Busted 4 days after 420

Merciless58

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Firebrand, how much was ur electric bill?

Ive been reading a few pages of this thread before i decided to skip here. I do believe one of your friends ratted u out.
My thoughts and prayers bud, God knows I hate people who dont mind there business.

Oh, and if you was using compact floro for lights, it would take a whole shit load of it for a IR sensor to detect that.... Honestly, agencies dont even bother, unless they KNOW or been told that you have a decent size op going on. But like for example, 3 plants on a 400 watter and a real good carbon filter, its almost immpossible for IR to capture that, especially in a warm climate as now, since the cavaty of the house has been heated up due to the sun... they DO howerver pick up on numerous lights like 3 600watters, 0r 2 1000's .. you dig? house hold electronics, such as ac units, Plasmas, dryers.. etc pull alot more heat that a normal 400, at least my 60 inch plasma does, I can catch a f*kin tan with my tv ..lol anyway, as long as u dont use those ligghts at night, then IR cannot detect, and one other thing as an advise, try to always a central ac unit running while lights are on, it cools the inner cavaty of the house (structure) and inside, which minimizes heat signatures form HPS. And keep all ur doors open in the house, so that the heat, and ac can be distributed around the house.... Im sure u know this, and I really dont know, why my fonts just changed...lol but u can definitely rule out it wasnt IR for sure....
 

Twistyman

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It's criminal the way they treat "criminals" here, lol. If you guys weren't killing the baby seals I'd already be up there enjoying the Vancouver vibe and saying the word aboot and misspelling words like colour and labour.
Hey Ricky...It's like Sunnyvale here.....maybe we kill some seals...seals, tuna. or any endangered animal is not exclusively a Canadian thing, sadly.. ..as for spelling...
o'er rockets red glare.....Please we don't use our foibles in our national anthem
 

DesertSativa

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excuse me!! I said I'm not gonna force anything on him, if he shows no interest in it I'm not gonna force him to keep growing it. and I don't plan on living in america by the time I have a kid. I started smoking when I was thirteen, I'd be a hypocrite if I said he had to wait till he's older than that. and considering your last statement my kids gonna be 10x smarter than you. and you know what, tonight ain't the night to be insulting me, or my unconceived kid. so, you can burn n hell right next to loudblunts
Sorry man, but I have to agree, you are a fucking idiot. I can only imagine how white trash you are.
 

GrnMan

Well-Known Member
I just went to a GANG intervention seminar... "how to interact with gang members"..

anyway.. they defined a gang as

1. 3 or more people
2. engaging in antisocial behavior
3. harming other people

sounds like the government... lol
LMFAO! Very true..
 

firebrand18rjr

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my electric bill went up about 90 bucks using a 1000w mh and 400w mh then switchin to 1000w hps and 400w hps. def wasnt any IR technology . was a snitch . flat out snitch in the police report noted as CI-69. i used cfls for about 3 weeks till i hit em with the mh .
 

Merciless58

Well-Known Member
Firebrand... I think u should take a look at this... how coincidental... this happen just days before u got busted...
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Seattle DEA Targets Suppliers And Financiers of Bourgeoning Indoor Marijuana Grows[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]
Garden Supply Companies, Mortgage Broker Searched; Indictments Returned
[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]APR 23 -- (Seattle, WA ) – DEA Special Agent in Charge (SAC) Arnold R. Moorin and the United States Attorney for the Western District of Washington, Jeffrey Sullivan, announced that two garden supply companies and the office of a mortgage broker were searched by federal agents today in connection with “Operation Green Reaper,” a crackdown on suppliers and financiers of illegal indoor marijuana grows. A federal grand jury in Seattle has indicted the owners of GREENHOUSE GARDEN SUPPLY of Tukwila, Washington, and SCITEK GARDEN SUPPLY of Auburn, Washington, for Conspiracy to Manufacture Marijuana and Conspiracy to Commit Money Laundering. The offices of Jet City Mortgage of Kent, Washington, as well as the home of the mortgage company owners, were also searched today in connection with possible mortgage fraud related to numerous homes where marijuana grows have been discovered.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]“The cultivation of indoor grown marijuana poses a danger to everyone in our community,” said DEA Special Agent in Charge Arnold R. Moorin. “These grows use toxic fertilizers and pesticides, have jury-rigged electrical wiring, and leave behind mold and contamination. These homes are a magnet for other crime – in the last year grow houses have been the scene of robberies and murders. The DEA is committed to working with our state, local and federal law enforcement partners to ensure that the neighborhoods where our children play and where families invest their life savings are safe. We will continue to direct our efforts to attacking the infrastructure of these criminal enterprises, in an effort to provide healthier environments for all.”[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]According to documents unsealed today, the Drug Enforcement Administration and local law enforcement began investigating the garden supply shops in January, 2007. Using confidential informants and materials discovered at marijuana grows, investigators allege that GREENHOUSE GARDEN SUPPLY and its owner QUYEN THE NGUYEN, of Renton, Washington, provided crucial equipment, advice and trash disposal service to those setting up indoor marijuana grows. Financial records reveal that deposits to the company business account are more than twice the income reported to the Washington State Department of Revenue. Some eighty percent of the money deposited is in cash.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The investigation of SCITEK GARDEN SUPPLY and its owner THIET VAN TRAN, of Seattle, Washington, also began in January 2007. Investigators noted ads in Vietnamese newspapers showing marijuana leaf logos and pictures of specialized equipment. Surveillance of the business revealed bags filled with denuded marijuana stalks and potting soil. The business was connected to grows that totaled more than 14,700 plants. While the business’ reported income was very modest, over eighteen months between August 2006 and January 2008, the business took in more than $900,000 with 90% percent of the deposits in cash. The indictment alleges that more than $1.1 million in cash was laundered through SCITEK GARDEN SUPPLY and related bank accounts during this period. In addition, two rings of marijuana growers associated with SCITEK GARDEN SUPPLY were indicted by the grand jury.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]According to the search warrant affidavit filed in connection with Jet City Mortgage of Kent, Washington, investigators have determined that nineteen homes where marijuana grows were discovered were purchased using the services of Jet City Mortgage. A review of a sampling of the loans reveals that documents related to the purchasers’ income and employment were falsified. According to the affidavit, various small business owners were paid a fee of up to $600 to falsely verify employment. Jet City Mortgage and one of its owners, who was also a real estate agent, generated substantial fees and commissions by pushing the purchases through with falsified loan information. No criminal charges have been filed in connection with any of the mortgage transactions.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]“The scourge of marijuana grow houses that has gripped British Columbia is moving south and invading our neighborhoods,” said United States Attorney Jeffrey Sullivan. “By targeting the businesses that promote, supply and establish these grows, we hope to stop the organized criminal groups that destroy lives while making millions through drug trafficking.”[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]The indictments unsealed today charge these defendants with Conspiracy to Manufacture Marijuana and Conspiracy to Launder Money:[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]PHAT FUGU, LLC, a/k/a Greenhouse & Garden Supply, 4451 S 134th Pl, Tukwila
QUYEN THE NGUYEN, 43, Renton
SCITEK GARDEN SUPPLY, LLC, 1720 Pike St. NW, #4, Auburn
THIET VAN TRAN, a/k/a David Tran, 41, Sammamish
TRUONG QUANG LAM, a/k/a Tony Lam, 32, Auburn
ELLIS V. NGUYEN, 57, Lynnwood
TAM MINH DANG, 44, Kent
SON HOANG BUI, 40, Lynnwood
TRAN SO LUONG, 46, Lynnwood
BE TRAN NGUYEN, 67, Auburn
QUE THI DANG, 58, Auburn
SARINA THI TRIEU, 43, Puyallup
TUONG TRUNG DUONG, 48, Puyallup
DIEP DAC MACH, 44, Renton
VAN THI TRIEU, 35, Puyallup
HENRY PHUNG, 37, Renton[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]Conspiracy to Manufacture Marijuana is punishable by a mandatory minimum ten years and up to life in prison and a $4 million fine. Conspiracy to Commit Money Laundering is punishable by up to twenty years in prison.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-1]This was an Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) investigation, providing supplemental federal funding to the federal and state agencies involved. The case is being investigated by the Drug Enforcement Administration, the South Snohomish County Narcotics Task Force (SSCNTF includes officers from Lynnwood Police, Edmonds Police, and Mountlake Terrace Police.), the Valley Narcotics Enforcement Task Force (VNET includes officers from the Kent, Renton, Auburn, and Tukwila Police Departments), the Seattle Police Department, Washington State Patrol, Port of Seattle Police, King County Sheriff’s Office, the Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI), and the Washington State Department of Financial Institutions (DFI). [/SIZE][/FONT]
 

Merciless58

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If u shopped there before, maybe they already had an eye for u, and it sealed the deal when someone told on u... I fukin hate shit like this....
 

WEEDS

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You should come to British Columbia where 27 plants is considered a months worth of "personal supply".
 

firebrand18rjr

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definitely thinking about moving to canada once my felonys are expunged. and nah i never bought supplies from those guys. mostly ebay and the local home depot
 

ceestyle

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that's funny ... some guy from the UK was just ranting about all the vietnamese grow houses. every single one of those names is vietnamese. sounds like a single ring that got taken down ...
 

royalnobody

Active Member
Firebrand, how much was ur electric bill?

Ive been reading a few pages of this thread before i decided to skip here. I do believe one of your friends ratted u out.
My thoughts and prayers bud, God knows I hate people who dont mind there business.

Oh, and if you was using compact floro for lights, it would take a whole shit load of it for a IR sensor to detect that.... Honestly, agencies dont even bother, unless they KNOW or been told that you have a decent size op going on. But like for example, 3 plants on a 400 watter and a real good carbon filter, its almost immpossible for IR to capture that, especially in a warm climate as now, since the cavaty of the house has been heated up due to the sun... they DO howerver pick up on numerous lights like 3 600watters, 0r 2 1000's .. you dig? house hold electronics, such as ac units, Plasmas, dryers.. etc pull alot more heat that a normal 400, at least my 60 inch plasma does, I can catch a f*kin tan with my tv ..lol anyway, as long as u dont use those ligghts at night, then IR cannot detect, and one other thing as an advise, try to always a central ac unit running while lights are on, it cools the inner cavaty of the house (structure) and inside, which minimizes heat signatures form HPS. And keep all ur doors open in the house, so that the heat, and ac can be distributed around the house.... Im sure u know this, and I really dont know, why my fonts just changed...lol but u can definitely rule out it wasnt IR for sure....
good advice, thank you very much.
 

Twistyman

Well-Known Member
You should come to British Columbia where 27 plants is considered a months worth of "personal supply".
O Canada :) What I find stupid is to go to some newly opened hydro supply store, that's a dead giveaway. Go to an established nursery or some other florist, not to the nice hippies who opened that quaint little store down the back alley...
Same thing with pipes...don't go to the head shop, only one sort of person goes to a head shop.......DUH....A HEAD!! Go to the local jamaican or some other pot smoking cultural area, and go into any corner store....and there be pipes...pipes all sizes and shapes and usually cheaper than the "speciality "
shops
 

kochab

New Member
O Canada :) What I find stupid is to go to some newly opened hydro supply store, that's a dead giveaway. Go to an established nursery or some other florist, not to the nice hippies who opened that quaint little store down the back alley...
Same thing with pipes...don't go to the head shop, only one sort of person goes to a head shop.......DUH....A HEAD!! Go to the local jamaican or some other pot smoking cultural area, and go into any corner store....and there be pipes...pipes all sizes and shapes and usually cheaper than the "speciality "
shops

i live in a small north carolina town. Our head shop is LITERALLY right across the street from the police station. Our courthouse is a block away. Just know about your rights and youll never be fucked with past that.
hell i carry a pretty ass bowl with me everywhere, I always keep it clean (cause resiny glass taste like shit to me) and i keep some salvia with me. Gives me excuse for the bowl and i can eat whatever stash i have on me.

The cops in my town cringe for the day weeds legalized.:twisted: they know my county was put on the map for moonshine and marijuana. Seriously, its in the museum here in town:mrgreen:
 

firebrand18rjr

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hell i carry a pretty ass bowl with me everywhere, I always keep it clean (cause resiny glass taste like shit to me) and i keep some salvia with me. Gives me excuse for the bowl and i can eat whatever stash i have on me.
i never thought of havin a back up plan like that . just got a help me out card in the mail today thanks bro you know who you are!
 

BongJuice

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Sorry to here about your dilemma. I've tried to read all 400 some posts to get a general idea of what's has happened. But I've only read about 50.
I was wondering what were you going to with 27 plants anyways? That's alot of weed.
If you got at least 2 oz. per plant, at the most you would have approx. 3-4 lbs. of weed.
Dude 3-4 lbs. of weed is alot for one person to smoke. It would take me about 18 months to 2 years to smoke that myself, and that's if I smoked it heavily everyday.
Basically my point is, you had to of told some people about your operation hopefully to gain some new clients for profit, to supplement the cost of your grow room.
All it takes is telling one wrong person. One wrong person tells 1, then it goes to 2, then 4, then 8, and so on.
I feel really bad for you dude, it's wrong for cops to be on the look out for growers who strictly grow it for medicinal purposes or for weekend use.
From my perspective it hardly sounds like that was the situation that you were doing.
 

firebrand18rjr

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well first off i was only using 2gal buckets my whole grow. i lolipopped em and only had a fatt cola on each one. and a couple little aerogarden plants for my brothers bday. if i was gonna sell any of it it would be to 1 guy who for sure didnt snitch me out. he said hed buy everything if it turned out good. i hardly doubt i would have even got close to a lb. heres a vid i took 2 weeks before shit hit the fan

Video of almost done1 - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
 

jimmyspaz

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Yeah that looks perfectly reasonable for a personal grow. It isn't the number of plants as much as the size. I only get 1/4 lb. off 12 plants(SOG) but I get that every 2 weeks, and none is for sale.
 

firebrand18rjr

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dizam man . nonstop supply . i wish i woulda cut em on 420. and put all the shelves back up, cleaned out my safes and put a picture that little kid flipping the bird in it. and got rid of everything to my buddys house for safe keeping. the look on the cops faces woulda been priceless when they open the safes.
 
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