browning sugar leaves = time to harvest?

Overgrowtho

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Here is the plant after she got the chop and is now hanging in the closet.

Looking at the old growth its had issues for a long time.
Please elaborate on what you noticed bro? I'm always keen to learn.

I'm intrigued by your pedal to the metal rock it til the wheels fall off grow style.
Thanks for your feedback. I've been working much on it all recently, learning the newest science, and so happy to finally get the fruits of my labor for this new chamber. First indoor harvest, since 20 years ago!
 

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Wizzlebiz

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Why? Looked to me like 75% orange pistils.
And the browning leaves.
I also found some 10% amber trichomes.

Was glad I cut her when I did because trimming dead brown leaves out of good bud is no fun...
Way too many white pistils, the amber you saw was absolutely on the sugar leaves and not the buds. Those had at least 2-3 more weeks. In which they pack on the most weight. Not only in density but in sheer mass. You legit lost 30-40% of your harvest by chopping way early.

I have never seen a 7 week ripe plant. Breeders lie. The minimum I have personally seen was 10 weeks for proper ripeness. I had a plant this past summer that went 15 weeks in flower (documented here on RIU).

Yea trimming dead leaves out of buds absolutely sucks. But chopping right before the good part of the grow is way worse imo.

The goal is to not have dead leaves in the buds to begin with. That's my suggestion for the next grow.
 

Mike6326

Member
A bit of amber trichomes but she's still pushing out white pistils. I tend to think that I should Harvest right now or in a couple days because the sugar leaves are turning a bit brown and those will be difficult to trim. Ready or wait?
Looks to me it's time to harvest! You don't them to get more amber even though you are still getting white flowers.
 

Overgrowtho

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Brown leaves are not an indication that the plant is finished. They are an indication that you're rushing the plant to finish.
Rushing how? I kept everything normal (high Co2, temps, feeding, watering).


You have tons of issues that are causing the leave to brown like that. they shouldn’t be browning period.
Please enlighten, what issues could have caused it?
 

DoobieDoobs

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Rushing how? I kept everything normal (high Co2, temps, feeding, watering).



Please enlighten, what issues could have caused it?
I had brown sugar leaves, and I blame that on my lack of proper air flow, my grow tent is a homemade tent also I had no fans (I'm currently saving to buy a good tent with everything they need) and in the nights the air flow was very poor, and I believe that's why I had brown leaves and later found out some of my buds were rotting on the inside. This grow I bought 3 fans that I plan on running 24/7 when the time comes, plus my window will remain open xD.
 

Wizzlebiz

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Others can affirm this diagnosis?




Others agree with this? Pretty bold statement. May be true or not? It's a big deal...
I can absolutely guarantee both statements are absolutely on point.

When the tops of the plants begin to have leave issue that means you have messed up and locked out the immobile nutrients for the plant. This is a fact.

The statement the avg flowering time is 10 weeks is a fact. The statement that breeders lie about flowering times is a well known thing here.

@Doug Dawson
@PadawanWarrior
@HydroKid239
@Wattzzup

Am I off on any of these points?
 

sarahJane211

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Here is the plant after she got the chop and is now hanging in the closet.



Please elaborate on what you noticed bro? I'm always keen to learn.


Thanks for your feedback. I've been working much on it all recently, learning the newest science, and so happy to finally get the fruits of my labor for this new chamber. First indoor harvest, since 20 years ago!
Looks fine to me.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I can absolutely guarantee both statements are absolutely on point.

When the tops of the plants begin to have leave issue that means you have messed up and locked out the immobile nutrients for the plant. This is a fact.

The statement the avg flowering time is 10 weeks is a fact. The statement that breeders lie about flowering times is a well known thing here.

@Doug Dawson
@PadawanWarrior
@HydroKid239
@Wattzzup

Am I off on any of these points?
If the new growth is having issues I could be multiple things actually. Too much or not enough nutes. pH, or nute lockout. Light burn, etc.

Right now I have a plant that's still adjusting to the potent top dress I added a week ago. It's way greener, but you can see the new growth is kinda freaking out. The leaves grow out of it though. I just gave a little too much this time.
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10 weeks is a good average for most hybrids, but sativas want more time.

But most hybrid strains they claim are 8 week strains, so in those cases 10 weeks is usually about perfect.
 

Wizzlebiz

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If the new growth is having issues I could be multiple things actually. Too much or not enough nutes. pH, or nute lockout. Light burn, etc.

Right now I have a plant that's still adjusting to the potent top dress I added a week ago. It's way greener, but you can see the new growth is kinda freaking out. The leaves grow out of it though. I just gave a little too much this time.
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10 weeks is a good average for most hybrids, but sativas want more time.

But most hybrid strains they claim are 8 week strains, so in those cases 10 weeks is usually about perfect.
Keep in mind these are the plants in question.
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Looks like many lockouts that are not addressed I have run into in the past.
 
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