California tax refunds

diemdepyro

Well-Known Member
There was a barter movement during the Carter administration. Small towns issued their own script. Businesses traded services. The IRS stopped it dead in its tracks. Lets face it governments suck.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
We should go back to bartering, I'll do this job for you in exchange you do that job for me" cut big government right out of it. Screw them, if the people can figure out how to make do with less, then big gov can figure it out too.
 

medicineman

New Member
We should go back to bartering, I'll do this job for you in exchange you do that job for me" cut big government right out of it. Screw them, if the people can figure out how to make do with less, then big gov can figure it out too.
I agree we need to trim government, but the barter system is too antiquated to work in this fast paced society. It may work to some extent in a small town atmosphere, but wouldn't have a chance in a city. Basically, there are just too many people for it to work. I believe it won't be long before we have a cashless society, the proverbial mark of the beast. A chip installed somewhere in your body where all your transactions are stored on a giant computer from your paycheck to your spending, and you never have to do anything but wave your hand under a tracking machine. Big brother come alive.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
I agree we need to trim government, but the barter system is too antiquated to work in this fast paced society. It may work to some extent in a small town atmosphere, but wouldn't have a chance in a city. Basically, there are just too many people for it to work. I believe it won't be long before we have a cashless society, the proverbial mark of the beast. A chip installed somewhere in your body where all your transactions are stored on a giant computer from your paycheck to your spending, and you never have to do anything but wave your hand under a tracking machine. Big brother come alive.
you'd be surprised at what you can buy with weed. :blsmoke:
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
They are not installing anything in me. My family members either. They can bite me, we have allergies to nickel of all things, they'll have to chase me down and tackle me and I'm still going to fight them.

and yes FDD, you can buy pretty much anything with pot if you know the right people and if you have enough pot...... :wink:

I really need to get my grow together this year, I might need it to trade for stuff I need.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
They are not installing anything in me. My family members either. They can bite me, we have allergies to nickel of all things, they'll have to chase me down and tackle me and I'm still going to fight them.

and yes FDD, you can buy pretty much anything with pot if you know the right people and if you have enough pot...... :wink:

I really need to get my grow together this year, I might need it to trade for stuff I need.
you can get stuff with your "skills" as well. :hump:
 

medicineman

New Member
you'd be surprised at what you can buy with weed. :blsmoke:
That's supposing everyone smokes the stuff. I think you'd be surprised to know that Pot smokers are a small minority in the general population. when one hangs out on a pot site, one may tend to forget about all the "Straight" people. Now if you are in a "pot" community like a commune, maybe so, but again, in a pot community, most smokers would also be growers, no? Also, in most places outside of CA., pot is still illegal and trading pot for commerce would definently land your butt in jail. I hate to burst your bubble, but facts is facts.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
That's supposing everyone smokes the stuff. I think you'd be surprised to know that Pot smokers are a small minority in the general population. when one hangs out on a pot site, one may tend to forget about all the "Straight" people. Now if you are in a "pot" community like a commune, maybe so, but again, in a pot community, most smokers would also be growers, no? Also, in most places outside of CA., pot is still illegal and trading pot for commerce would definently land your butt in jail. I hate to burst your bubble, but facts is facts.

but people who smoke pot have other things. i trade pot for a truck or two. i have an extra truck. i need a driveway poured. driveway dude doesn't smoke pot but he needs a new truck. how'd that just work? :)

"commerce"? it's anarchy, remember?
 

diemdepyro

Well-Known Member
The only things my skill could get me in civilian land is a poster with my name and a reward on it. Those skill will be used if the government fails. I will make do with what I have.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
the last 10 years i worked at a "job" were a waste of my life. BS days where i stood with my thumb in my ass. getting paid to "find something to do". yeah, that's pretty productive. what is that all really about? if people put the BS aside and actually worked together we'd be 10 times more advanced as a society. you can't even get a raise at half the places you work without blowing the boss. :roll:

it's all bullsh*t.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Isn't that what most Americans have to look forward to? I mean, if you can find a way around that scenario, Kudos, but most people need a job.
"need a job" to survive in today's starbucks society? it used to be all people needed was an acre of land to work. :-P:leaf:

and maybe an ox. :hump:
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
i just watched fight club, .................... hehehhehehehehe


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"you're NOT your fuckin' khaki's."

don't shower and wear the same jeans for a week. it's liberating. :hump:
 

medicineman

New Member
the last 10 years i worked at a "job" were a waste of my life. BS days where i stood with my thumb in my ass. getting paid to "find something to do". yeah, that's pretty productive. what is that all really about? if people put the BS aside and actually worked together we'd be 10 times more advanced as a society. you can't even get a raise at half the places you work without blowing the boss. :roll:

it's all bullsh*t.
I have no Idea what kind of a job you had. Every job I ever had, I produced an end product. Linesman, fixed the electric grid, Carpenter, built houses. Mechanic, fixed cars, truck driver, delivered the goods. Business owner, took care of business and provided goods and services. Never had to blow the "Boss". I actually worked, didn't have to stand around looking for work, so basically, I don't know what kind of a job you had, sounds boring as hell. I always worked outside, well except the mechanic part, but I was never boxed in to some cubicle in an office. I'd of probably killed someone if I was forced to do that crap.
 

ViRedd

New Member
As I've often said in this forum ... the only truly free market left is the underground economy. This was true in communist Romania and its reality here as well.

On a revolution by force ... the only revolution we need is a revolution by pen and ink, or lack thereof. Stop signing your tax forms and refuse to send them in. If its good enough for Obama's new Secretary of the Treasury (the head of the IRS), then its good enough for the common man.

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
As I've often said in this forum ... the only truly free market left is the underground economy. This was true in communist Romania and its reality here as well.

On a revolution by force ... the only revolution we need is a revolution by pen and ink, or lack thereof. Stop signing your tax forms and refuse to send them in. If its good enough for Obama's new Secretary of the Treasury (the head of the IRS), then its good enough for the common man.

Vi
I've been telling you this for nigh on to 3 years now. Stop paying your taxes. Oh that's right, you already tried that and got busted,~LOL~. How'd that feel?
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
I have no Idea what kind of a job you had. Every job I ever had, I produced an end product. Linesman, fixed the electric grid, Carpenter, built houses. Mechanic, fixed cars, truck driver, delivered the goods. Business owner, took care of business and provided goods and services. Never had to blow the "Boss". I actually worked, didn't have to stand around looking for work, so basically, I don't know what kind of a job you had, sounds boring as hell. I always worked outside, well except the mechanic part, but I was never boxed in to some cubicle in an office. I'd of probably killed someone if I was forced to do that crap.
journeyman level:
press brake operator, machinist, welder, line technician, .................
 
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