bodhi seeds

SYZ said:

Here's a Neroli 91 stepping into week 12 (shorter pheno was done at 10). LED and coco.

Had some major feed issues with this run and most of the other plants took offence, not so much this koopa-shell trooper.

Aromas true the variety's name: neroli and heady indolic white florals, lavender, with a milky tuberose and funky chem base.

Will run her again in soil

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nice pictures, nice bud structure, i've had a mango lotus with similar bud structure

copkilller said:

little update on my pheno hunt of dragon blood, old soul and mountain temple

12/12 from seed and most of these are in 1gal pots of living soil, that was stupid, i'm doing 30gal pots next run
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Lol, good call on the 30 gallon pots. You won't regret it! If im being honest for 1 gallon pots they don't look half bad imo. You have got to be on top of on top of shit to make that work period.

If you ask 100 no till growers how they got started I bet 80% plus will say in small pots! It's a valuable lesson starting into living soil. I wish you the best of luck moving forward..

Happy growing!


This was taken on the 20th *day 40 I think.
I have a few keeper cuts and newer tester shit I'm less than thrilled with. I have high hopes for next round as my beds become more established each run and the worms work the system. I didn't ammend much this round if at all. It's a decision I regret. Mostly problem free.

Both Wolfpack plants have cured maybe 8-9 weeks. I would say they are sisters. Growth and structure as well as taste and high. I knew when my wife said it was good, it is good! Very potent, Soaring high but no anxiety, taste is just like the mom, skunky gas is how I would describe it. The gas part is not straight Sour Diesel, but softer, doesn't burn the nose hairs. I tried using smaller pots this time and am now kicking myself because I think I diminished my yield by quite a bit. Oh well, I was doing a test to see if I could go smaller on pot size with my soil mix and the answer is no. Lol Live and learn. Still got 6 seeds of it so I will see what those bring and take cuts of females this time. I took cuttings of this last round and is the first time I've taken cuttings in years, about 90% success rate so not too shabby! I am going to start taking some cuts of ones that need F2's, I have finally got the reason why people save genetics through inbreeding. I told you Wolfpack was potent! Blah, blah, blah has me rambling. Sorry. Lol

Diesel0889 said:

Lol, good call on the 30 gallon pots. You won't regret it! If im being honest for 1 gallon pots they don't look half bad imo. You have got to be on top of on top of shit to make that work period.

If you ask 100 no till growers how they got started I bet 80% plus will say in small pots! It's a valuable lesson starting into living soil. I wish you the best of luck moving forward..

Happy growing!


This was taken on the 20th *day 40 I think.
I have a few keeper cuts and newer tester shit I'm less than thrilled with. I have high hopes for next round as my beds become more established each run and the worms work the system. I didn't ammend much this round if at all. It's a decision I regret. Mostly problem free.View attachment 4928952

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that's awesome, i'm literally looking into no-till for the first time right now, im looking into the buildasoil guy, it's so cool, this morning i was thinking 30gal pots, now 100gal, tomorrow maybe beds

the reason why i'm scared of no till, from what i see on the internet people always have 50 different bags of shit and powders, bone meals, fungus, rocks, live worm bin, hay, predator bugs, cover crop, moisture sensors, blumats all that stuff i just don't have time or room for it

having said that, that's the direction i've been going

for now i just do it as easy and cheap as i can with roots organic bagged soil and cheap dr earth dry amendments and tap water, it works but there is so much room for improvement, also i don't have much time to research much

I took most of last year off from growing. Finally got back to it about three months ago. Started a pack of Banana Spliff and four seeds from an older pack of Cherry Queen. I ended up with four Bananas and 2 Cherry Queens. About week before they were to scheduled to go into flower I started a pack of Peach hash plants by mistake ( was going to start some Cowbells), oh well. and three more of the Cherry Queens. All Bodhi seeds from last year or so. Then last week I decided to but some more seeds into soak and went with a seed company that I had never grown out before. (Mass Medical). Since they were Fem seeds I only started 5 Putangs and 4 of the Black Hole Suns. I don't know what I'm in for but it will be fun just learning. Just good to be back in the soil again.

3 55 day Old Soul have been chopped. Almost all calyxes have near 100% cloudy trykes. Very loud when I was removing training ties. Pine and turpentine and something from long ago memories that I cannot ID. Surprised at The loudness as they had been fairly subdued. Very sticky, even the stems are super tacky. Probably would have gone a little longer but had to make some space in flower tent. Well within any reasonable harvest window.

shellback1 said:

I took most of last year off from growing. Finally got back to it about three months ago. Started a pack of Banana Spliff and four seeds from an older pack of Cherry Queen. I ended up with four Bananas and 2 Cherry Queens. About week before they were to scheduled to go into flower I started a pack of Peach hash plants by mistake ( was going to start some Cowbells), oh well. and three more of the Cherry Queens. All Bodhi seeds from last year or so. Then last week I decided to but some more seeds into soak and went with a seed company that I had never grown out before. (Mass Medical). Since they were Fem seeds I only started 5 Putangs and 4 of the Black Hole Suns. I don't know what I'm in for but it will be fun just learning. Just good to be back in the soil again.

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I would encourage you to post about MMS in another thread. We've already had way too much mention and discussion of him/his gear here for a Bodhi thread.

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Boosky said:

Both Wolfpack plants have cured maybe 8-9 weeks. I would say they are sisters. Growth and structure as well as taste and high. I knew when my wife said it was good, it is good! Very potent, Soaring high but no anxiety, taste is just like the mom, skunky gas is how I would describe it. The gas part is not straight Sour Diesel, but softer, doesn't burn the nose hairs. I tried using smaller pots this time and am now kicking myself because I think I diminished my yield by quite a bit. Oh well, I was doing a test to see if I could go smaller on pot size with my soil mix and the answer is no. Lol Live and learn. Still got 6 seeds of it so I will see what those bring and take cuts of females this time. I took cuttings of this last round and is the first time I've taken cuttings in years, about 90% success rate so not too shabby! I am going to start taking some cuts of ones that need F2's, I have finally got the reason why people save genetics through inbreeding. I told you Wolfpack was potent! Blah, blah, blah has me rambling. Sorry. Lol

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Fucking sweet! This makes me want to pop @GreenHighlander ‘s F2s . Matter of fact, that might be the plan next month when I pop for an all female run

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How long did yours flower? Were they quick; i.e <60 days

copkilller said:

that's awesome, i'm literally looking into no-till for the first time right now, im looking into the buildasoil guy, it's so cool, this morning i was thinking 30gal pots, now 100gal, tomorrow maybe beds

the reason why i'm scared of no till, from what i see on the internet people always have 50 different bags of shit and powders, bone meals, fungus, rocks, live worm bin, hay, predator bugs, cover crop, moisture sensors, blumats all that stuff i just don't have time or room for it

having said that, that's the direction i've been going

for now i just do it as easy and cheap as i can with roots organic bagged soil and cheap dr earth dry amendments and tap water, it works but there is so much room for improvement, also i don't have much time to research much

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I recommend the Grape Grows guide BuildASoil sells. The information is out there all over the internet, but it's nice to have a concise hard resource that's well written with proven results.

For better or for worse, from the 7 Eden's Transmission seeds I was able to salvage, there's only 1 female. She's a beast and the males look like total studs. Quite uniform. I'm not sure what the hell is going on with the "replacements" I was sent. They've seemed to be stalled out and the leaves don't look anything like ET. Hopefully it's my bad, going to uppot today and see whats going on.

lambchopedd said:

Fucking sweet! This makes me want to pop @GreenHighlander ‘s F2s . Matter of fact, that might be the plan next month when I pop for an all female run

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How long did yours flower? Were they quick; i.e <60 days

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Gifted some to my buddy and they're beastly plants. He's always raving about them. Just flipped them to flower recently.

copkilller said:

that's awesome, i'm literally looking into no-till for the first time right now, im looking into the buildasoil guy, it's so cool, this morning i was thinking 30gal pots, now 100gal, tomorrow maybe beds

the reason why i'm scared of no till, from what i see on the internet people always have 50 different bags of shit and powders, bone meals, fungus, rocks, live worm bin, hay, predator bugs, cover crop, moisture sensors, blumats all that stuff i just don't have time or room for it

having said that, that's the direction i've been going

for now i just do it as easy and cheap as i can with roots organic bagged soil and cheap dr earth dry amendments and tap water, it works but there is so much room for improvement, also i don't have much time to research much

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I wholeheartedly agree with Diesel0889 that staying on top of one gallon living soil pots is a hard thing to do and you have done it beautifully.

Who you listen to in the living soil space will greatly influence how you proceed and what amendments you use. There is the Coot camp, which would include build a soul and KIS organics. Then there is the Dr. Elaine Ingham and the Soil Food Web bunch. Sure there is a lot of overlap but there are some fundamental differences too.

I would suggest spending your limited research time concentrating on Dr. Ingham's work if you really want to go deep into no till for whatever that is worth.

Good luck, though it hardly seems like you need it as evidenced by your killer looking plants.

Oh and if you are looking into reworking a new large pot or bed I would look into horizonal soil structure.

Rufus T. Firefly said:

I wholeheartedly agree with Diesel0889 that staying on top of one gallon living soil pots is a hard thing to do and you have done it beautifully.

Who you listen to in the living soil space will greatly influence how you proceed and what amendments you use. There is the Coot camp, which would include build a soul and KIS organics. Then there is the Dr. Elaine Ingham and the Soil Food Web bunch. Sure there is a lot of overlap but there are some fundamental differences too.

I would suggest spending your limited research time concentrating on Dr. Ingham's work if you really want to go deep into no till for whatever that is worth.

Good luck, though it hardly seems like you need it as evidenced by your killer looking plants.

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Lol, much easier said than done. I'm currently in the Intro course. I don't think people should have to spend thousands of dollars and/or hundreds of hours to be competent gardeners though. Do you have a resource you'd recommend for people digging in?

dankbydrew said:

Lol, much easier said than done. I'm currently in the Intro course. I don't think people should have to spend thousands of dollars and/or hundreds of hours to be competent gardeners though. Do you have a resource you'd recommend for people digging in?

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You don't need those courses to be a competent gardener IMHO. If you want to be a great one on the other hand, I think those would help immensely. If one were to compare the number of decades put into the research behind those courses I think it puts time spent on the courses into a better relative context, it does for me anyway.

An argument could be made that the information is important enough to be free to benefit all of us, but that's a whole other conversation lol.

Resources...the organics forum here, Jeff Lowenfel's Teaming With Microbes, Future Cannabis Project's living soil soil shows on Thursdays the last one with Scott Skamnes might be of particular interest as he's a working example of somebody making a career out of the SFW courses. Sometimes they are great sometimes they are more chatty and less science-y depending on the guests.


And the the lady herself has hours and hours of youtube stuff


I don't know if any of that helps but I'm nobodies expert and probably clogging up the thread with off topic stuff...fvckin stoners can't stay on topic amiright?!

Much appreciated @Rufus T. Firefly. Thanks for reminding me I need to finish watching this Lowenfels talk.

lambchopedd said:

Fucking sweet! This makes me want to pop @GreenHighlander ‘s F2s . Matter of fact, that might be the plan next month when I pop for an all female run

edit:
How long did yours flower? Were they quick; i.e <60 days

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74 days if I recall correctly. I always seem to flower longer than most, don't know if its lighting, environment or ? but I was consistently 7 to 10 days longer than my friend with the same cut.

hillbill said:

3 55 day Old Soul have been chopped. Almost all calyxes have near 100% cloudy trykes. Very loud when I was removing training ties. Pine and turpentine and something from long ago memories that I cannot ID. Surprised at The loudness as they had been fairly subdued. Very sticky, even the stems are super tacky. Probably would have gone a little longer but had to make some space in flower tent. Well within any reasonable harvest window.

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here's my old soul 12/12 from seed
none of mine have much smell yet

Rufus T. Firefly said:

I wholeheartedly agree with Diesel0889 that staying on top of one gallon living soil pots is a hard thing to do and you have done it beautifully.

Who you listen to in the living soil space will greatly influence how you proceed and what amendments you use. There is the Coot camp, which would include build a soul and KIS organics. Then there is the Dr. Elaine Ingham and the Soil Food Web bunch. Sure there is a lot of overlap but there are some fundamental differences too.

I would suggest spending your limited research time concentrating on Dr. Ingham's work if you really want to go deep into no till for whatever that is worth.

Good luck, though it hardly seems like you need it as evidenced by your killer looking plants.

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thanks! i will look into Dr. Elaine Ingham, what i understand from the coots camp is right up my alley, that's kinda what i've been doing just more practical and finessed

copkilller said:

the reason why i'm scared of no till, from what i see on the internet people always have 50 different bags of shit and powders, bone meals, fungus, rocks, live worm bin, hay, predator bugs, cover crop, moisture sensors, blumats all that stuff i just don't have time or room for it

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- Powders & meals and other bagged products should be no different from the amendments you use to make your current soil mix, if anything over time you'll be using less.
- Fungal inoculants shouldn't really be necessary if you start off with a good humus source.
- There's no need for a worm bin if you have active worms in your bed consuming your mulch layer.
- Beneficial insects are an equally important part of an organic container system as no-till, but they are probably more effective as a bio-control agent in a no-till setup. Plenty of beneficials will likely show up naturally like Hypoaspis Miles.
- Blumats are a useful tool for avoiding watering extremes, but definitely not necessary.

Ever since the rise of Instagram, YouTube and Facebook as channels of education organic gardening & no-till feel like they became a fashion statement and means for pushing some marketing agenda more than anything to do with gardening via living systems. Rodale being an intense ideologue kind of set the stage for that and now in the era of influencers and marketing it's a bit nauseating to say the least.

Elaine's soil biology primer was important work for its time, but advocates of micromanaging the ratios of the microorganisms in your soil always seem to be selling microscopes, courses for using microscopes and consulting. This might be a legitimate path in a situation where bio-remediation is the primary focus but in a controlled environment agriculture setup using a custom soil-mix it's probably not going to be a practical or even realistic approach. A safe path is to keep it simple and avoid extremes. Follow sound gardening methods, including practices such as mulching, cover crops & non competitive companion planting to avoid issues with mono-cultures and your system will find a nice balance naturally in my opinion. A high quality soil maintained with regenerative soil building practices, an environment optimal for plants, as well as quality genetics (Bodhi) seem like the best areas to focus for establishing a no-till garden. You can always complicate it down the road if you get bored.

Good read for those considering no-till or just living soil even :
Thinking in Systems: A Primer By Donella H. Meadows

To keep this Bodhi related :

Vaping early sample of Devil's Hashplant. Stoney and trance-like effects that are good for the night time without being sedating. Strong taste that sticks with you for a while after vaping.