Yeah, we've been through this on the free will thread. Since God is omniscient, he knows upon creating each individual whether they are going to heaven or hell. We can't buy our own ticket to hell since we really make no choices. I guess the question is, why would god create us that don't believe if he knew we'd end up receiving ETERNAL TORMENT. I would never choose to have a child if I knew that it would suffer eternally. That's just beyond evil...Lol, Vegas... that would be cool if denied access to heaven.
He created hell for the devil and his army. God wants you to be with him, but he can't let satans army (sinners) into heaven. Christians (not all, but I'm pretty sure a large majority of Christians) don't believe god sends you to hell, they believe by sinning you are buying your own ticket to hell.
Just a FYI (but non dickish), I don't follow their view of "hell". I'm just talking for there side, but let's continue this debate so I can hear you out,.
Hmm good point. That is fucked up. But I've always thought that even if some of his creations would go to heaven being punished eternally is just too much, lol. Fuck it would be too much to be in heaven eternally. Well that's why I don't think he would send us to hell. And if he does send me to hell then I wouldn't want to be with him anyways. << if I said that in church they would hang me, haha.
Its a win for logic there, Tyler just knows how to correctly understand and apply it...unlike most here.
I was well propagandized as a child by the Missouri Synod Lutherans, a Christian religion, and they preached eternal torment and suffering, not just rejection, if I lived the type of life I have lived.
In the Christian religion, which is what I assume this thread is referring to, hell isn't a place to party. It's a place of torment day and night for eternity. Now heaven is a place where god wipes away your tears and you get a new life were you can pick fruits off vines and live off the land in peace with the others. Sounds a little gay, but still....LOL I think heaven and hell is such an awesome concept. x) To be honest, I'd probably choose hell given the option. I don't think I'd like heaven. All the things I enjoy doing are a sin.
Sounds like hell. I mean hell is hell, but both are torture, at least in one you get to keep your dignity. x)
No offense to you,
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No offense to you,
But see man, that's why I don't go to church. They try getting you in with them by putting fear in your head. They create a false path that leads you astray from what we are meant to do. Even the bible warns of false teachers and churches that were to be built during our time.
All I know if I had a church I would help every single person to find their own path. I would never even speak of hell, at least not to strike fear into people. Instead of taking money, I would go walk everyone around the streets and help people in need right then and there. Like I wouldn't even touch the money, I would tell the people to give the money to the homeless right then and there. I would try to help people understand god out of love, not hate and fear.
Yeah I'm not saying it's gods fault.
