Buddha Purple Kush Auto, They look too small!!

I did the humidifier thing, and still no results. can I get a simple root stim at walmart or home depot etc, because im pressed on dow right now??

ZedsDedBaby said:

thats a seedling man, you definitely have a problem, try cutting a coke bottle to make a mini-humidity chamber, wait a few days to water but next water you might want to hit it with a root stim

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Did the dome. Can I get anything cheap from walmart, home depot, etc, for the root stim??????? thankx Zed!!!!

Root stim would kick her up a bit but ur sick PK seemed to be growing her second leaves slowly so she isn't helpless. U can get some green light root stimulator starter liquid mix which would help a bit and foilage feed her alongside a quick hit of water and root stim mix. Just make sure to not give her a lot so she doesn't shock. Just dont accidentally buy a root clone solution. Look up the green light one but home depot should have it.

Thanks Junx! Here's an update. This is the best I have felt since this grow has started!!! I am on day 7. My temp is around 78 to 79 F. Both 16 oz cups are feeling pretty light! I have not watered either one of them since Thursday night. I upped my airflow, and I am still using domes for humidity. Here are some pics. The one that I was spazzing out on Friday night, is now not looking so helpless Would you suggest I go get some of that green light root stimulator at home depot to perk her up even more? Do you think I should water them at some point today??? Thanks again PLAYA!!!!!!

Also, should I transplant plant#2 to its final home? I am using 3 gallon pots, for their final home. Like I said, it feels light, but damn round leaves have not fallen off yet??? Or should I wait until I see the roots of her at the bottom of my 16oz pot?? Thanks!!!!!

Hey man, with autos i've been advice to plant them directly to the final pot, because their roots grow very fast, i'm growing one right know and started with CANNA rhizotonic for the roots a week ago and she loves it, i started using canna veg nuts on week 2, here are some pics from a couple days ago.View attachment 2478826

don't worry about leaves falling off...you shouldn't have any bottom leaves fall off if you are keeping her healthy in veg. If you haven't watered in awhile then yes...water them. I would look for a small bottle of that root stimulator to soil feed the sick ones. And they aren't necessarily sick..I am not sure what all nutes are in the soil but you said you aren't feeding them anything but water and it looks like either you ended up getting some early stage nute burn or light burn a bit...I cant tell from the pictures but here is some good news...its been 3 days and they are all still green!!!!!!!! So that means they will survive as long as you keep a good eye on them. Also, like i said earlier, you should put them in their final pots whenever you want, but I would do it once they look a bit healthier or once the second leaves come in and look healthy. If you put one of them in the final pot and not the other two...there is a chance that that one will grow faster than the other two and you will end up with stunted plants. ORRRRR you could transplant all of them now and that would give them all more root development and even might help the sick ones out growing new roots and becoming more "established." Hmmm....now that I think about it I would do it now with all of them even with their slightly sickish look. But be careful when you do it and don't damage any roots and make sure you have clean washed sanitized hands before you handle them. Best way to handle transplanting in IMO is to wash your hands and then get them real dirty with the soil then you minimize the chance of infection on the gentle roots. Pick up the root stimulator mix and use it same day you transfer them. That will help also. Here is what I recommend you get also when you get some dow.

-2 T8 Soft white flourescent lights that are 4ft long or get 4 2 ft long ones. I say get T8 because T5 is more expensive but check out the lumens and how much K they put out. Each plant should have 7,000 lumen output for a normal grow speed. Anything less will make them grow slower. I have an auto under 3000 lumens right now and she is slow growing and it kind of forces her to not flower fast but to get short and bushy before she does. You want light spectrum of 6500 which is a cool blue / soft white light mixture. This is best for veg stage plants. Here is a good reference to read on the T8 -> http://www.lrc.rpi.edu/programs/NLPIP/lightingAnswers/t8/02-t8-light-output.asp

Walmart should have some cheap T8 lights (or home depot) that put out about 3200 lumens per bulb. Don't try to get extremely lower wattage because the lumen output will be crappy also..and to be honest you wont be using much energy with a 24/32 watt CFL. I got 18 watt T5 bulbs by accident and spent like 27$ for each of them. I didn't research enough on it when I was reading about T5 bulbs but I have managed to grow 3 NICE size plants under these two 2ft T5 lights. I also had to cut cords and ghetto rig them up because they didn't have plugins lol. I bought the lights at home depot haha and got home and was like "where the hell is the plugin" So I took some exension cords with grounds on them and self twisted the cords together to get it to work. I will post a picture of my babies in my veg closet just so you can see what I is possible to do JUST with low output T5 bulbs.

So to recap, Get 4 short 2ft ones if you have a small space to work with and that will be 3200 lumens each X 4 = 12800 lumens. That will be sufficient for 2 plants. Or even 3 but will slow the growth if you add a third plant because it is not 21000 lumens. Like I said for a good normal fast grow each plant should have 7000 lumens with a color output of 6500K (blue spectrum dominant). Just know that your plants are probably growing slower right now because they aren't getting the blue spectrum they need. They are under red HPS bulbs (which is best for flower).

1. Get the root stim
2. Transplant all plants into the 3 gals individually
3. Water with root stim mix then foilage spray bottle the leaves right after you transfer them.
4. Mow some lawns if its not winter where you are or do something for your parents or guardians or someone you know to make a quick 60 bucks to buy some veg lights and get them under those lights until flower.

5. Watch this motivating video about hydro grow --> HERE: http://www.420magazine.com/forums/420-grow-videos/75953-how-grow-green-mr-green-pts-1-9-a.html
6. Relax and just know they will pull out of their slow growing stage and sickness. I got 2 random plants under my HPS light a week or two ago and I will show you what the HPS is doing to them since they are getting more red than blue spectrum. You will see what happens to them and the difference (the sick look and stretching). Will post pics in about 10 minutes for ya.

Again, dont worry this is your first grow and we all end up making small mistakes but its a learning process and you cant be perfect the first time nobody is and if they say they were then they are liars and trying to 1up you for some idiotic reason or compensating for other reasons lol. BB with pics bro.

Ok so here is some pics to show ya.

The middle plant is White Domina Automatica. All three of these plants were started together (minus 3 days behind White Domina). The other two are regular plants in 3 gal pots. WHite Domina is in a 5 gal pot


This is white domina auto 3 wks slow growing under the T5 and she still has her round first leaves on her.


These are regular babies started about two weeks ago maybe under HPS lights....they are sickly looking and the are stretching.




Here is Purple Kush Auto Day 51. Sorry for the bad pic but the HPS light messes with my pictures so normally I take pictures when the light is out.

bawse103 said:

I am on day 4, and I am worried that my two plants are not growing properly. They are both really small I dont know if that is normal for this strain, or not. Like I told you before, I am using a grow tent from htg, with 250 hps at about 10" to 12" away from my plants. They are growing in 16 oz cups with FFOF. My light cycle is 18/6, and I am keeping the temps between (81 to 82) degrees F. I am not using any nutes, and I only water them when they look, and the soil feels super dry. On average I prob water one to two times during the 18 hrs, with 6 ph spring water. I have not measured how much water I give them, Sorry. any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks again!!!

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yo man mine are a similar size. im growing some NL autos and they've been in the pots for around a week now. even though we're not growing the same strain its good to have something to compare to! i keep getting worried that mine aren't growing quick enough to but i just need to remind myself to be patient! peace man and good luck with the grow!

Went to lowe's, Walmart, and Home depot, no luck with the lights. I I looked at a hydroponics store but they are WAY to taxed!!!!! I am limited to length to use light wise, each light cant be no more than 3 feet long. This is my grow tent.
http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-HTG-250w--Small-Grow-Tent-Kit.asp IT Measures 22" deep x 36" wide x 63" tall . I think I am going to be stuck with my 250 hps for this whole grow. I did get the stim I got superthrive. I want to transplant tonight, because both my plants are dry. How do I use the superthrive, on the roots of the sick looking one??? I dont want to overshock it. I want to focus the stim on just the roots, right? How much should I use For the PKA???? since you said autos are sensitive to nutes, I just want to play it safe. Do I water the rest of the soil, when going into the 3 gallon, because they are both LIGHT in the 16oz cups rn, and both have not been watered since thursday. Thanks Again as always Junx!!!!!! P.S. If I do transfer into 3 gallon pots, what light distance should I use with the 250 hps?? Should I just do the top of the hand trick? Thanks PIMP

Use 1/4th of a teaspoon per gallon. TEASPOON not tablespoon for the super thrive. U can mix the stim and thrive in he same water gal. It wont hurt. After you transplant you water them equivalent to 32oz of water since they were in 16oz cups. U wanna use double the water and make sure the water is all around the roots close to the plant. So mix ur fert then use it after. SuperThrive helps with stress on the plant so I'm glad u got it

8-9 inches away is a good distant also for the lights. That's how far mine are and they don't burn and mine is a 600watt hps mh system. I also keep a temp of 68-77 degrees in m closet

Your a FUCKING SAVIOR!!!!! Thanks JUNx!

Since I didn't have any luck with finding T5 lights at walmart, lowes, home depot that would work for me, or they were just too expensive at my local hydro store, could I get a MH with a fixture, and plugin for a reasonable price??? You said blue spectrum would be best right now, since I am in pre veg. I am on day 8. If I could find a decently priced MH, would it even be worth getting it this late in the game??? P.S. I know PKA are sensitive to nutes, but should I use anymore superthrive rn???? Or should I just water when they feel light, until my veg period is over, then go with my farm trio nutes when my flowering period hits?Also when my pots feel light, since you grew in 3 gallon pots, how much would you suggest I water them, and exactly where? What I mean by that is, around the roots, then go all the way around the pot???? Thanks as always JUNX for getting me this far. P.S.S If how much lumens for an MH would I need for my two plants? Dimensions of my grow tent again are

• Measures 22" deep x 36" wide x 63" tall Both my plants were transplanted last night into their 3 gallon pot homes. THANKS!!!!!! I AM STILL USING HUMIDITY DOMES AS WELL. PEACE OUT MY DUDE!!!! ​
  
  

as long as you have a ceramic socket you can use a mh bulb in a hps ballast fixture, and it has to be the same watts also. This is the one I use but my fixture is different: http://www.ebay.com/itm/iPower-600w-600-watt-HPS-MH-Grow-Light-Digital-Dimm-System-Indoor-Garden-Set-/150928769289?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222002&algo=SIC.FIT&ao=1&asc=11&meid=4902701086060099760&pid=100011&prg=1005&rk=4&sd=150671529144&

I have the medium box like fixture. But I kind of wish I woulda bought the winged fixture so I could have more of a wide grow area. Sme of my PK's bud is smaller on one side because lack of lighting.

I've heard you can go mH in a hps fixture but u can't put a hps in a mH fixture because it needs an igniter.

P.s. plants look better man. Keep that light as close as you can without burning so they don't stretch

Thanks Junx for showing me the way, with these things. Your the reason they are still breathing, thats for sure!!!!!!!! I can't keep the light around 8 or 9" inches from the plant rn, because their second set of leaves are starting to droop again. And its is not from watering them, because I have not watered them in almost two days. I think it might be some shock from the transplant into the 3 gallon pots Sunday night, and I used superthrive that night as well. But I only used a 1/4 of a teaspoon like you told me per gallon, and watered my plants with it.

Np man they will have a lil shock but as long as u were gentle on the transplant they will be fine. Lights won't make hem droop though, so it was probably a little shock. Invest in a ph soil reader for like 15 bucks and check ur ph lvl in ur soil. That can cause problems also. What kind of water do u use wi ur nutes?

I have a ph tester kit, and I test the water to 6.5 before watering, and I use spring water. I am not using nutes just yet. I used the superthrive one time when I transplanted them Sunday night, but that was the first, and last time I have ever used any nutes for them so far. I didn't think I had to use nutes this early in the game, because my soil is FFOF, and I thought that would be strong enough to use, since my plants are still young, I didn't want to nute burn them. I am on day 10 so, I thought I would wait closer to week 3 before using my Fox Farm Nutes and start off with my Big Bloom, then my Tiger Bloom when they start to flower, and incorporate Molasses with my watering schedule for my micro nutes, carbs, and taste of the bud, like you recommended. I am going to check my runoff from my soil next water, and see if my soil is fucked. I have not watered them since last Sunday night. I go by weight, and stick my finger about 1 or 2'' in the soil, and check for any dampness. I weighed my plant with the dry soil in it Sunday night before I watered them as well, to give me a good idea, of when to water again. What do you think of my game plan???? Thanks for touching base with me JUNX!!! YOUR THAT FUCKING DUDE!!!! P.S. The best I can do with my temp is, and has been between (78-79) F When the 250hps is on. Hudmidity is between (44-45) percent. Like I said I am growing only two plants rn. My plant#1 is lagging, so I used a old book to make it the same height as my better one, which is plant#2. I know you said distance from light should be around 8 or 9'' from my plants, but I am scared of leaf burn. I have them at 11.5'' rn from the light. P.S.S. By looking at my pics, do you think I should be using any superthrive, or my big bloom rn?