marbles being the alcohol.
But my question is since I'm using a lower proof alcohol with more water content, should I dial back the 2-1 ratio? More to like 1-1? Or should I add more to allow for a more saturated solution?
 

waxfigures911

New Member
After the warm water bath, but before introducing the alcohol, I have about 300ml of "liquid" then when I mix in the alcohol(about 600ml) it begins to rapidly bubble, and once mixed together until the bubbles stop, I'm still left with a round d 300ml of liquid. I always associated the loss of volume with the rapid bubbling, and the alcohol "falling between the bho" like jar of marbles that you poured bb's into? The marbles being the *bho. (Typo in the first post)
But my question is since I'm using a lower proof alcohol with more water content, should I dial back the 2-1 ratio? More to like 1-1? Or should I add more to allow for a more saturated solution?
sorry, I typed one wrong word that threw off my whole point...
 
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