DrBlaze
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Very good idea. I wish I'd done that my first (and prob second) time around
Bubbleponics/DWC top fed seedling issue HELP
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TheWizZ
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These are some updated pictures, any comments? I did some research on deficiencies and it seems like they're lacking potassium and maybe calcium? but I added a small amount of calmag when I added nutes bc I figured my well water already has some in it. You think I should add some more or do anything different or continue to let her ride?Very good idea. I wish I'd done that my first (and prob second) time around
TheWizZ
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GH flora series's 235ppm and I use well water that comes out the faucet at 70-90ppm.
rkymtnman
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flora series a and b is great. i think you are way to high ppm wise. so total ppm is 300+?
can you get your hands on RO water?
i run my seeds/sprouts/seedlings (those size) about 0.1 EC or maybe 50 to 100 ppm ish.
any roots outside the netpot yet?
TheWizZ
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235 ppm in total that's water, nutes, ph down and a little bit of calmag. I don't want to have to deal with getting RO if possible.
No roots yet but they were stunted up until like 3-4 days ago so hopefully in the next week or so.
DrBlaze
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Focus only on the new growth, it looks perfect. There is nothing you can do to make the older growth look better. Its very slow at first for these little guys to recover. A large plant will recover in a few days, just like an adult person will. But imagine a small baby getting sick, it can take much longer since they are so fragile.
I'm very happy with how the new growth looks. In a week you won't recognize those plants.
TheWizZ
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Thanks a lot! Good to hear!
firsttimeARE
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That is plenty nutrients. Its like 0.3EC of nutes.
I do agree with rkymtn though and that RO would be great at this point since your starting unknown ppm makes up a good deal of your total ppm. Therefore you do not know what ratio you even have going on.
For instance 20ppm of my 80ppm water is calcium. So if im adding calmag in addition to regular nutes im giving it way too much calcium, which throws off K.
So if im feeding 80ppm of K, 10ppm Mg, 40ppm N, 40 ppm P at this point I dont need any Ca cause my water has 20ppm of it already. ANymore would throw off the K:Ca:Mg balance.
For seedlings I go against the grain and use an aerocloner. This way all the time im wasting in the starter cubes building roots that will then again have to build from to reach the res. The roots I grow in the cloner can feed right through the netpot and be in the water right from transplant. Eliminating the need to top feed and getting my rockwool thats thirsty AF absorb so much water it suffocates the plant inside.
Best part is the neoprene collars can be reused as long as you transfer when the stalk is thin enough that it hasnt dented the collar. And the 2" netcups are reusable.
The main price is a cheap pump ($25, bucket and sealable lid [I used a bucket and a snap lid from lowes for like $5] and the netcups and neoprene are like $0.35 a pair and the sprayers and cpvc were like $8 )
So cost = y
x= # of sites
y= $38 + [ $0.35 x ]
TheWizZ
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I definitely don't want to pay for RO or go trough the trouble of getting it when I get 70-90ppm water out of my well. I can always have it tested to figure out the % of what's in it if anything. I'm feeling pretty confident right now with the way things are going so I'm gonna continue forwards until something major happens. Appreciate the input! I'm thinking of making a aerocloner in a 5gal bucket as well just not sure when. I have he pump and everything already.
firsttimeARE
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Thats why I did it as well, had the pump and buckets. Only extra was the netcups and collars.
By all means get it tested. I dont use RO my tap is only 80ppm, but I know what those 80ppms are made up of.
All I suggested was buy a few gal of distilled. Costs $0.86 per gal at wal-mart not a whole RO setup.
TheWizZ
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Yeah I agree with you that it would be a better route but I don't want to add extra steps if it's not needed. I'm gonna have mine tested here soon and go that route. I just don't want to have to pick up water every week when I have a very good ppm at the faucet. Thanks again for the input!
DrBlaze
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Your new growth seems deficient in something. How many days since you changed your solution? When you subtract the ph adjustments, the cal-mg and your base ppm, you didn't have a lot of base nutes, and you may have gone through most of them, or some important mironutrient. What"s your ppm now?
TheWizZ
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It's at 255ppm. I've only added back to it this far because I figured they haven't touched the water yet and it's 15gal of water so I figured there's plenty of nutes in there. I'm going to take two new pictures because the very new growth looks good on one plant and the other looks deformed a little I assumed because it was stunted.
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DrBlaze
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Hmmm... I can't imagine how those little things have even begun to use up the 15 gal.
What worries me is the lightness of the new growth and the twisting in the second plant. It looks like the result of ph imbalances. Have there been any wild swings, and have you calibrated your meter recently?
TheWizZ
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Yeah my meters been calibrated and it's been right at 5.8 with hardly no swing at all. I'll double check it to be sure now. Could it be anything else? Kind of thought things were going good lol...
255ppm and 5.9 ph as of now. Also I think the color in the picture may look a bit different but the one plant in person looks rather healthy with the very very new growth coming out the center being light but when the leaves form they seem to have gained that darker green. Not trying to contradict you, just trying to learn
. Also remember that these are random seeds and can be whatever genetics.. Could that be a cause too?
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