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kmog33

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It was a winter of 'firsts', amigo. Had a first bout of pm that wiped out a beautiful tent of half bloomed Fat Purple, and had three males appear from 3 ' female ' seeds. :wall: No, really.

BTW - good to see you're back, well, and multiplying. :eyesmoke:
Man I had pm on my first run ever and have avoided it since lol. Ventilation and air movement are crucial. Mites I had a go with about 2 years ago from some outside clones. Just took my first outside clone about a month ago for my gg4, but I know dude pretty well and have seen his grows and the mom, so I feel pretty confident. Also nothing has shown up and it's been a month so I hope I'm in the clear.


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Amos Otis

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Man I had pm on my first run ever and have avoided it since lol. Ventilation and air movement are crucial.
Right....I've read that repeatedly, which is odd. If I'd had any more breeze on those plants, they'd have never been able to stand upright. Okay....that's an exaggeration, but not by much. I've found pm on a couple of other plants in veg since, so I now spray each tent with mildew kill before moving in new plants, then give the plants a spray one week into 12 / 12, whether I see it or not. You could say I've been traumatized, somewhat.....:blsmoke:

On a Bodhi, and good news note: two apollo 11 x snow lotus are nearing the finish line and looking just fine. One gets a chop a week from today, the other in 10 days. I'm expecting great smoke.

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kmog33

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Right....I've read that repeatedly, which is odd. If I'd had any more breeze on those plants, they'd have never been able to stand upright. Okay....that's an exaggeration, but not by much. I've found pm on a couple of other plants in veg since, so I now spray each tent with mildew kill before moving in new plants, then give the plants a spray one week into 12 / 12, whether I see it or not. You could say I've been traumatized, somewhat.....:blsmoke:

On a Bodhi, and good news note: two apollo 11 x snow lotus are nearing the finish line and looking just fine. One gets a chop a week from today, the other in 10 days. I'm expecting great smoke.

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Some plants are just more susceptible to it than other as well. I have to correct myself and say I've us it on my outdoor plants since my first grow, but haven't lost any nug to it since lol.

I've noticed the frontier a strain is, generally the more likely it is to get pm. I also live somewhere that humidity outside is never really that high. We get an occasional day that's wet, but as a whole its unusual. So ventilating with room air never raises the humidity, whereas I was talking to a buddy of mine in Texas that if he pulls regular air in, his humidity goes up lol. Fuck that.


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luv2grow

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High RH is the worst. I like Reg cure for spot treatments. Just lowered my RH 20-24% after swapping fans around, and its still dropping. Wasn't able to find a AC yesterday but my temp is down to 81deg/51% at the high. I'll glady take that over that 94deg spike I saw. now its 81 over 47. Moving in the right direction.
 

Al Yamoni

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High RH is the worst. I like Reg cure for spot treatments. Just lowered my RH 20-24% after swapping fans around, and its still dropping. Wasn't able to find a AC yesterday but my temp is down to 81deg/51% at the high. I'll glady take that over that 94deg spike I saw. now its 81 over 47. Moving in the right direction.
Spraying lacto B every couple days eats all the pm and plants love it, you can even ingest it yourself.

My veg cab is straight full and water is starting to accumulate on leaves because it's so crowded.. I have a feeling that I won't have any mold problems if I keep em hosed down with the lacto b serum.. Stuff stinks but it's like Jesus in a bottle.
 

luv2grow

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Spraying lacto B every couple days eats all the pm and plants love it, you can even ingest it yourself.

My veg cab is straight full and water is starting to accumulate on leaves because it's so crowded.. I have a feeling that I won't have any mold problems if I keep em hosed down with the lacto b serum.. Stuff stinks but it's like Jesus in a bottle.
I looked that up the last time you mentioned it! and of course got side tracked. I'll get back to reading it. I would love a beneficial foliage spray that just doesn't just change the Ph of the leave to fight PM.
And now the room is all poly'd and sealed up i can begin to use one. Moving rooms is such a nightmare if you don't have a gang of cash to upgrade all the necessary equipment before the build takes place. lesson learned again. Now how to retain these lessons I learn over and over again :dunce:

side note the Extra's as I call them look unaffected at day 30. A friend is dropping off a Nikon 20d macro setup up tonight. So lets have some fun with it. Even though the screen had some nanners. we might have caught all this stuff early enough to get some decent enough bud porn. this is the last shitty cell phone camera pic.
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greasemonkeymann

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Yeah dude it sucks.. This is my first time ever having indoor pest out of 4 years of growing.. I think they are causing me to sprout my first grey hair grrrrr

I got them from a local grow store
me and mites go way back... WAY fuckin back... like to the 90s... and every damn one of them are dirty, unwashed, filthy overpriced whores with large bouncers.
Do as much research as you can before using miticides, in my experience
the best thing is any product that utilizes dichlorvos
BUT the caveat being that the grow can't be in your living space
either way please do you own due diligence BEFORE spraying or using anything.
dichlorvos is used in lots of ways, it's whats in fleacollars and a myriad of other products, it's only active for a SHORT while and doesn't leave any residues on the buds, I don't use it during the last month of flowering just to be absolutely certain it's all gone (destroyed by light)
the mites out here laugh at EVERYTHING... I've used it all, NO fuckin joke...
best is a dichlorvos strip, replaced (or simply adding another) every 5 days for 15 days will kill them all, it does NOTHING for eggs so you must repeat the application similar to a spray\
turn off ventilation and give your plants an "cycle" off, and allow them to be in still air with the strip for at least 20 hrs before exhausting the fans again.
 

greasemonkeymann

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What is your normal MH height? I mounted a 16 inch hurricane blowing over it and the hoods ducted to a 6 inch vortek on high. MH seemed warmer than the new bulb in the hps. First time I've ran across that one. Appreciate the info! makes me wonder if i need a booster in there now.
yea, it's a bigger lamp(bulb itself), and more of the electricity is "lost" to BTUs, so there is more heat from a MH, shit I think my 400w mh puts out more than my 600hps...
the way I set it up is I have two 600s in series, the first (closet to my 6" vortex) is a sealed glass aircooled reflector, then piped to the mh reflector, which is the same as the other, only I take the glass out to make sure none of those uvs are being blocked (I am running the 10k 600mh)
so it gets "vacuumed" constantly at the source of the lamp, but the reflector is open, so considering the reflector does sorta gather heat, I have a separate fan aimed (angled so it's not blowing the tips of my colas) at the open reflector to keep it from gathering too much heat.
No problems.
BUT... I run at night... and it's the winter...and i'm in a redwood forest..
but even in the 100+ summers (again, at night) I don't have any heat issues.
 

luv2grow

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yea, it's a bigger lamp(bulb itself), and more of the electricity is "lost" to BTUs, so there is more heat from a MH, shit I think my 400w mh puts out more than my 600hps...
the way I set it up is I have two 600s in series, the first (closet to my 6" vortex) is a sealed glass aircooled reflector, then piped to the mh reflector, which is the same as the other, only I take the glass out to make sure none of those uvs are being blocked (I am running the 10k 600mh)
so it gets "vacuumed" constantly at the source of the lamp, but the reflector is open, so considering the reflector does sorta gather heat, I have a separate fan aimed (angled so it's not blowing the tips of my colas) at the open reflector to keep it from gathering too much heat.
No problems.
BUT... I run at night... and it's the winter...and i'm in a redwood forest..
but even in the 100+ summers (again, at night) I don't have any heat issues.
Awesome!! thanks for sharing that, I always run at night as well. My fan setup may be backwards atm but i manged to get the first hood really cool. I'm pulling not pushing with the vortek and its got the can filter on the end of it, so more restriction. might be a better option to swap that over. Or do a sealed light system and run the can filter on a separate fan on the ceiling of the roof. hmm to the drawing board!
 

luv2grow

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me and mites go way back... WAY fuckin back... like to the 90s... and every damn one of them are dirty, unwashed, filthy overpriced whores with large bouncers.
Do as much research as you can before using miticides, in my experience
the best thing is any product that utilizes dichlorvos
BUT the caveat being that the grow can't be in your living space
either way please do you own due diligence BEFORE spraying or using anything.
dichlorvos is used in lots of ways, it's whats in fleacollars and a myriad of other products, it's only active for a SHORT while and doesn't leave any residues on the buds, I don't use it during the last month of flowering just to be absolutely certain it's all gone (destroyed by light)
the mites out here laugh at EVERYTHING... I've used it all, NO fuckin joke...
best is a dichlorvos strip, replaced (or simply adding another) every 5 days for 15 days will kill them all, it does NOTHING for eggs so you must repeat the application similar to a spray\
turn off ventilation and give your plants an "cycle" off, and allow them to be in still air with the strip for at least 20 hrs before exhausting the fans again.
When i worked in commercial flower production we had these little fuckers all the time. we would hit them with the craziest/nasty chemical cocktails. When that didn't work we would send them to a lab for testing. The reports would try to nail a way to kill them efficiently without them mutating. Yes mites are Darwin's finest example on the face of this planet other than virus's. They evolve every breeding cycle since If i remember right... I Believe they are born pregnant which is fucked. Moral of the story. fuck mites check outside shit diligently. Once they are there you better dig in cause you got a long fight coming.
 

greasemonkeymann

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When i worked in commercial flower production we had these little fuckers all the time. we would hit them with the craziest/nasty chemical cocktails. When that didn't work we would send them to a lab for testing. The reports would try to nail a way to kill them efficiently without them mutating. Yes mites are Darwin's finest example on the face of this planet other than virus's. They evolve every breeding cycle since If i remember right... I Believe they are born pregnant which is fucked. Moral of the story. fuck mites check outside shit diligently. Once they are there you better dig in cause you got a long fight coming.
shit... I could probably spray them with agent-orange, ddt, and gasoline all mixed together and they'd all collectively laugh in my face...
and give me a big
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and then get back to their remarkable and insane reproduction rates...
those fuckers procreate like rats on viagra
 
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