Big Smo - Amare tech se-450 and mephisto genetics.

Grow photos soon but something I have been working on for awhile is finally completed. Fully adjustable, modular and expandable grow lights and grow light frames. Not cheap but easy as can be to build and fun. No comparison to my new pro4's and damn close to the same price but hobbies aren't cheap.

Nice job brother damn. I could use a few frames like that myself right now. Damn good job!

Thanks Evil. I don't have a use for them yet but someday when I do my 100 plant hail marry

Back to the reality. Grow started out real slow. Managing new strains and new breeder. Hubbabubbasmellascope what a name. Didn't seem to like light in the beginning and figuring out how hungry they were for nutes was a little tricky but I seem to have it all ironed out.

What I did was each light I set at a different height. 20-26&32 inches. Which ever plants looked the happiest after 2 days were set at that height. Seemed to work well. Also didn't the same with nutes. One group got 500 ppm while the 1000ppm. I ended up sticking with 850. Heavy feeders didn't seem to be as perky and the lower ppm seemed hungry still.

They are right before the pre flower stretch which is CRUCIAL to auto yields and overall size. Almost the same as making the 12-12 switch on photos. If you start flowering too soon with photos you'll end up with a tiny bunch. With autos you can't trigger flowering but you can slow them down and speed them up by doing things right. Shortly after pre-flowers appear they go for a huge final stretch. Allowing them to do their thing while still giving them veg nutes will show almost violent growth. I have seen 4 1/2 inches of vertical growth in one day alone. Once this stretch finishes then the best thing to do is ease into flower nutes slowly not to shock them.

Wow bro much bigger than my plant lol........I am actually wondering what mine will yield because to this point I was expecting a bigger plant. I think the little vacation I had early on might have prevented some much needed growth early on not sure.

Looking good how tall are yours?

Of forgot the most important part. Day 33 from sprout. 40-45 more days they should be ready to chop. Preparing for the next crop already too which I should be starting them in the next 15 days so the 30-40 day perpetual gets back on track. That's huge with these fast bitches.

Next run I'm going for a bunch of different pit sizes too. 3 of each 5gallon,7 gallon and 10 gallon. Keep going with the experiments I should be able to master these girls soon.

Evil-Mobo said:

Wow bro much bigger than my plant lol........I am actually wondering what mine will yield because to this point I was expecting a bigger plant. I think the little vacation I had early on might have prevented some much needed growth early on not sure.

Looking good how tall are yours?

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I'm sure you'll be fine. I always notice stressed plants go a little longer. I was always nervous about losing time but I have had 70 day autos hit day 100 before. I think these are around 30 inches. Wide as they are tall but very light looking. Almost like hybrids stripped bunch last week.

My Sour Hound F2 is in early flower and is 28" tall at the main cola top. I am also under T5's.

I'm hoping for 8oz per plant. So 1.5 lbs per light which is close to 1.5gpw any more will be a bonus but I really can't handle less then 4lbs.

Evil-Mobo said:

My Sour Hound F2 is in early flower and is 28" tall at the main cola top. I am also under T5's.

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Let me know how you make out. I'm looking for as much meph info as possible. Really don't want small yielders, that's why I have a few Dinafem as backups in my other rooms

Big smo said:

Let me know how you make out. I'm looking for as much meph info as possible. Really don't want small yielders, that's why I have a few Dinafem as backups in my other rooms

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I will definitely keep you posted but don't just go by me running one mephisto bean lol. Especially on a grow that I almost lost lol.........I will be running her again she's just starting to bud up on the very tops today but smelling great. Might have to hang the 600MH sooner than anticipated to get her under it......

Here's a quick pic of the top of the main right now forgot how many days from seed will have to look back in my log:

Any grow info no matter the yield is good. A shitty life and decent yield could be a winner. I'm surprised there isn't more meph runs around and why so many other breeders get such high demand. These genetics appear to be the best of the best.

Evil or anyone else interested you get 10% off for mentioning afn.com and they do a huge deal on 50 seeds. I think I paid 350 for 50 seeds and got another 10 hbbs and 10 skyrone stomper free. Helps shut up the auto growers who bitch about seed cost. 5 bucks and 2 months for 2grand worth of weed isn't a bad price.

Big smo said:

Any grow info no matter the yield is good. A shitty life and decent yield could be a winner. I'm surprised there isn't more meph runs around and why so many other breeders get such high demand. These genetics appear to be the best of the best.

Evil or anyone else interested you get 10% off for mentioning afn.com and they do a huge deal on 50 seeds. I think I paid 350 for 50 seeds and got another 10 hbbs and 10 skyrone stomper free. Helps shut up the auto growers who bitch about seed cost. 5 bucks and 2 months for 2grand worth of weed isn't a bad price.

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I didn't know about the bulk pricing I will keep that in mind that's awesome.

Big smo said:

I'm hoping for 8oz per plant. So 1.5 lbs per light which is close to 1.5gpw any more will be a bonus but I really can't handle less then 4lbs.

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The most one of my autos has given me so far (this is my third I believe) is 2 zips dry in the jar. 8 oz's per plant wow......I will be curious to see what this Sour Hound gives me but I do not think anywhere near 8oz lol......

Your running good lights. Good pots and soil you should nail it.

Big smo said:

Your running good lights. Good pots and soil you should nail it.

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We will see. I can't wait to try one in hydro

10 days ago

2 full trays 7 days ago

Today!

Has anyone done side by side on mammoth p? That's all I hear about these days. Miracle supplement according everyone but for the cost I'm not gonna dive in head first off of some guesses

Big smo said:

Grow photos soon but something I have been working on for awhile is finally completed. Fully adjustable, modular and expandable grow lights and grow light frames. Not cheap but easy as can be to build and fun. No comparison to my new pro4's and damn close to the same price but hobbies aren't cheap.

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Sweet job!

Big smo said:

Back to the reality. Grow started out real slow. Managing new strains and new breeder. Hubbabubbasmellascope what a name. Didn't seem to like light in the beginning and figuring out how hungry they were for nutes was a little tricky but I seem to have it all ironed out.

What I did was each light I set at a different height. 20-26&32 inches. Which ever plants looked the happiest after 2 days were set at that height. Seemed to work well. Also didn't the same with nutes. One group got 500 ppm while the 1000ppm. I ended up sticking with 850. Heavy feeders didn't seem to be as perky and the lower ppm seemed hungry still.

They are right before the pre flower stretch which is CRUCIAL to auto yields and overall size. Almost the same as making the 12-12 switch on photos. If you start flowering too soon with photos you'll end up with a tiny bunch. With autos you can't trigger flowering but you can slow them down and speed them up by doing things right. Shortly after pre-flowers appear they go for a huge final stretch. Allowing them to do their thing while still giving them veg nutes will show almost violent growth. I have seen 4 1/2 inches of vertical growth in one day alone. Once this stretch finishes then the best thing to do is ease into flower nutes slowly not to shock them. View attachment 3774679

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Wonder what would happen if you put 24 hrs of darkness on em? Might trigger exactly when you want. But I don't know shit about autos.
If you put your lenses on can you get the 4'?
Will that nice scrog get overpacked? Just remember last time they grew way out of the trays & there were plants everywhere. Same amount of plants n stuff right? 4 a tray or 3?
Looks hella good man. You're doing awesome quick.
Went from Mars to Stars real fast homie! Yup, they'ze about to blast off! Ill stay tuned as always.
As far as pit sizes go I think your magic # is 7. Deff. Not 10. 5's n 7's. A 7 will allow you a pounder.
Your set-up looks sweet. Great job!

Hmm. 24 hours of darkness they would probably grow a foot lol. A lot of the auto growers I know run their lights 24-7 but usually have the same results or less. Once I give them their 5 hours off they seem to start growing rapidly since they are searching for light, plus they still have a lot of photo genetics which have 12 hours off. Idk a lot more small experiments and things to mess with. Thanks hybrid for the comments. It's been a roller coaster for sure. The scrog is undersized, my problem is room since there are 7 more plants in here and also need to start more soon so the net can't really go past the frame on the floor. If the plants start filling it up I can hang yoyo's around the edges for the overflow. This is just a half ass way of saving work later on.

I'm now debating if 9 plants in this spot was to ambitious. I went away for 3 days and didn't notice much gain when I returned but after looking at those photos again I realized they are almost growing to fast. It will be tight in here but tight isn't always a bad thing either.