Fractus
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Pictures taken with a cellphone through a magnifying glass from today before I flushed
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How so? What makes you think dumping excessive water in and letting it drain out would do anything differently?
I have never heard of anyone doing this.I disagree. Salt is soluble in water, correct? Clean water rushes in from the bottom and the salt mixes with it and ionizes and all that shit. And then when I pick it up it all pours back out yellowish. Dissipates into a bathtub holding gallons and gallons and GALLONS of water, so that the salt concentration would be next to nothing still in the whole tub of water. And rinsing again and again, I know it works fine. You can find it in many other places on this site. A shower doesn't surround everything like a bath does. In showers, water takes the easiest route possible to get from where it entered the soil to where it gets out. I bet you miss places entirely, while I'm sure I sucked all the salts out of all the soil. Just another matter of opinion. Neither way is wrong I wouldn't think. I think variation in results based on using one flush method or the other would be minimal, more than likely invisible.
Sorry it doesn't work that way... soil acts as a retention center for water.... it holds it and sucks it up like a sponge. yes SOME EXCESS DRIPS out but ever hear of OVERWATERING? <<<<< Yes you can do that. This isn't a matter of opinion this is a MATTER OF FACT.I disagree. Salt is soluble in water, correct? Clean water rushes in from the bottom and the salt mixes with it and ionizes and all that shit. And then when I pick it up it all pours back out yellowish. Dissipates into a bathtub holding gallons and gallons and GALLONS of water, so that the salt concentration would be next to nothing still in the whole tub of water. And rinsing again and again, I know it works fine. You can find it in many other places on this site. A shower doesn't surround everything like a bath does. In showers, water takes the easiest route possible to get from where it entered the soil to where it gets out. I bet you miss places entirely, while I'm sure I sucked all the salts out of all the soil. Just another matter of opinion. Neither way is wrong I wouldn't think. I think variation in results based on using one flush method or the other would be minimal, more than likely invisible.
I appreciate help when it is helpful. But this just sounds like you're trying to show me that I'm retarded and because you have been growing longer that your way is 100% better than mine regardless of what I say. It's cool that you are eager to try and give me advice at all, but this isn't the way to get anyone to listen and understand. Prove your point logically and politely and I'll more than likely be right behind you.yes SOME EXCESS DRIPS out but ever hear of OVERWATERING? <<<<< Yes you can do that. This isn't a matter of opinion this is a MATTER OF FACT.
Not to mention you are allowing your plants soak in chlorinated water, that is not ph'ed, as I heard you mentioned.Ok, I guess when I posted this earlier it didn't post for some reason. Problem is it isn't straight facts that he's coming back with it is mere speculation. When you flush you let the runoff go to waste..... the way he is suggesting you let the plants bathe in the excess water. What is going to happen is the roots will wick up all that excess water and the plant will get a lil droopy and suffer from overwatering. It is fixable but again if you let your plants bathe in water for soil grows you are just asking for trouble.
-potlike
Yeah would be a lot to lose if you fuck her upDamn thats just one plants.
Kudos to you bro
This isn't my "theory" on flushing. I found it on THIS SITE and people with a lot more posts than most of you were backing it and saying it's fine! It was an educational post from experienced growers and people thanked him for the idea and people posted how well it worked. I can't find it now because it was an older thread, and I don't remember who wrote it. I don't really care if you don't believe me either, but I wouldn't have tried it if I didn't have some reason behind it. But seeing as how nobody here used reference to trying it themselves and having bad effects on their plant, I'm going to assume you shooting down this idea is just a noob theory as well. It worked for me. That's it..
Now, potlike- Listen closely. If water is draining out the bottom, then your soil is holding all the water it can hold. So if you dump 5 gallons of water through your one gallon pot to flush it, and 3 gallons runs back out, you soils is Soaked. Just as soaked as if you were to dunk the whole thing. Like you said, soil retains water, but it has a peak. Either way you choose to flush your soil is going to hit that peak of maximum water retention. Now if you're curious how this other flushing method makes sense, listen here:
Lets say I have salt in my dirst, at full concentration. Since it is water soluble it will mix with water (not stay with the soil, and split up into Na+ and Cl- ions(even if it isn't table salt, ionic compounds all work the same way). Now lets say my box filled up with 4 gallons of water when dunked. But the soil retains 2 gallons on its own. So the salt is now disolved into 4 gallons. I lift the box up and 2 gallons of SALT water drains out. That drainage water mixes with lets say 45-50 gallons (typical bathtub) clean water, so that salt is SO DISPERSED in tons of water it is invisible. Like I said before. So I use that ALMOST clean water and dunk again. Now there is 4 gallons of water in the box with HALF as much salt, all mixed up. I lift and drain. Now there is 1/4 of the salt in the box. Lets try again shall we? Dunk and drain again and now in my box mathematically I cleared 7/8 of all salt/chemical content. Whatever's left I expect her to use or to be rinsed out in later waterings. If you STILL have questions feel free to ask, but I'm telling you this works and I wasn't the one to come up with it.
I have fed my plant tap water since day 1, I have never PHed before, don't even have a PH tester of any sort. And I have never had a problem, and probably never will because my water may be chlorinated, but nothing like what you guys have in your imagination. I live in a small city with very good water treatment and you can't even taste anything in the water. I can't imagine there is enough chemicals in it to do anything (plants OR humans) any harm at all. I don't know much about water treatment standards but if it your tap water kills your plant then I would move.
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I don't really know lol. With mine, I realized height was an issue, so I cut the top right off with a clean cut and stopped her from growing up, now she grows out. Try asking one of these guys who had that problem before.
There is only like 10 active members out of 160,000 with more posts than I have, regardless though, post count has nothing to do with experience. I'm really curious what thread you read this in, so if you ever see it again, send me a link. Also, not minding the pH is bad... maybe even holding you back from producing more bud.This isn't my "theory" on flushing. I found it on THIS SITE and people with a lot more posts than most of you were backing it and saying it's fine! It was an educational post from experienced growers and people thanked him for the idea and people posted how well it worked. I can't find it now because it was an older thread, and I don't remember who wrote it. I don't really care if you don't believe me either, but I wouldn't have tried it if I didn't have some reason behind it. But seeing as how nobody here used reference to trying it themselves and having bad effects on their plant, I'm going to assume you shooting down this idea is just a noob theory as well. It worked for me. That's it..