bud gone bad...

mushroom head

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If I would have chopped my whole blueberry because of the mould I found on it two weeks ago I would have some real immature bud that wouldnt get a novice smoker high. I'm glad I kept cutting out infected areas and let her keep going. Just tested a bud the other day and it got me high so looks like I won't be fighting the mould much longer. I go out every two days to cut out mouldy buds, and get roughly a half ounce every two days.

If I had dozens of plants sure I'd just chop the whole plant, some of us don't have that luxury..
 

Humanrob

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This being my first outdoor, I kept an indoor going too because all I kept reading about was everything that could go wrong. So I suppose I have the ability to lose this one entirely if I choose to. But the rest of my crop (four plants) is doing poorly because of insufficient sunlight, so I'd rather not lose this if I can help it -- it is the only one that has decent colas. We're also not at all opposed to edibles and tinctures, so nothing I can use will be wasted.

There's a hydro store not too far away that opens at noon, I'll run over and get one of those hanging basket things since these buds will be too chopped up to hang normally. I'm not sure how much I'll take down or if I'll leave anything to continue, I'll decide that as I go. I have a Chemdawg in the same structure, its seems fine, its buds are not nearly as dense though. I'm going to try and hang an extension cord (or two) out a window and see if I can get a fan in there to keep the Chem dryer for the rest of its time.

I think it was just a perfect storm; this plant is at the north end, it has huge dense sticky buds, and apparently its genetics left it susceptible to this rot. I live in Oregon, every kind of imaginable spore is in the air all the time, so while I will be careful as I take it down, this is not a hermetically sealed environment. The spores are everywhere, and will be everywhere. Lots of lessons learned.

Thanks again to everyone who offered help, it is much appreciated.
 

hellmutt bones

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I've been trimming rot and keeping them going as long as possible. That's me though I know some people just chop the whole plant but I don't have enough plants to do that, I need to end up with some mature product.
Bud rot continues into the drying stage and afte so i wish i could tell u just to cut it down but its gona spread and still a waste ur time.
 

Humanrob

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Bud rot continues into the drying stage and afte so i wish i could tell u just to cut it down but its gona spread and still a waste ur time.
Interesting... we'll see what happens, hopefully they will dry quickly.

We threw out all the buds with any sign of mold and kept the ones that looked clean. Any buds that were dense we'd bend and spread open and look inside, about 1/4 of them had hidden mold in them. What's left I'm sure is far from perfect, but I think it will be usable in a non-smoking form. We'll use twice as much in the butter and tincture as we normally would, I think it will do the job.
 

hellmutt bones

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Interesting... we'll see what happens, hopefully they will dry quickly.

We threw out all the buds with any sign of mold and kept the ones that looked clean. Any buds that were dense we'd bend and spread open and look inside, about 1/4 of them had hidden mold in them. What's left I'm sure is far from perfect, but I think it will be usable in a non-smoking form. We'll use twice as much in the butter and tincture as we normally would, I think it will do the job.
Im not sure u should use it at all. Its bud rot look into it. Its gonna keep rotting till it turns all the bud moldy, google it.
 

WV: Jetson

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Well Monkey Man, I thank you. After you first started this post, I went and checked my last lady, and just my luck: rott! Clipped that cola and the next day: rott! Clipped that cola and said to myself three strikes and yer out. Long story short, she's out. I dramatically excised the bad and am hoping for some salvage. The nights have been so cool around here these last few weeks. I was covering her every evening and uncovering every morning, but... I thought I was being diligent. nsmail-5-1.jpg

Sorry, I haven't got the pic sequence down yet.
 

CA MTN MAN

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Yea I dealt with pretty bad rot a few years back... your only real option is to find a new place to grow with higher temps and lower humidity. Good luck with that
 

mushroom head

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My blueberry plant that I cut some mould off of 2 weeks ago is still going strong, pretty sure the cold nights have stopped the mould growth, and I've never had bud rot continue in the drying stages, I don't dry in a room with high humidity.
 

CA MTN MAN

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That's good then... When I had rot it kept going into the drying stage so I put it all in bags and put it in the freezer and it stopped the mold growth. Then I dried it in direct sun a week later and made bho
 

Humanrob

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Mine could have been avoided, it was a series of rookie mistakes. A big one was not understanding how much humidity accumulates at night. The plants I have with good air movement are fine. It happened that the one with the biggest thickest buds was in a structure that had the least air movement. I did some reading, and I've also been learning about how much to water an outdoor in a 100 gallon smart pot -- I think I was over-watering it. I read that can encourage bud rot. So there were avoidable mistakes made, next year will be better.

Now that its legal here in Oregon, I'll probably grow at my brother's next year, he has three acres of south facing slope... a whole different world from my heavily treed neighborhood.
 

WV: Jetson

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@ humanrob: same for me re. the rookie mistakes. My two plants - bag seed - were in to different raised beds that were also used for veggies and flowers. When those earlier rains came (I'm down in the valley on the banks of the mighty Willamette), and the dew started settling at night, I put up individual "hoop" houses. Which worked for the moisture from above, but also collected evaporation from the soil inside every night. So I would close her up each night and uncover in the morning. I thought it was working ok until I found out it wasn't. I now feel my housekeeping skills weren't as sharp as they could have been. Next year..... all the ladies are going to be together in a dedicated bed. Unless your brother has more room 8-)
 

Humanrob

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@ humanrob: same for me re. the rookie mistakes. My two plants - bag seed - were in to different raised beds that were also used for veggies and flowers. When those earlier rains came (I'm down in the valley on the banks of the mighty Willamette), and the dew started settling at night, I put up individual "hoop" houses. Which worked for the moisture from above, but also collected evaporation from the soil inside every night. So I would close her up each night and uncover in the morning. I thought it was working ok until I found out it wasn't. I now feel my housekeeping skills weren't as sharp as they could have been. Next year..... all the ladies are going to be together in a dedicated bed. Unless your brother has more room 8-)
We also did the shared bed thing, in one case -- we have grapes growing along a structure that holds up the plastic over two girls. They did block way more sun than we anticipated by growing much faster than expected. We are now working with hoop houses where we leave the ends open all the time, and in one situation the plastic only reaches the ground on the east side (where our wind issues would come from, if we have high winds). So we are focusing on keeping the rain off the top of the plant where the buds are, and letting as much air flow as possible everywhere.

All that said, the plant that matured the quickest, and is now our champion for the biggest buds, was from a mystery seed a friend gave us, and we grew it without any protection at all, in among the other plants in the garden. No spray, no nutes (until midway through flower, and then I gave it some tomato ferts we gave the other plants), no cover. It did have a praying mantis that lived in it for about a month, which couldn't hurt. That one I've been harvesting in stages, stage two will be when I finish typing this....
 

dirtpower

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Wish I could have thrown some pollen your way to get some seeds from that bad bitch....sounds just like the DR ordered for around these parts.
 

Moonwalk

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image.jpeg What nightmarish stories!

Is bud rot mainly a humidity-dampness-low circulation-rainy type of problem?

I'm glad I live in an area sunnier and drier than Los Angeles. Our average humidity is around 15%, lower than Las Vegas.

This is my first grow.
 
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