Bubbalicious auto fem - hermie situation

So here's the thing.

I've got 5 Bubbalicious feminized autos in the grow box. It's a second week of flowering. Girls 've been under lots of stress - 1. Over watering and over heating in the early stage. After first 2 weeks it stopped growing, just stayed at the same size for 2 weeks and started to become looking worse. After some treatments it got back on track. Anyway... today I've noticed a "penis" on one of the girls.


I would like to make a bit of seeds, but at the same time I don't want to pollinate all the plants. Is there a possibility to collect the pollen from that one tiny "penis" and pollinate only 1 bud, while keeping all plants in the same grow box?

your best bet would be to seperate them and then collect the pollen. then using a small brush to brush the pollen onto the bud/buds you want to pollinate.

If you breed with a hermie you increase the chance of hermie offspring

fem seeds are created with hermied pollin lol. using something like colloidal silver to force the plant to hermie then pollinating other plants. which deprives the plant of the chromosome they need to turn male.

Whats with the lol its you that does not understand the concept
Yes I have used cs before and other methods
yes theres a big difference between fem seeds made from an environmental stress and chemical stress

you would breed a plant that would not hermie from the environment as your passing on that trait or you risk the chance every time you over water for example you would ruin a crop
CS does not exist in a normal grow and you would use that on plant that does not stress from the environment
unless you don't want stable plants carry on

make good seed strains from good pollen, not from an auto. shit+shit still comes out shit.

the higher hermie chance comes from self pollinating a plant with itself. if you have a hermie and pollinate other plants you should be fine. the hermie gene is the same regardless of how it's created.

yes but a plant that hermies still carries a hermie trait that why real breeders are supposed to grow 100 plants and all plants showing hermie quality's are binned and the stable ones are then reversed we dont want the hermie trait carried. why would anyone grow a plant that is prone to hermie and seed there plants


there plenty of threads on breeding try searching dj shorts has a good book on it

jesus of Cannabis said:

make good seed strains from good pollen, not from an auto. shit+shit still comes out shit.

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Ive grown both and theres some good autos out there tested at 19%

friendlyperson92 said:

the higher hermie chance comes from self pollinating a plant with itself. if you have a hermie and pollinate other plants you should be fine. the hermie gene is the same regardless of how it's created.

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A plant that seeds itself is not more likely to produce hermaphrodites. A ton of available varieties of weed have been back crossed.

Agito said:

yes but a plant that hermies still carries a hermie trait

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No.
Let's define what we are talking about first.
A plant that is not environmentally stressed that shows male and female flowers from the beginning of maturity, to me, is a real hermaphrodite. It will make seeds that produce either males, females or hermaphrodites.

If a plant is female and gets stressed, it may produce male flowers. The resulting seeds will be female (assuming a female was pollinated). The seeds will be no more likely to show male flowers from stress than the parents. There is no hermie trait, that is a made up internet term that no one can seem to explain to me.


The resulting seeds will be likely to produce male flowers under stress in the same way as the parents.
The OP said his plants were heavily stressed. If he had good conditions, the plant most likely would not have shown male flowers.
The resulting seeds will be the same.

The important thing to remember is that stress can not be passed on in dna. Stress is environmental.

Agito said:

that why real breeders are supposed to grow 100 plants and all plants showing hermie quality's are binned and the stable ones are then reversed we dont want the hermie trait carried. why would anyone grow a plant that is prone to hermie and seed there plants


there plenty of threads on breeding try searching dj shorts has a good book on it

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Those plants are actual hermaphrodites as I mentioned above. They have an X and a Y chromosome.
The breeder will also throw away plants that have a tendency to throw balls under just light stress.

If you start with good genetics, like from a breeder that has done his work like you mentioned, hermaphrodites should not be a problem.

to get rid of the hermie gene. it would take thousands of years. because it is inherent to all cannabis as a survival mechanism to carry on the species. so it would take thousands of years to get rid of it just like it took thousands of years to evolve it. try taking a biology class that's not at the 9th grade level and learning about genetics.

not really sativas were crossed with indicas which reduced this traits as sats where well known for this
explain to me why certain strain are prone to hermi such as dp blueberry

as only 1 of his plants hermied there's not telling for sure it was environment or a full on hermi and the environmental stress i assume was not even from light stress so his plant if looked at the wrong way could through out nanas is that really a trait you want to keep?

there plenty of poor lines out there that suffer more from this trait. I had one auto strain all produce 2 male flowers on the third node but no where else seemed genetic to me

"It's all about the hormones. If you spray gibberellic acid on a female plant you'll get male flowers, but those flowers will produce pollen that is only female. This is how feminized seed are produced, well, at least good feminized seed.

It comes down to a balance between female and male hormones. I do believe that if it's a stress issue causing some pollination (where unstressed it never produces pollen) then the plant is probably xxxy. This then gives you xx and xy pollen to an xx and xy ovum. The result should be 1/4xxxx, 1/4xxyy, and 1/2xxxy. 25% no herm, 25% strong herm, and 50% weak herm, technically all female but 75 of them are herms.

With a pure female, stress should not induce seed however, a genetic mishap (possibly stress) could produce a diploid egg and it would grow a seed that is a clone of the mother (you're likely only to find 1 of these seeds in several pounds of herb). Likewise, gibberellic acid on a pure female is virtually a clone although, there is likely to be recombination of genes, which won't do much visibly."

Here is a couple of paragraphs from the Indoor Bible, by Jorge Cervantes

Environment and Stress

Always give plants the absolute most stable environment possible. Stable environment allows plants to follow their genetic traits without interference. Stress plants by altering the environment and genetic characteristics are affected. Some likely characteristics of environmental stress include abnormal flowers and flowering traits. Often rookie breeders turn the lights out for a day or two or leave the lights on too long after a consistent 12 hour light/dark period is maintained and plants produce abnormal flowers - female flowers with male parts, a stigma protruding from a male flower or female flowers bearing male anthers.

Sex reversal is often result from stressed plants. Sporadic male flowers on a predominately female plant frequently occur on stressed plants. These sexually confused plants are not natural hermaphrodites. They are stressed plants with intersex tendencies manifested as hermaphrodite or monocious plants. Do not confuse these deviations to be a new variety or a hermaphrodite plant. Such plants are the result of stress and not suitable for breeding stock. Had these plants been grown properly, they would be suitable for selective breeding. Stressed plants with hermaphroditic tendencies are generally less potent and low yielding. A person must learn to be a good grower before they can become a good breeder.